Adding Molasses while Flushing

Rumple

Rumple

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We flush our White Widow grow for about ten days before harvest (or it really does taste like crack if we don't). Lots of my friends have told me to add molasses to the pure water but none of them can agree on how much to add for best results. I have not tried molasses myself. We have tried lots of other stuff in the past like changing feeding schedules/concentrations, store bought additives, but pure water flushing has gave the best results.


We harvest every 80 days and are coming up on another harvest in two weeks. With the frequency of our harvests and consistency of the strain, it is pretty easy for us to tell what works and what is a stoner thought.

My question is how much molasses do I add to the water? And how does it change the end product?

Thank you,
 
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Smokenpassout

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Rumple said:
We flush our White Widow grow for about ten days before harvest (or it really does taste like crack if we don't). Lots of my friends have told me to add molasses to the pure water but none of them can agree on how much to add for best results. I have not tried molasses myself. We have tried lots of other stuff in the past like changing feeding schedules/concentrations, store bought additives, but pure water flushing has gave the best results.


We harvest every 80 days and are coming up on another harvest in two weeks. With the frequency of our harvests and consistency of the strain, it is pretty easy for us to tell what works and what is a stoner thought.

My question is how much molasses do I add to the water? And how does it change the end product?

Thank you,
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1tbsp per gallon of water.
 
mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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I suggest 1 Tablespoon / Gallon of unsulphered blackstrap molasses, dissolved into a small cup of warm water before entering your water reservoir :) molasses has an NPK of 3-1-5 (plz correct me if I'm wrong) and will often impart a sweet taste as it is a carbohydrate/ sugar. You may use it throughout your entire flower cycle, as your plants see fit! GL!
 
Figong

Figong

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chuck estevez said:
molasses is for feeding microbes, that's it
flushing is for toilets,that's it
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You don't flush systemics should you absolutely need them to save a crop, or you haven't had to yet? That's one time I'd really justify a flush, so yes.. agreed for all but a potential systemic situation.
 
Rumple

Rumple

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I still have two weeks. Will the stuff I buy at the healthfood store work? Or do I need to get it from the hydro store?
 
mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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I get mine at Stop&Shop for like 4 bucks; just make sure it's unsulphered. Grandma's or that Blackstrap shit (the blackstrap is more nutrient dense)
 
Rancho Cucamonga

Rancho Cucamonga

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What's up Rumple?

You have your supposed harvest and cure pics linked, I've seen you and your name and your pics and you giving advice on many grow sites and you are asking random members here how much molasses you should use and what kind? Are those your pics linked or someone else's? If that is your own grown bud in all those pics you are obviously experienced and would not need to ask such questions. I'm not saying experienced growers do not need to ask questions sometimes, but a simple one like what kind of molasses to buy?

So I ask again, what's up Rumple?

If you are legit please post some new harvest pics, I've seen these floating around online for years.

To answer your question you should never exceed 1 TBSP per gallon, but I'm not sure why anyone would want to flush or end a harvest with watering with molasses. I begin molasses in early flower and end it 10-14 days before harvest as it doesn't do much good beyond that point. I do give a stronger dose of humic acid during my initial flush(fulvic if I used hydro) but only straight water after until cut.
 
Rumple

Rumple

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Rancho Cucamonga said:
What's up Rumple?

You have your supposed harvest and cure pics linked, I've seen you and your name and your pics and you giving advice on many grow sites and you are asking random members here how much molasses you should use and what kind? Are those your pics linked or someone else's? If that is your own grown bud in all those pics you are obviously experienced and would not need to ask such questions. I'm not saying experienced growers do not need to ask questions sometimes, but a simple one like what kind of molasses to buy?

So I ask again, what's up Rumple?

If you are legit please post some new harvest pics, I've seen these floating around online for years.

