A plea to the AZ-MMJ community.

Philosophist

Well-Known Member
Watch this video and then read below!!!!
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A plea to the AZ-MMJ at large!!


Hello Arizona!

As you all may know I was one of the first and loudest anti-AZCS person on these boards. I spent a lot of time and keystrokes talking shit, making random assertions and trying to be as negative about AZCS as possible.
After doing some research and first hand sleuthing i have found nothing AT ALL wrong with AZCS. In fact 1000% the opposite. People are super cool, will go above-and-beyond in attempts to be helpful and nice.
If you go there and act like an assshole they will ban you, its like a good night club, its fun because if the drunk guys in the corner get crazy, huge bouncers kick them out and you can go back to enjoying your night. No difference.

As far as the growing rights thing...... Its what allows them to grow plants for people, its the loophole, the Keystone, which if taken away will probably be critically harmful to them. Sure you can buy from AZCS, or you can find any one of the patient growers to trade with.......just trust me its good. (all ill say in for the sake of security.) So really let azcs sell for what ever they want...... in the end you will still have many options of where to get your meds. If it doesn't affect you dont worry about it nerds. If you ask, there are TONS of people that have more than enough money to just pay what ever prices, its the convenience of a store front location that appeals to them. Doctors, Lawyer, rich people, that could grow, but dont care to...they make up the majority of the "sign away the right patients"; them and SUPER disabled people that cant possible grow. These few people allow AZCS to operate there rooms full of plants.

---Are they hitting poor disabled people with clubs, forcing them to sign paperwork that forbids them from growing? Then FORCING them to buy 400$ oz?? \
no..... You can find anyone of the 100s of other patients and trade with them in your area. (what i did since i am in Tucson) and be plenty pleased.
$400 oz are for people that CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR CONVENIENCE OVER PRICE. Its like going to Best buy, instead of shopping on Newegg.com Same shit, different price, different purchase method. No real Difference.

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SO in the the end, its IS better for patients over all...and all of the high minded things we have discussed here in the RIU AZ forums is THE SAME SHIT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO ON AZCS!!!!! Trying to lower prices for patients, helping people, getting together for BBQ's and meetups, Local Cannabis cups. It all has a foot hold on AZCS.... So why not unite together under the same Green Flag!!! The differences between us are very small, a few differences of opinions about whos weed is better and who knows more about growing. Nothing to go to war over, and certainly not more important than having an Arizona Patients BBQ with 1000 people someday, or being the first state to actually achieve a good sustainable patient to patient, and Co-OP setup for our state, and we can do it ourselves. We can get farther together in this Harsh police state of Arizona than we can apart. The true enemy is the State government, and the police that lock us up for what we feel should be legal and free.

We are all dreaming of the same thing, a united Az MMj scene.....yet we spend all our time bitching and fighting on our main forums of communications, RIU. Its the biggest collection of AZ people i know of.....making it our times square. We can use our main source of communications tearing each other down and taking shits in each other boots, or we can be adults and make shit happen for ourselves. The only thing that can beat Brewer and the state Nazis is a UNITED AZMMJ scene full of hard working, earnest people. Which both AZCS AND RIU are full of. So we can spend our time bitching about who has the better grow style or who knows more....... Or we can start making tutorials for eachother and teaching one another with inDepth Videos and pics. (which takes about as much time as making a hate post)

We can keep acting with distaste and jealously/greed (see how well those things have worked for society as a whole)
Or.... we can act with kindness and acceptance, and try to teach and learn, and make our states MMJ scene a good happy place that we all can be proud of.
Lets make Cali people want to move to AZ, instead of the other way around. If something like that is possible WE are the people to make it happen, Not Bill Hayes, not Byrd or Phxfire, or ME or Alan Sobel.

US!!!



​We can make somethign like that a possibility, or we can spend our time thinking of new and inventive ways to be dicks to eachother....... The whole stoner/MMj/weed movement has always been about "peace, love, here bro, share my pizza with me!!"
and now that we are on the precipice of having something amazing. Im sure NONE of use 15 years ago thought we would be smoking and growing legally...... lets make the most of it!

Its election time coming up, and if we band together and work for a common goal regardless of what website we like to go to, we an have a REAL shot at getting 25 miles law disappear, keep dispensaries out for good, and keep its a home growers/Co-op's paradise. Isnt that more important than whos E-Peen is bigger, and who is right'er on the webz????

Riu is full of good people, AZCS is full of good people, we all have the same hobby, we all are working for the same goal. Im not saying hold hands and make out..... but cut out the hate and random attacks, keep it above the belt like gentlemen.
If we all hate each other and faction off we will never be able to affect real change here. Lets use each other to each others benefit. We can be a force to be reckoned with.

