2nd attempt at 1st grow...problems again :-(

Yeah...she asked for my advice...I felt bad because she bought all that crap...I think Carrie could be an expert grower if she wasn't so confused about all this stuff and everyone telling her to do this and that...buy this and buy that...I really think she believes in these products because everyone endorses them...she did plant a plant that has not got anything but water till now...I think that's the first step...I'll try and help her with the other plants but she's done so much stuff to them it's a testament to how hardy cannabis really is...good growing

ok my PH's are really stable, they stay around 6.8 now that I added the other soil less mix in..
Side by side though, luna looks WAY behind the other fem northern lights...it's on 2nd-3rd leafs, lunas cotys went yellow/pale..and part of her stem..she finally has some leafs growing, but as I said is way behind the other one the same age (in fact, the 3 day from popping dirt thc snows are her size!!!)
I found a feeding chart for GH nutes, and after the "switch" to flowering nutes, they go down on the ppms, back to around 500...perhaps that is why I fried them when switching, I kept them around 1000 ppms.

just letting them get thirsty and hungry while I am fixing up the new grow rooms...start moving this weekend, fun fun when ya can't lift a box!
I think good air exchange will make a big difference, too! So looking forward to getting em all snug in their new home!

ok, Icannabis..on my rom gf mum...all her new growth (and there is a lot!) is kinda lime green, I am about 950 ppms w/ her and no bad effects, how much up should I go at a time, like an extra 100, if ok, go up another 100, etc?
That is what I have been doing with the 2-3 week olds that have no nutes in medium..started them at like 175...then 240...275 is where were at now...with no burning b/c I am only using the organic "big bloom" by FF.(under 1 of NP&K) I think though I am starting to "see and feel" when they need food..just not sure with the yellowing of luna and her stem (she was just coming up when the power outtage hit, so is stunted)
Will update pics later tonight, those thc snow seedlings have already almost caught up with the white widows(2 week diff or so..)...

ok it's been a week with Luna...you need to use the GH grow and micro hydro nutrient and give luna 250 ppm of nutrient this next watering...and then ph the water down to 6.0...nothing else

so all the nutes I have for soil, Ya want me to use hydro nutes???!!
K..will do
LOL

ok let's peek at some pics...actually luna hasn't grown in a week, and when you see her beside the other N lights fem, we may want to rename the good one Both are planted in pots with holes, only difference is non luna NL didnt get purple stem from the cold, nor is she yellow in leaf & stem...may be we should cull her? She isn't doing much.
The other N lights just had it's 1st food 4 days ago, 200 ppm big bloom w/ earthworm castings, she appeared to like it! No burn, and she grew 2 more sets of leafs..

some more pics of the babies...that 1 bubble clone, damn, couldn't tell if it was from seed it got so vigorous..other clones are rooting slower, this one has big white roots coming out the bottom not 2 weeks out of the dome! The white widows are finally growing again..they stunted for like 4-5 days after the cold..and I have only 1 NYC diesel that popped of the 3 freebie seeds..but she is looking good, too.I have been giving them all the FF big bloom, 280 ppm on the bigger 4 and 200 on the smaller ones.(which minus my water is actually 150)

all in all..I have to say they are looking pretty good..I am very pleased!!! On this redone nute schedule I found for the fox farms line for growing MJ..says to start adding the "grow big"in the 3rd week, it's got some NPK in it..so to get to target ppms I did a test and it will take 1 capful big bloom and 6 drops of grow big to get to target ppm.
Tbo..I never really thought THAT accurate measurement was necessary, but sure learned it is!!!
I have learned so much in such a short time thanks to all you guys, Icannabis, lime, matt, scrog, bkbudz(all of whom I miss seeing around!!!)

I am GOING to have a harvest! I should get my ebb&grow control bucket today, think I will finish up the soil grow b4 I add that to the mix..unless I start growing w/ that guy, then we may use the ebb&grow.

Yes...simple hydroponics nutrients because you are using soil less mix it has nothing but a jump starter to get seeds started in it...and the hydro nutrient has everything a plant needs and is not formulated for soil so you use one product and nothing else...tell me if luna likes her nutrients...later

here I'll just tell you the feeding schedule because I don't really know when you started Luna and it saves time...I would use week one nothing but water...week two 250 ppms Gh bloom and micro...week three 250-300 ppm GH grow and micro...week 4 400-500 ppm gh grow and micro...week 5 600 ppm gh grow and micro...and I'd keep it there the rest of the way...I also use fresh water in between the feedings...thats why I don't drench the soil it takes a lot of time to dry out...I only use 200ml of water the first watering...and I go up to 400-500 the next two weeks then 1 liter I like to follow 100 ml for every inch of growth you see...and I water every 3 days in veg...it's simple good growing

newwb said:

ok let's peek at some pics...actually luna hasn't grown in a week, and when you see her beside the other N lights fem, we may want to rename the good one Both are planted in pots with holes, only difference is non luna NL didnt get purple stem from the cold, nor is she yellow in leaf & stem...may be we should cull her? She isn't doing much.
The other N lights just had it's 1st food 4 days ago, 200 ppm big bloom w/ earthworm castings, she appeared to like it! No burn, and she grew 2 more sets of leafs..