To answer your question you should never exceed 1 TBSP per gallon, but I'm not sure why anyone would want to flush or end a harvest with watering with molasses. I begin molasses in early flower and end it 10-14 days before harvest as it doesn't do much good beyond that point. I do give a stronger dose of humic acid during my initial flush(fulvic if I used hydro) but only straight water after until cut.
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All pretty good points. Most my harvest look the same, so I don't want to keep posting picts unless I have something going on (like testing a new light or trying a new strain).
I don't know everything, so I can't think of a better place to get a lots of good advice like the forums. I do have a lot of friends (in real life) that grow bud now. We all like to trade and compare the fruits of our labor. So a friend of mine came over with some bud that he harvested from my White Widow clone. My wife loved the flavor and asked how he go it to taste different. He said he used molasses during flush. I know he uses the Lucas formula as I do (gave that to him as well), so I know his grow operation is not a lot different from mine.

Why did I ask here? As you can see, we have a lot of different views on how to use molasses. Other folks I know use it throughout the flowering cycle, some flush with it others don't. I wanted more opinions. Nothing wrong with that. :-P

I have never used molasses and am not too proud to ask other growers for advice.

Some pictures. One for you (single plant 17 days before harvest) and others from my last harvest (link):




 

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Rumple

Rumple

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I will take more pictures as it gets a bit closer to harvest (lot fatter buds). I will try adding a small amoount of Blackstrap molasses to my pure water the last ten days. My wife will know if it worked.
 
Rancho Cucamonga

Rancho Cucamonga

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Rumple said:
All pretty good points. Most my harvest look the same, so I don't want to keep posting picts unless I have something going on (like testing a new light or trying a new strain).
I don't know everything, so I can't think of a better place to get a lots of good advice like the forums. I do have a lot of friends (in real life) that grow bud now. We all like to trade and compare the fruits of our labor. So a friend of mine came over with some bud that he harvested from my White Widow clone. My wife loved the flavor and asked how he go it to taste different. He said he used molasses during flush. I know he uses the Lucas formula as I do (gave that to him as well), so I know his grow operation is not a lot different from mine.

Why did I ask here? As you can see, we have a lot of different views on how to use molasses. Other folks I know use it throughout the flowering cycle, some flush with it others don't. I wanted more opinions. Nothing wrong with that. :-P

I have never used molasses and am not too proud to ask other growers for advice.

Some pictures. One for you (single plant 17 days before harvest) and others from my last harvest (link):




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Thanks for the one new pic. You had me worried as I just couldn't get over the molasses question, I thought someone had taken over your account or just started an account with your signature name and pics.

I could go the conspiracy theorist route and scream "Photoshopped!" but you replied like a professional so now I have to assume it's actually you. Sorry to call you out but I had no choice.

Unfortunately now in my circle I'm the vet, scary. So I do more passing on than receiving. I beleive you are DWC so I shouldn't even be giving advice on molasses as I have no experience with DWC but plan to experiment when we build our new rooms.

Any advice on DWC would be appreciated, inbox me anytime.
 
B.B.V.C.

B.B.V.C.

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Hey Rumple Ive seen your harvest pics and I follow your paper bag curing method, tons of great info from you. so thanks a lot for that. Here is the info you are looking for and although he mentions adding until it is saturated almost everywhere I've read agrees on 1.

P.S. this is from the Grow Bible, or hightimes website. Also make sure to report back and let us know if you think it made a difference. I think it will mean more coming from someone who has grown the same strain using the same methods for a long time

We did an experiment about 10 years ago and found that buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering. The sugar could also be enhanced with other flavors, but the flavors don't always come through as a notable taste when the weed is smoked.

Determining the dose of sugar is very easy: Add enough to a container of room-temperature water so that the solution is saturated. This will be about one tablespoon per quart of water. Remember, roots can only absorb so much sugar. Over-applying sugar won't make buds swell any more, and it'll also attract ants and other curious critters. This is why some growers apply only one tablespoon per gallon of water. If plants take a lot of water because they're in a windy location outdoors, cut the dosage by as much as 90%. As you can see, you'll need to play with the dosage a little, depending upon the growing situation of each plant.