Or we can sit at home and fear DEA raids, Police harassment, repealing of 203 laws, and eventually things will go back to us being criminals. Or we can be Men about it and take control or our states MMJ laws by working together and showing some respect for each other.


We can do more as an Army of Patients than we can as a few small bands of stoners......

I leave you with this:

[video=youtube_share;tcmeuKgFDHA]http://youtu.be/tcmeuKgFDHA[/video]
GO TEAM ARIZONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHAMPIONS OF MMJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

jjlongo

Active Member
I agree 100 percent. They dont affect me and for all i can tell they provide a service for many people who cant or simply dont want to grow.

My only concern with what you posted is that it implies we CANT hold hands and make-out? WTF!
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
Philo, I wish I knew you were in town, coulda at least sent some cuttings with you . . . Walking in & dealing face to face is the way to get to know the azcs business... I may try it if I ever get a reason to.
 

phxfire

New Member
A stiff tree snaps in the wind!

Why the 180 Degree bend?

Trying to caught a Rabbit?

When the shadow of a tree is bent, straighten the tree, not the shadow.
 

RottenBoy

Active Member
*two thumbs up*

I think we should all be grateful for safe access to meds. whether it be you growing them or getting them from your favorite grower
or even getting them from a club or co-op. This is all something we have all dreamed about for a long time, lets not fuck it up by fighting each other.
Instead lets combine our powers and abilities.. As a grower and a good guy, I try to do all I possibly can to help other mj patients in need.
 

phxfire

New Member
*two thumbs up*

I think we should all be grateful for safe access to meds. whether it be you growing them or getting them from your favorite grower
or even getting them from a club or co-op. This is all something we have all dreamed about for a long time, lets not fuck it up by fighting each other.
Instead lets combine our powers and abilities.. As a grower and a good guy, I try to do all I possibly can to help other mj patients in need.
Just seeing your NAME pisses me off man...

I believe you have disrespected TOO many folks and for the AZCS crew to come and ACT kind to folks it is a JOKE!!! You all should have done that from the Beginning!!

I never got an answer to my long asked question...

What is Arizona Cannabis Society?

An Non-Profit recognized by the State or IRS?
An LLC?
A Cooperative?
A Dispensary?

And lastly...

When did the Arizona Deptment of Health APPROVE AZCS business model?

MEMO?
EMAIL?

Some Proof of this???

I hate LIARS.... I have NOT got a response!

When can I read your BYLAWS? A Copy? A Sit Down at your location to review them???

I have made several requests...
What do your bylaws say about ALLOWING non members or members to view AZCS BYLAWS????

@ BILL HAYES
@BRYAN AZCS
@ ANYONE WITH TRUTH
 

RottenBoy

Active Member
Just seeing your NAME pisses me off man...

I believe you have disrespected TOO many folks and for the AZCS crew to come and ACT kind to folks it is a JOKE!!! You all should have done that from the Beginning!!
If just seeing my name pisses you off, then you certainly have some serious anger problems in your life. Sorry your life is so shitty.
I have not "disrespected" anyone.... I only argue what I believe to be true..

You really need to take a look at yourself. Have A Nice Day :)
 

AZKING

Active Member
cant we all just get along lol. lets start a fight club. lmao chill people we are stoners smoke a bowl and u wont memer his name to get pissed off. i have been in this desert for 20+ yrs being a chronic outlaw now is the time to unite . there is a dark side in az its arpio.. lets all squash this shit and grow some of our own famous strains get az on the map. i want to see a HtMedical cup here in the next 5 yrs
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
Yes, God bless Sherrif Joe for upholding the law for all & doing it without prejudice ! We should all be enjoying the best time in AZ for MMJ in history ! Agree to disagree, move on. It's only an opinion, right or wrong, & everyone has one whether we agree or not. Not worthy of raising the heart rate to anger . . .
 

phxfire

New Member
Yes, God bless Sherrif Joe for upholding the law for all & doing it without prejudice ! We should all be enjoying the best time in AZ for MMJ in history ! Agree to disagree, move on. It's only an opinion, right or wrong, & everyone has one whether we agree or not. Not worthy of raising the heart rate to anger . . .
I love stirring up the fire though!!!
 

Philosophist

Well-Known Member
Silly Wabbit Trix are for Kids!!!

I am a highly intelligent human being, and i reserve the right to change my opinion about things when the information i know changes.
To say something so patronizing as "Silly Rabbits.........." TO ME is laughable. I am sure you are just angry about something between you and AZCS...prolly something personal that has nothing to do with MMJ.....
If you are too stubborn to take an unbiased look into a subject then perhaps you shouldn't comment.

