315cmh CLOSET GROW

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toxic bizzle

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Should I keep feeding them or not cause last three waterings been straight water I can still see powder nutes on the top soil from when I was top dressing the soil
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Looking good toxic, very healthy. They do have a ways to go though (1 week+), if you see those "hairs" that some are starting to turn brown/reddish and curl, once all or most of the white one's have turned to that state, check the trichs and pull when most are cloudy and you start seeing the odd amber. Some growers let them go longer to get a lot of amber but that's actually degrading THC levels, so degraded potency. The fallacy is that more amber = more heavy/body stone, the reality is that you're getting reduced THC levels the longer you let them go amber. To get a heavy/body stone, get the right genetics, typically something indica but the highest potency for any strain is all cloudy trichs. If I even check trichs I pull them as soon as I start to see any amber starting up, regardless of strain. Eventually with some experience you can just look at the plant and know when it's ready to pull.
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GroErr

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toxic bizzle said:
Should I keep feeding them or not cause last three waterings been straight water I can still see powder nutes on the top soil from when I was top dressing the soil
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You have enough time I think based on the last pics, maybe feed them once more, then water until they finish, typically what I do for the last week or so. To me less is more with feeding, if the plants need it fine, but if they're healthy I just water. Some argue that you should feed until the end which may be true with strictly yield in mind, probably yields a bit more, but to me quality trumps yield. ime overdoing nutes reduces terp levels/quality.
 
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toxic bizzle said:
Groerr what's up with this yellowing ? From my understanding this a good sign towards the end of the grow ?
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Yeah, nothing to worry about this far in, leaves will start to fade and larger fan leaves will go first. You have at least a week they look like they could go a bit longer but still nothing to be concerned about at this point. Not long now, keep them happy and you're looking at some nice bud soon :)
 
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i used to do 2 weeks of flush,, but found in my sog style grow with plants taking in gallons per day that a 3-5 day flush at the end works well.. yellowing starts at 5-6 weeks into flower,after nutes are switched to full bloom on week 3. then the flush really pulls some color out of the leaves.. with 2 weeks of flush you get beautifull purples but lose some bud size, wile a 5 day flush you get all the swelling you can out of buds and all the nutrients are used up so you get the fall colors in leaves.. so i guess its a up to person thing,, if looking for yield alone a few days of flushing will do, if quality is the goal then id say the more flush the better.. let the color of your plants tell you...
 
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How much more time you guys think ? I know groerr mention few more weeks but after these new pictures, Im curious if that's still the case
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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just found this thread. i looked at first page or 2 but i don't see what size your closet is?

upgrading my older 400 CMH to 315LEC and trying to figure out if i'm gonna use a 400HPS as well. mine is 3x4ft

thanks!
 
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toxic bizzle

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rkymtnman said:
just found this thread. i looked at first page or 2 but i don't see what size your closet is?

upgrading my older 400 CMH to 315LEC and trying to figure out if i'm gonna use a 400HPS as well. mine is 3x4ft

thanks!
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I'd go with the 315 your space is smaller then mine I'm at like 6ft in height...keep in mind, theirs more factors that play a part in lighting besides space. Be sure to over compensate on air flow, I'm fortunate with my situation, I over sized the carbon filter as well as my outtake fan and I have two circulating fans(only running one now because the plants took over) the smell at this point will stink up my house, if I don't keep a couple widows an let air move through the place other then that it's been fine. That 315 with out running the portable AC would reach up to 80-85 considering I live near the beach in California where the ambient air is roughly 70 degrees + or - a few degrees . Hope this helps
 
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rkymtnman

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toxic bizzle said:
I'd go with the 315 your space is smaller then mine I'm at like 6ft in height...keep in mind, theirs more factors that play a part in lighting besides space. Be sure to over compensate on air flow, I'm fortunate with my situation, I over sized the carbon filter as well as my outtake fan and I have two circulating fans(only running one now because the plants took over) the smell at this point will stink up my house, if I don't keep a couple widows an let air move through the place other then that it's been fine. That 315 with out running the portable AC would reach up to 80-85 considering I live near the beach in California where the ambient air is roughly 70 degrees + or - a few degrees . Hope this helps
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so what is your sq footage?

i was able to cool the 400 hps and the 400 cmh with just outside air. cold outside air in CO isn't hard to find. lol.
 
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toxic bizzle

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I'm not exactly sure how many Sq ft I'll have to look at that later but it's close to what you have going I know it's something like 3x4 ft definitely not any bigger then that though.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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toxic bizzle said:
I'm not exactly sure how many Sq ft I'll have to look at that later but it's close to what you have going I know it's something like 3x4 ft definitely not any bigger then that though.
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thanks. yeah, 3x4 is 12 sq ft. so if yours is close, i think i can get by with just the new LEC. will be 400 less watts on the power bill too compared to this last run which is a bonus.
 
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toxic bizzle

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315 kills man I was really impressed with it in veg . Reading other grows that used it for flower also had awesome results. I used the 400 cause it was sitting and I figured more lumens the better
 
GroErr

GroErr

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toxic bizzle said:
How much more time you guys think ? I know groerr mention few more weeks but after these new pictures, Im curious if that's still the case
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Looking great, nice job, very healthy. Keep posting them up every few days, still another 10-14 days imo though. It's a tough guess at finishing times as the strain, even pheno of a particular strain can go shorter or longer, and the environment can affect it as well. Typically what I've found with the 315's is they knock off 4-6 days from either hps or LED flowering times and they tend to finish at the low end of the Breeder's published finish times.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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toxic bizzle said:
Thanks for your help again groerr it's much appreciated
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Nice, you have a good haul coming up. Still looking like a week or so but they're maturing well, no real defs, nice and healthy and green :)

Here's a couple of sample buds from my F2 pheno hunt run. First pheno is probably 8-12 days, second is 2-3 weeks away, both went in at the same time but maturing at completely different rates.

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