Edit: just remembered you use DWC, does your friend who adds molasses use hydro or soil? a lot of people complain about molasses clogging up hydro systems and a lot of people also agree that the main purpose of it is to feed microbes in soil
 
Rumple

Rumple

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Rancho Cucamonga said:
Thanks for the one new pic. You had me worried as I just couldn't get over the molasses question, I thought someone had taken over your account or just started an account with your signature name and pics.

I could go the conspiracy theorist route and scream "Photoshopped!" but you replied like a professional so now I have to assume it's actually you. Sorry to call you out but I had no choice.

Unfortunately now in my circle I'm the vet, scary. So I do more passing on than receiving. I beleive you are DWC so I shouldn't even be giving advice on molasses as I have no experience with DWC but plan to experiment when we build our new rooms.

Any advice on DWC would be appreciated, inbox me anytime.
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I would have painted in giant buds if I used Photoshop.

I love talking about DWC, but I mainly do it on other forums. Google or Bing bubble bucket and you will find me. Pretty sure I still show up first in both.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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B.B.V.C. said:
Hey Rumple Ive seen your harvest pics and I follow your paper bag curing method, tons of great info from you. so thanks a lot for that. Here is the info you are looking for and although he mentions adding until it is saturated almost everywhere I've read agrees on 1.

P.S. this is from the Grow Bible, or hightimes website. Also make sure to report back and let us know if you think it made a difference. I think it will mean more coming from someone who has grown the same strain using the same methods for a long time

We did an experiment about 10 years ago and found that buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering. The sugar could also be enhanced with other flavors, but the flavors don't always come through as a notable taste when the weed is smoked.

Determining the dose of sugar is very easy: Add enough to a container of room-temperature water so that the solution is saturated. This will be about one tablespoon per quart of water. Remember, roots can only absorb so much sugar. Over-applying sugar won't make buds swell any more, and it'll also attract ants and other curious critters. This is why some growers apply only one tablespoon per gallon of water. If plants take a lot of water because they're in a windy location outdoors, cut the dosage by as much as 90%. As you can see, you'll need to play with the dosage a little, depending upon the growing situation of each plant.

Edit: just remembered you use DWC, does your friend who adds molasses use hydro or soil? a lot of people complain about molasses clogging up hydro systems and a lot of people also agree that the main purpose of it is to feed microbes in soil
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Plants don't use sugar. Microbes do though. But please tell us how it works out for you,lol

read this
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/642019-molasses.html
 
Figong

Figong

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chuck estevez said:
Plants don't use sugar. Microbes do though. But please tell us how it works out for you,lol

read this
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/642019-molasses.html
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Correct on what was said above, and that said.. there's more than the last 10 days that are 'optimal' for molasses use, assuming you're only trying to hit the critical times and not introduce a very small amount with every feeding of nutes, watering, or both.
 
Rumple

Rumple

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B.B.V.C. said:
Hey Rumple Ive seen your harvest pics and I follow your paper bag curing method, tons of great info from you. so thanks a lot for that. Here is the info you are looking for and although he mentions adding until it is saturated almost everywhere I've read agrees on 1.

P.S. this is from the Grow Bible, or hightimes website. Also make sure to report back and let us know if you think it made a difference. I think it will mean more coming from someone who has grown the same strain using the same methods for a long time

We did an experiment about 10 years ago and found that buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering. The sugar could also be enhanced with other flavors, but the flavors don't always come through as a notable taste when the weed is smoked.

Determining the dose of sugar is very easy: Add enough to a container of room-temperature water so that the solution is saturated. This will be about one tablespoon per quart of water. Remember, roots can only absorb so much sugar. Over-applying sugar won't make buds swell any more, and it'll also attract ants and other curious critters. This is why some growers apply only one tablespoon per gallon of water. If plants take a lot of water because they're in a windy location outdoors, cut the dosage by as much as 90%. As you can see, you'll need to play with the dosage a little, depending upon the growing situation of each plant.

Edit: just remembered you use DWC, does your friend who adds molasses use hydro or soil? a lot of people complain about molasses clogging up hydro systems and a lot of people also agree that the main purpose of it is to feed microbes in soil
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Thanks for the kind words and the information.
 
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