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Damn the more I look at the diff between these 2 which popped the same day, I think luna's a sick sick girly...her stems leaf stems are almost bright red, and strange colors elsewhere..and just so you know, the only plants with the 100% soil less are the 6 day old thc snows..others have a mix of the sunshine #4 and my super cheap soil/perlite, luna was started in a pot of soil I had baked for like an hour..maybe I cooked it barren...but still no responce from her feeding...will post a pic tom night...I am thinking if she doesn't DO something...like grow... I may have to pull her, numbers r getting too close to keep one that won't recover from the near freeze.....we can always call her sister luna...lol...only difference is she has had a feed of 300 ppm nutes like4 days ago,and grew 3 leaf sets since!! not the slightest sign of burn..so tolerated it perfectly, and I did the holes in her pot too..... and had an under 250 foliar w/ the foxfarm big bloom..along with the others that are growing fast!
I think I am beginning to see the bigger picture on many levels..lots of studying still......there IS actually a mold/fungus called "rust" and the son in law called that on the last batch of the bubblelicious, but couldn't find anyone who knew anything about it, turns out I could be in week 3 of flower if I had treated with something as simple as a sulfer burner!
And a lot of my environmental issues will be resolved with the move into the 3 part room I am moving them into..good air exchange, and need to filter the air for spores and stuff of that nature, but I did read that using foliar nuts will keep away them bad bugs, as well as actual bugs.

newwb said:

bad bugs, as well as actual bugs.

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Oh great now I'm going to be on the lookout for actual bugs too? are they harder to spot than say real ones?

your grow is better this round. looks good. bet you could teach your son in law a few tricks now.

grow in peace.

P.S.

Please use more than one long sentence. A wall of just letters is often hard to read and sometimes
hard to comprehend.

I meant molds/fungi/bacterial invasion as opposed to creepy crawlers.
I tend to ramble when I post medicated, so sorry for the run on sentences.
Thanks for stopping by, and yes, I think things are getting better as well.
Thanks for looking.
Has anyone ever grown this newer thc snow? By the looks of things they are going to be some Chrystal coated plants, only 6 are healthy, hoping for at least 3 young ladies!
Only real info on google is the seed bank I bought them at, they are a 3-way hybrid of white Russian, big bud and THC bomb, excited because I am actually getting to see this "hybrid vigor" I have read so much about.
I think any seed you pinch some soil over with a slight tail root that is up with cotys in under 24 hr is amazing, and hope it continues with such zest, several are on their second set, even beating out the white widows planted 8-10 days earlier.The girls are all fed and put to bed, not going to go in the room for 24 hrs.
I should notice big changes then
Happy growing all..

Icannabis said:

you don't need to water those clones...the rockwool is too wet...you need to dome clones and leave them alone...the only water they need is on the inside of the dome till roots are coming out of the cubes...and then go to vegging and need 250 ppm to survive in hydro or if you put them in soil and water till there on there 8" inches tall...if your adding any kinda carbo product ants love simple sugars and will come an feast...you did a good job on the pot you'll see roots come out of those hole soon...then you can flower that plant...on the light green larger plant you need to cheak the ph of the run off if it's in the 6 range add a little nutrient 250-300 ppm of the veg nutrient...if it's lower ph than 6.0 tell me I'll tell you what to ph the water to...the big bud seems to being doing well keep an eye on the ph of the run off if it falls below 6 tell me if it's higher than 6 ph the water down a 1/2 a point of whatthe run off is the next water till you reach 6.5...you need to check the soil ph of all the plants and post it will make this alot easier for me to help...I think because you add alot of stuff to your soil it's jack your pH up and causing all these problems in the dirt...I'm glade Luna is doing well she'll start to grow like crazy soon...if you're use fluorescent you need to get the light to about 6 inches from the tops of all you plants...well good growing and update me on the ph of all the plants

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Oh, btw the PH of the romulan grapefruit mum has been pretty consistant at 6.8, I am still FIM'ing her like crazy to see if I can get her any taller, she is def bushing out!
Question...what does it tell you, the PH of the runoff? I have out of curiosity checked the ppm's of it too, seems all that would be left is what the plant isn't using, is that a correct assumption?T

The mums runoff ppms was only 80 when I fed her 1000 ppm feeding.But she is still pretty much on the lime green side, will wait 2-3 days then try foliar feeding with 800'ish, start just by doing a few new growth sites(she has like 40!!) Hoping the increased feeding will green her up nice by tomorrow.
And I am learning to grow some wicked roots...took a couple pics of the clones I just rooted, when I transplanted

Whats on the stem is normal...and she will start growing and it's doesn't really make a difference if you use alittle soil in the mix...follow the schedule...

ok pic updates of all my ladies... The white widows are like day 15, northern lights day 13-14, NYC diesel day 15, thc snow are day 6!
I noticed a couple of the thc snow have a tiny bit of brownish areas, but not on the serrated edges, more towards the center(between veins) of the 1st leaves so I will go back down on next weeks feeding, almost looks like that rust crap when it started, damnit!
The literature on the sunshine advanced #4 I believe said you can run into MG deficiencies, but going to just keep on with what I was giving them, just backing up on the "grow big" which is a chem nute, I'll adjust the big bloom which is EW castings and low in NPK a bit higher and delete the grow big for another week or so, depending on how they are doing.
Oh and all but 2 of the new batch of clones are rooted, not through the rock wool yet, but close.
Who would have thought, all the methods of cloning I have tried that rock wool would give like 98% success rate!
Anyone know any other tricks to get rid of fungi besides a sulfer burner?](funds r too low)
I mean I have tried to make the leafs inhospitable to the bastards with foliar spraying the big bloom (kind of has a lot of residue)
I saw somewhere how to make a sulfer burner, have 2 look and see what google has.

it will only let me upload like 4 at a time, so here are the rest of the gang...

Does anyone have an opinion on pic #4 the 4 day old thc snow?
Any other ideas on how to get rid of rust fungi if that is indeed what it is?