4x4 Tent, 1000w, 6"inline............ 1.5 LBS dry YIELD!!

Hey all this is my FIRST post on this site it looks like a great site. Im putting a NEW grow together and heres what i got and how i want to run it, my goal is 1.5 LBS dry yield.

4x4x6'8 Tent, 1 1000w HPS/MH , Daystar 6" Aircooled Hood , 320CFM 6"fan, 6"Carbon Scrubber, Reflector Heatshield, 16 3gallon square pots, Sunshine Mix#4

Im in an aprtment and this grow must be as silent as possible .......I plan to run my exhaust as follows: Scrubber>duct>Hood>duct>Fan>duct>outside tent.

Do you think this set-up will keep my room in the 70's? Also 16 3gallon pots in 4x4 tent is a tight sqeeze will this produce me atleast 1.5 LBS Yield???

My current Grow is 3.5x3.5x8 400w hps with one 4" 160CFM fan with 16 2gallon pots. I was not able to even yield 1 pound with this set up so now I will start a second grow using this equipment and I'm just looking for advise on the best way to lay out the stuff i already have... ANY IDEAS?? WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN YOUR GROW TENT?

ive got the same size tent with the same amount of wattage but its split between a 600hps and a 400hps, i grow in soil using biobizz biogrow and biobloom nutes, i also use(d) molasses at the last 3 weeks, my harvest will be in ten days. i grew 5 'the church' and 1 'la woman', my veg time was around 5 weeks under the 600hps(i only got the 400 the week i went to flower), i took 1 church outta the tent coz it seemed as if it was hermieing but it stopped. what i will say is that u got far too many pots if ur going full height on ur plants, i found that 6 was too many and wont go above 5 again, u'll be ok if ur topping or lsting but if not then ur gonna have to trim and prune like fuck to get the light down to the bottom reaches of ur plants, my plant are between 3.5' and 5 ' in height and looking at them right now i'm gonna pull 20oz from the five in the tent and maybe another 4oz from the separate one, and this was in 3 gallon pots with miracle grow soil/vermiculite and perlite. theres a cpl of pics in my albums although its mainly the separated plant that there of.

My set up 1000 watts xxxl hood ,co2. light air cooled with separate blower sucking thru light. co2 and exhaust on seperate timers. six white lightning plants in five gallon pots. full line of fox farms nutes. plants were trained lots of tops. exhaust goes straight up chimney. I am at day 25 of flowering and I would be shocked if I dont get at least 2 lbs.

Dude that's totally possible. Now if you had CO2 supplementation, you could probably achieve 2 pounds.

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GNOME GROWN said:

check out the link in my sig!...im going for a pound all day!

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Hey thanks for the responces......i know that if i use 16 3gallon pots that i wont be able to get light to all the bottoms of the plants but thats ok because i want to concentrate onthe colas so i fugured i have 16 really nice colas so basically would 16 pots in a 4x4 be considered a SOG grow??

smoking chef said:

My set up 1000 watts xxxl hood ,co2. light air cooled with separate blower sucking thru light. co2 and exhaust on seperate timers. six white lightning plants in five gallon pots. full line of fox farms nutes. plants were trained lots of tops. exhaust goes straight up chimney. I am at day 25 of flowering and I would be shocked if I dont get at least 2 lbs.

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sounds like a good set up you got there. I only want to use 1fan though in my tent becaue of noise levels. Is there a way to use Co2 and only have 1fan for cooling hood and exhausting tent????? ANYONE KNOW?

sog stands for sea of green....sog is when u r constantly flowering!..every 2 weeks u pull a few plants out to harvest and a few plants go in to flower!

GNOME GROWN said:

sog stands for sea of green....sog is when u r constantly flowering!..every 2 weeks u pull a few plants out to harvest and a few plants go in to flower!

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I thought Sea Of Green ment that theres literally a "sea of green". Plants packed togeather atleast one plant per square foot or less. Ive Never heard that one requires a seperate VEG room to do a SOG grow are you sure about this?? I dont believe that to be an accurate statement.

I am new here, so excuse my possible naivety, but I have a question about the placement of your scrubber. Why do you place it 1st in line? Wouldnt it be best to place it at the end? so it is the last thing before the air is released outside the tent?

pkgrower said:

I am new here, so excuse my possible naivety, but I have a question about the placement of your scrubber. Why do you place it 1st in line? Wouldnt it be best to place it at the end? so it is the last thing before the air is released outside the tent?

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The scrubber dosnt filter air from END to END it filters by eather sucking or bushing air from all around its surface area.....this means that it eather has to be on the END of my set up or at the BEGINING. If its at the end it must be on the outside of my tent and it would go as follow: hood>duct>fan>tent>scubber. Down side to that is ive read and been told that you want to SUCK air through the filter NOT push air though it. If this is true then i must put the filter INSIDE the tent BEFORE my hood going as follows: scrubber>duct>van>duct>outside tent.......