And i like you bro....just chill the fuck out.
 

phxfire

New Member
I am a highly intelligent human being, and i reserve the right to change my opinion about things when the information i know changes.
To say something so patronizing as "Silly Rabbits.........." TO ME is laughable. I am sure you are just angry about something between you and AZCS...prolly something personal that has nothing to do with MMJ.....
If you are too stubborn to take an unbiased look into a subject then perhaps you shouldn't comment.

And i like you bro....just chill the fuck out.

Word! No disrespects intended man! You know!

I have a smile on my face every time I post on RIU!!

I am ashamed to SEE the place claiming to represent AZ... Which I disagree!!!


What I was trying to say...

Why the 180 degree turn??

A man with reason should have a reason!!
 

don2009

Well-Known Member
Word! No disrespects intended man! You know!

I have a smile on my face every time I post on RIU!!

I am ashamed to SEE the place claiming to represent AZ... Which I disagree!!!


What I was trying to say...

Why the 180 degree turn??

A man with reason should have a reason!!
Yeah guys Philot is right. I never had problems with anyone though if I think the place is fucked up I tell my friends its a waist but I wouldnt bash them unless they did some real fucked up shit. Is that the problem phxfire? Then yeah I see where your coming from, but if not fuckem. Keep it moving. I think we can be the biggest source in the whole state of az if we UNITE! Yall know what it is United we stand divide we fall. If Bill is doing something to benefit the state lets help each other if we disagree with something let each other know if were not feeling it, if that dosent work then just keep it moving. On to the next one. Philotpist when I seen you wrote this thread and said what you said I didnt belive what I was reading I still think azcs hacked your RIU account lol. But your right bro, lets all cut the bullshit and look after each other help each other out cut the bullshit and go back to the golden rule "do unto others and have others do unto you", remeber 5th grade shit. Lets get this going and make this the most UNITED mmj state. I want to start a few clubs but ya'll mofo be acting like crabs pulling each other down. STOP! LOOK AZ we need breeders to make our own desert strain that can take the wheather heat for outdoors (Some Afgan shit), breeders just to have our own best strain IN THE WORLD! We need more doctors, lawyers, our own grow store riu's get 20% discount on shit we need more people to make clones, teens, mothers to donate to each other, the best strain, we need to make or host BBQ'S whatever to unite and get this going the right way. No dissing each other figure what they doing wrong then tell them dont bash them. Just like my grow room I show you my shit then you start calling me an idiot instead of telling me the right thing to do. C'mon guys we better than this. Let me know whats up if it got to do with going foward in life. Fuck the other bullshit. Good luck.
 

AZCS Bryan

Active Member
Just seeing your NAME pisses me off man...

I believe you have disrespected TOO many folks and for the AZCS crew to come and ACT kind to folks it is a JOKE!!! You all should have done that from the Beginning!!

I never got an answer to my long asked question...

What is Arizona Cannabis Society?

An Non-Profit recognized by the State or IRS?
An LLC?
A Cooperative?
A Dispensary?

And lastly...

When did the Arizona Deptment of Health APPROVE AZCS business model?

MEMO?
EMAIL?

Some Proof of this???

I hate LIARS.... I have NOT got a response!

When can I read your BYLAWS? A Copy? A Sit Down at your location to review them???

I have made several requests...
What do your bylaws say about ALLOWING non members or members to view AZCS BYLAWS????

@ BILL HAYES
@BRYAN AZCS
@ ANYONE WITH TRUTH
We have extended the offer to have you down at el mirage and answer any of your questions. We've even offered to give you a tour of the facility, to say we have not responded simply because I won't post our membership agreement for the world to steal is ridiculous. (And no that's not paranoia, its already been done with a previous copy)

As far as llc/non-profit we have both, you obviously know about the LLC.... again, come down face to face phx and I would love to discuss it further.... we may need a couple days to workout a good time for all of us, as we are busy with the opening of a new location as well.
 

phxfire

New Member
We have extended the offer to have you down at el mirage and answer any of your questions. We've even offered to give you a tour of the facility, to say we have not responded simply because I won't post our membership agreement for the world to steal is ridiculous. (And no that's not paranoia, its already been done with a previous copy)

As far as llc/non-profit we have both, you obviously know about the LLC.... again, come down face to face phx and I would love to discuss it further.... we may need a couple days to workout a good time for all of us, as we are busy with the opening of a new location as well.
I do not want a tour my friend.. And I have NEVER asked for a copy of membership agreement... I am asking to SEE your BYLAWS as a Non-Profit Entity!

