ruwtz
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Sounds painful.
8 months, $10,000 and a whole lotta hard work=this...
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Big smo
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Was just thinking the same thing. Shocked in the ass. He is right though. Safety first
ttystikk
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Fuckin' A right, mate.
Some of the best money I've spent on my op is getting proper master electricians to inspect every inch of my work and install the power boxes and capacity upgrades.
We play around high voltage, high current and water. In a wood frame building that my precious and irreplaceable ass sleeps in.
NO SHORTCUTS WITH THE ELECTRICITY.
I sleep very well, btw.
@ruwtz I'm not implying anything about your work, I'm just a lil nuts about safety, too. Frankly, I feel that it's a healthy paranoia.
ruwtz
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Absolutely. Serious business. No offense taken. My tough inspector signed off my DIY so we're all good here.
Carolina Dream'n
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When I started doing this I went to the local tech school and get certified. I can't/don't allow randoms into garden, so had to learn how to do every aspect by myself.
Every grower should have at least a little knowledge in electric, HVAC, plumbing and carpentry.
Walterwhiter
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I completely agree with healthy paranoia lol many a time has that knawing feeling saved my ass!
@Carolina Dream'n I've seen some kinda scary shit on here and I'm not talking about the big diy builds either. cords and shit on the floor next to there hydro res and some of these scary hazardous lighting setups....smh
ruwtz
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Lol. This one feels old to me now - so much has happened on this first run since the summer!!!
Kinda neat some people have come back to it though. This building was a real achievement for me personally. Especially my hokey electrics. Oh and wrapping the building paper by myself.
Little things, eh?!
ruwtz
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Check out the grow log in my sig - running at 100% capacity now. Or more like 125% in veg - need to cut down for the sake of better quality training really, just hard to bring myself to throw healthy plants out.
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ttystikk
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Wow, well done, Sir. Respect. Indeed I feel the same way, even if one's specialty lies elsewhere.
bud nugbong
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Well done on the shed ruwtz.!
ttystikk
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Look up ruwtz maneuver, volume 1 for what he's been doing in it.
Spoiler alert; it's goooood!
Tripped circuits
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I see it says you pulled a permit, but that wiring does not look to code unless all loads have no neutrals. knowing what is going on here that is not the case. next time go with a extra wire so the 240v circuits have a neutral. long story short, neutrals blow breakers, not the grounds. by chance if you do have a short the path of the current will be to ground, path of least resistance. that doesn't mean the ground bar in your sub panel. I would isolate any of those 240v without neutrals to not come into contact with a lesser path of reistance because if they do and you have no return path(neutral) the light or ac or anything could become hot. meaning when u touch your light you will get shocked if there's a short. if u have any questions pm me. hope everything works out great and there are no problems. I am a worst case kinda guy, hence why I don't grow in my nazi state. but keep on keeping on 
ruwtz
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Hmmm, I don't really get what you're saying here but you clearly understand the why's much better than I.I see it says you pulled a permit, but that wiring does not look to code unless all loads have no neutrals. knowing what is going on here that is not the case. next time go with a extra wire so the 240v circuits have a neutral. long story short, neutrals blow breakers, not the grounds. by chance if you do have a short the path of the current will be to ground, path of least resistance. that doesn't mean the ground bar in your sub panel. I would isolate any of those 240v without neutrals to not come into contact with a lesser path of reistance because if they do and you have no return path(neutral) the light or ac or anything could become hot. meaning when u touch your light you will get shocked if there's a short. if u have any questions pm me. hope everything works out great and there are no problems. I am a worst case kinda guy, hence why I don't grow in my nazi state. but keep on keeping on
I've never heard of a neutral on 240v, why would it need one unless its a mixed 120/240v circuit? I have no 120/240v combo circuits or devices. What current would the neutral carry in a 2 leg 240v single phase system?
Since I was signed off on the permit I would expect that everything is above board here, but feel free to elaborate. Other keen-eyed pro sparks (@cat of curiosity @Carolina Dream'n etc) have looked here too without raising this one, but obviously I have cause for concern if this is unsafe in any way.
An example would be great as your description above really is stretching my ability to understand! Thanks for contributing.
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ruwtz
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Stop, i'll blush.
Tripped circuits
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Well in 120v it's function is a return path for current (amps) in a 240v it doesn't serve that purpose if the two hots balance each other out (equal loads), it's sole purpose would be to handle short circuit loads. this is why ground and neutral get bonded at one point for worst case scenario where there is no neutrals. grounds are solely for personal protection in the event there is a short that doesn't have a return path (neutral) to the panel to blow the breaker, the ground would earth the current. the ground will then pass the fault from the ground to the neutral to blow the fuse or breaker. a neutral is important, it's the primary return path in the event of a short. people confuse grounding and neutral, that is why we have to separate them now. if your grounds go back to the panel It should be ok, but make sure your grounds stay connected good in your equipment