Am I Right To Start Flushing Now?

althor said:

A three month cure solves all problems, unless it is stored improperly.

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BULLSHIT, you can't put a turd in the jar and open it 3 months later to a prize

If you could not smoke the shit before it went in, you can't smoke it after a 3 month cure.

I smoke my green dope to test the high. You just rule out the chlorophyll taste.

yes but what you use as a baseline at sea level can not be the same base line for high altitude. No way possible.

So what you are saying only applies to you at sea level. Your plant intake is much different for both at two different levels.
That is what i am saying. unless you have the knowledge of both growing levels and much more others how your plant lives,
its hard to be direct to someone who has to care.

Did i explain that right. When you have a baseline to go off of then you adjust to your plants needs depending on levels. High altitude plants do not grow as big but produce more trichomes and the lisdt goes on. What one plant needs at sea level another does not need as much. Like taking away vit B and adding carbs to stop stretching at certain points.

I am not and will never say someones way is wrong. I will never say mine is better then yours... we all have our ways of growing and testing different ways to get the best out of her.

Because someone flushes or not does not make one bud better then another. Seems like there are a lot of hurt feelings here.

dbdweller said:

Should you flush or not?

Some of many reasons why<
First and foremost NO CHEMICALS. When you flush you do so many things.
1. You take away the build up that has accumulated in the roots.
2. The plant starts to take in what chemicals are still residing in the roots and stalk,branches and leaves.
3. You are not smoking chemicals or ingesting them. Nice clean white ash to me is the tell tale sign. Better for your lungs.
4. Some patients have reactions to edibles that still have high traces of some chemicals. This reacts to medication they are already on.

I mean the list goes on and it is always a growers preference. It saves you some money in food if your doing large grows and if you think about it. Flushing is always a good answer to a lot of plant issues right. To much nuts flush well or what ever.

To me the MAIN REASON IS THE TASTE. I want to taste the true plant. but once again this is one stoners opinion only. Comes down to it chemicals or no chemicals i am going to burn it lol

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bull shit. Lol white ash. Lmfao at this post

you do not think the ash is one of your tell tale signs of the plants life. lol what you did is in the ash. Were else would it go ? up in smoke Everything you did is in there. Every chemical/food/sup everything. thats a fact because ash has been tested lots of time over the years. Now if you flush you lessen the footprint of course. How can you not. but its like your hair... its there

and don't come in hating it does not matter to me weather you think its true or not. Just telling it like it is to me and a lot of other people who have been at it a long time. But thats another thread

I do not say someone is bull shit unless i know FOR SURE AND WITHOUT A DOUBT and since i am not GOD i do not know everything

So i am not hating just would like to see the thread get back on course.

My fucked up nutes plants still made white ash. Bad wet bud will burn black. Popping or sizzling is bugs or crap u put on plants. I know soil went to school on soil- crop ag. So when I read people's bs on flushing. I get upset. Never stop using nutes when u have weeks of buding still.

dbdweller said:

you do not think the ash is one of your tell tale signs of the plants life. lol what you did is in the ash. Were else would it go ? up in smoke Everything you did is in there. Every chemical/food/sup everything. thats a fact because ash has been tested lots of time over the years. Now if you flush you lessen the footprint of course. How can you not. but its like your hair... its there

and don't come in hating it does not matter to me weather you think its true or not. Just telling it like it is to me and a lot of other people who have been at it a long time. But thats another thread

I do not say someone is bull shit unless i know FOR SURE AND WITHOUT A DOUBT and since i am not GOD i do not know everything

So i am not hating just would like to see the thread get back on course.

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see, I have tried to explain to you how nutrients work, you guys refuse to understand basic plant botany. How can you claim facts of obvious nonsense that doesn't make sense? Time for another picture

Lets get back to the topic which was do i flush. Which there is plenty of argument on each side.

Some say that flushing is a waste of time and a loss to bud growth at the end( please keep in mind there are not a lot of strains still working within the last week... but yes there are some.. sour diesel/critical hog and such)

Some say that flushing does not take away any chemicals and no one can tell the difference.

Some say you need to flush to clean here out (she does breath out under the leaf) and that it takes what it needs from the soil, stalk, branches and leaves to maintain till harvest just fine for soil.

I do know that it gets three growth spurts during flower. That during each time i need to feed her a little more of what she needs ( and yes i do not follow the chart to the letter. Some strains need more of this then that one and such.
But there is a set of laws i have to follow to get her to her max. what she needs during all phases of growth. you can bend it some but it is what it is.

Please keep in mind the strains that do not grow till the very end.. if you run a big operation were its thousands of dollars a month for food and sup, then flushing those plants saves big money.

So i think till the earth stops turning you will always have this discussion.