I own several entities in Arizona myself and the question is SIMPLE...

What is Arizona Cannabis Society?

An Non-Profit recognized by the State or IRS?
An LLC?


AZCS looks to have filed the Articles of Organization for a For Profit LLC

PUBLIC records say different from what you ALL are telling folks! File Number: L-1669918-3
 

Bill Hayes

Active Member
I do not want a tour my friend.. And I have NEVER asked for a copy of membership agreement... I am asking to SEE your BYLAWS as a Non-Profit Entity!

I own several entities in Arizona myself and the question is SIMPLE...

What is Arizona Cannabis Society?

An Non-Profit recognized by the State or IRS?
An LLC?


AZCS looks to have filed the Articles of Organization for a For Profit LLC

PUBLIC records say different from what you ALL are telling folks! File Number: L-1669918-3
Apparently you do NOT understand the law regarding the mmj industry here in Arizona buddy.

ARIZONA CANNABIS SOCIETY LLC is just that, an LLC. Now, if you know anything about structuring an LLC there are several ways to do it. We won't get into this portion as it is irrelevant to the conversation and the question you seem to think you are OWED an answer to. The TRUTH that you keep asking for is public record and easily obtainable. Since you however are the laziest (and loudest) RIU troll I have seen in some time, I'll spell it out for you.

I RUN THIS BITCH!

lol, just kiddin, but it was good for a laugh to a few I'm sure. The truth is this, there was a vote on a potential new law, the law said some things in it, people liked it, it passed. Then there was a rule making process by DHS which laid out certain stipulations for those entertaining the idea of owning a dispensary. One of those rules discusses just who can apply, meaning do we have to have a C-3 or similar, do we have to be an AZ non-profit prior to applying or can we apply as one. We choose to use our LLC for the application rather than our C-3 or Foundation due to the Federal ties of the later. The rules & regs clearly state just who can do what as what, I suggest you read them, I have already supplied you the links numerous times to their site, I can't sit with you while you learn how to read, no time.

The bylaws state that the LLC is held by its Administration as AZCS INC is a "holding co" and ARIZONA CANNABIS SOCIETY has 'members'.

You savvy yet little loud mouth?? mr I own so many AZ businesses already shouldn't have such a hard time finding this info. Our bylaws are published as our most peoples, by law, lol, get it?!


On to your second question, were we approved by the state? Our business model was suggested to DHS through their social media networks and made public for everyone in the beginning as was small portions of our actual business plan and five year model for engaging the cities in which we intend to operate financially. DHS "liked" our business model on FB, they promoted it on their youtube channel, Will talked about it in his blog, and it has been accepted by every city we went to looking to get zoning letters and properties. We were 100% successful. In one case, documented on our site, the mayor of the town took me and my associates to the actual building they wanted us to use, their high school. we had offered previously to purchase it and build them a new school, smaller and well equipped with state of the art resources for their less than 50 student class of 2012. See, you think your talking to some schmuck with nothing to do but grow herb and chat online. truth be told the members begged me to come on here and start posting again because of the simps like your self bashing THEIR collective. See that? I used the word THEIR.

pretty sure I have answered any question you have suggested, now its your turn. Talk is over. If you continue to run your mouth on here you do nothing but prove your full of shit and just a jealous hater wanna-be as has been suggested by several members here already.

Put up or shut up bitch.

Show us ALL one single fucking thing you have done to help a patient that was NOT for a financial gain to yourself. PUT UP THE PROOF or your nothing more than a whining little bitch that sits at the keyboard all day while everyone else is out there trying to make a difference. people like me putting their ass on the line only to be stabbed in the back by ungrateful little pukes like you who were simply to late to catch the green wave here in AZ and now your trying to play catch up.

You want to SEE the bylaws, then bring your sorry ass down here cause I sure as shit aint about to post it on a public forum for your lazy ignorant slow minded long winded pathetic waste of my oxygen to read!


have a great day;)
 

Bill Hayes

Active Member
and for everyone else that had to sit through that ^ I'm sorry.

we are talking about his complete utter failure to understand what has been so boldly spelled out for him by sooooo many, including DHS themselves...

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/36/02806.htm&Title=36&DocType=ARS

36-2806. Registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensaries; requirements

(Caution: 1998 Prop. 105 applies)

A. A registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary shall be operated on a not-for-profit basis. The bylaws of a registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary shall contain such provisions relative to the disposition of revenues and receipts to establish and maintain its nonprofit character. A registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary need not be recognized as tax-exempt by the internal revenue service and is not required to incorporate pursuant to title 10, chapter 19, article 1.
 
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