Now if i had a Second fan i would just put the scrubber at the top inside of tent and use the extra fan to exhaust the room and i would use the other fan for just cooling the hood pulling air from OUTSIDE the tent in through the hoods and out the other side of the tent. Bu that would mean more noise which i want to avoid.....this make sense to anyone or do i sound crazy or somthing?

I had the same issue. You have to run your light in a sealed system so you're not wasting co2. The advantage of this is that you don't need to scrub your heat exhaust. Bad news is that you have to add a fan. I would recommend a small axial fan like the ones inside a desktop pc. A 220v axial fan running at 110v is nearly silent. I use a water-cooled light and an axial fan in my cabinet for this very reason, dead silent.

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FootClan said:

The scrubber dosnt filter air from END to END it filters by eather sucking or bushing air from all around its surface area.....this means that it eather has to be on the END of my set up or at the BEGINING. If its at the end it must be on the outside of my tent and it would go as follow: hood>duct>fan>tent>scubber. Down side to that is ive read and been told that you want to SUCK air through the filter NOT push air though it. If this is true then i must put the filter INSIDE the tent BEFORE my hood going as follows: scrubber>duct>van>duct>outside tent.......

Now if i had a Second fan i would just put the scrubber at the top inside of tent and use the extra fan to exhaust the room and i would use the other fan for just cooling the hood pulling air from OUTSIDE the tent in through the hoods and out the other side of the tent. Bu that would mean more noise which i want to avoid.....this make sense to anyone or do i sound crazy or somthing?

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Thats how my set up is I pull air from the out side to cool the bulb and then exhaust outside...then I have another fan hooked up to a carbon filter that just circulates air in the room....this works best for me ...because I run co2 all the time and a/c in summer....can't suck it all outside...

cannatari said:

I had the same issue. You have to run your light in a sealed system so you're not wasting co2. The advantage of this is that you don't need to scrub your heat exhaust. Bad news is that you have to add a fan. I would recommend a small axial fan like the ones inside a desktop pc. A 220v axial fan running at 110v is nearly silent. I use a water-cooled light and an axial fan in my cabinet for this very reason, dead silent.

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So your saying that the only exhaust in your grow tent is small pc fan? what size fan do you use to cool your lighs with? Is this enough to great neg. pressure?

jcdws602 said:

Thats how my set up is I pull air from the out side to cool the bulb and then exhaust outside...then I have another fan hooked up to a carbon filter that just circulates air in the room....this works best for me ...because I run co2 all the time and a/c in summer....can't suck it all outside...

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Does one need two fans to use Co2? Is there a way to use Co2 in a tent with one fan cooling and exhausting tent at same time?

jcdws602 said:

Thats how my set up is I pull air from the out side to cool the bulb and then exhaust outside...then I have another fan hooked up to a carbon filter that just circulates air in the room....this works best for me ...because I run co2 all the time and a/c in summer....can't suck it all outside...

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About that second fan with the carbon filter. This pulls air from within the room and exhausts it back into the room? So there is no intake from outside the room for this fan?

Thanks,

Does one need two fans to use Co2? Is there a way to use Co2 in a tent with one fan cooling and exhausting tent at same time?

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You can have all your exhaust fans and regular fans turn off when the Co2 is on...but if you want to have optimum Co2 levels it is better to not exhaust anything from the room at all..that is why I prefer to run two fans.....even though the noise is kinda annoying.....but I have speakers set up in my veg and flowering areas so I just bump my music and drown it out

About that second fan with the carbon filter. This pulls air from within the room and exhausts it back into the room? So there is no intake from outside the room for this fan?

Thanks,

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Yeah it just recirculates..I have reconfigured my exhaust almost every way possible and this is the best way I have found as far as smell goes...

GNOME GROWN said:

sog stands for sea of green....sog is when u r constantly flowering!..every 2 weeks u pull a few plants out to harvest and a few plants go in to flower!

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GNOME GROWN said:

look it up!

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Sorry to interupt,

No.

Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus, less time is required between crops.

"Perpetual Harvest" is the method by which you can harvest as often as you like. Rotating your crops and starting a new cycle every couple weeks can be done whether you're using a SOG method or not.



As far as fans go, I like the Elicient inlines. MUCH strurdier than CanFan therefore quieter. But quality counts when you're looking for quiet fans. Oil and clean them every couple months too.

smokingrubber said:

Sorry to interupt,

No.

Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus, less time is required between crops.

"Perpetual Harvest" is the method by which you can harvest as often as you like. Rotating your crops and starting a new cycle every couple weeks can be done whether you're using a SOG method or not.



As far as fans go, I like the Elicient inlines. MUCH strurdier than CanFan therefore quieter. But quality counts when you're looking for quiet fans. Oil and clean them every couple months too.

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they thanks for clearing that up i new he wasnt right but i just wanted someone to confirm it thanks.........yea some one else told me that elicent fans are the most silent out of the fan options.....do you know anyting about making a box for sound damping the fan? or maybe just rapping insulation around the fan?? any ideas? and do you think one 6" 320 CFM fan will work for cooling hood AND exhausting and scrubbing at same time or am i just wishful thinking here??