Lysergicpt said:

off course plant dont know the difference , and that means ? i'm talking about the final result to your taste .. i dont really know who to respond to that :X thats just a silly observation . With today's technology , i can give you a Stawberry juice that has no strawberry in it .. soo are you trying to say if you dont know the diference theres is no diference ?

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Are you seriously comparing strawberries grown with synthetics to artificial strawberry flavoring? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously? What is the vitamin C content of your "high quality" strawberries vs the "chemical" ones?

Lysergicpt said:

another example a carrot takes 2 to 3 months to be ready for harvest , with chemical fedding to carrots you can grow a carrot in 1 month lets say , but the final results ? ohh my friend , its huge , some people dont even know what is to eat quality vegetables.

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You tell us what the final results are. Show us the vitamin A content of the "quality" carrots you're describing in comparison to the "chemical" grown ones? You probably don't even know.

dbdweller said:

NO WAY a fucking medical patient should know. I know that it is a cash crop for some but since my friend has been hospitalized due to that.. the cause was a reaction to the hash chemicals that were still in the plant// she smokes and does edibles. Now weather ity was very hash pesticides or what we can not say because she did not grow that then.

There is nothing you can say about that. That is a fact and since then she grows her own to make sure its clean. So its still a preference but try telling her that ./..she can show you big doctor bills for it.

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sounds like it's in her head..there are people like that imho.

blimey said:

I get called a troll because I disagree.
My argument has been the same since post 15 and nobody has shown that feeding until harvest increases yield or potency.
You guys are forum warriors, because I disagree with a well known forum poster that you like you tell me stfu and leave, form your own thoughts.

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is this about flushing? or feeding?

dbdweller said:

Heres a question then

If you look at companies charts who supply food like bonticare, canna and such. There pre harvest is ALWAYS nothing but water. You may find something like bonticare has clearx for the last 4-5 days.

If it was not suppose to happen why would they print it.

Are they wrong?

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so what you;re saying is, you rely on a "for profit" company who is dependent on your dollars to exist and you're gonna take their word for it?

blimey said:

Canna's schedule has you cut out base nutes and increase cannazym which is their cheapest additive and is used to break down dead roots to help condition the medium for the next grow since they recommend reusing it.
It's saving money doing it this way, I really don't think they are just out to propagate a "myth" for no reason.
Regardless, dead horse is dead.

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no.they hook is the many bottles.they don't want you to take your head out of the fans as soon as you look up and take a breath, they risk losing you to another nute company.

chuck estevez said:

BULLSHIT, you can't put a turd in the jar and open it 3 months later to a prize

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i have a jar of overnuted from my second grow about 3 years ago.it still hasn't cured.so that theory is void.

my citation: the jar that i keep in the pantry to remind myself not over do nutes.

nothing worse than to lose your whole harvest week 8.

reapersfamiliar said:

is this about flushing? or feeding?

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He doesn't know anymore.

chuck estevez said:

BULLSHIT, you can't put a turd in the jar and open it 3 months later to a prize

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I guess you grow turds. I grow buds.


Btw, anyone that is THIS concerned about how other people grow their plants, might need to start worrying.
Shocked the 3-4 people in this thread who are so stuck on flushing. What is the point of being so overwhelming concerned about what other people do?

Is it some kind of freaky thing where you have to be right and cannot stop until you somehow convince the world that you are right?

Went to some other sites to see if there are any threads so combative over flushing, and nope, seems like Rollitup is the only place that has the 4 plant nazis running around telling everyone else how they have to grow... Other places are like "man do what you want, its a preference".

althor said:

I guess you grow turds. I grow buds.


Btw, anyone that is THIS concerned about how other people grow their plants, might need to start worrying.
Shocked the 3-4 people in this thread who are so stuck on flushing. What is the point of being so overwhelming concerned about what other people do?

Is it some kind of freaky thing where you have to be right and cannot stop until you somehow convince the world that you are right?

Went to some other sites to see if there are any threads so combative over flushing, and nope, seems like Rollitup is the only place that has the 4 plant nazis running around telling everyone else how they have to grow... Other places are like "man do what you want, its a preference".

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quality post there hippocat,lmfao

if it isn't good when it goes in the jar, it won't be good coming out. Make all the bullshit claims you want, flush your little butthurt heart out.
there is no denying that.

Hah, I have long since started laughing at the idiots in this thread so over the top obssessed about how others grow.
You guys are out of your minds, and I am sure MUCH MUCH different irl when someone is looking you in the face.

this is great, this douchebag pops his head in and out of the thread making stupid and hypocritical comments. then says this on pg 25

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anyone that is THIS concerned about how other people grow their plants, might need to start worrying.


What a fucking total hippocat loser