1600Kw vertical grow tent. Hybrid Aero/RDWC build.

drekoushranada

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Jozikins said:
All you need to start is earthworm castings, molasses and mycorrhizae. Molasses you can get from any grocery store. They sell horticulture grade molasses, I have some but that is because it was gifted, but I used to use normal unsulfured molasses. Sulfur is a benefit though, it is not common to get a Sulfur deficiency, but i have experienced it in the past, with 2 strains in particular.

You can get worm castings from any good nursery, molasses you can get at the grocery store or hydro store, I know the Hi-Brix by Earth Juice is thinner and easier to pour, it is also a very reasonable 18 bucks for 1 gallon. But if you get the grocery store stuff just pop a pre measured amount into the microwave and heat it for a few seconds to soften it up. I like to use a ceramic espresso shot glass for that. Mycorrhizae you can get from a variety of hydroponic outlets and from high end nurserys. You can find it in a liquid or powdered form, but powder goes a lot further. The best part about teas is that you only need a little bit, the idea is that it breeds and multiplies in the bucket so you can make a product that is only good for 50 servings, and make 150 servings out of it.

Optional and recommended additives:
Sea Kelp extract (powdered is preferred for this application)
Guano; bat or seabird; I prefer Jamaican Bat Guano for it's high PK ratio
Fish Emulsion
Nematodes, they defend your plant from fungus gnats and root aphids!
Any product for plants that says "microbe," "bacteria," "fungi," and of course, trichoderma.
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Great I ordered some mycorrhizae from fungi.com. cant wait to brew it up!
 
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Hell yeah dude I am stoked for you! Make sure you read up real good on using this in DWC/recirculating/undercurrent systems to avoid any complications down the line. Did I ever link you that Heisenberg Tea thread?
 
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Jozikins said:
Hell yeah dude I am stoked for you! Make sure you read up real good on using this in DWC/recirculating/undercurrent systems to avoid any complications down the line. Did I ever link you that Heisenberg Tea thread?
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Im already sub"d to the tea thread bro. Where can I go to read about these problems and what are some of the things to look out for that you know off the top of your head?
 
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Smell and film are the two biggest problems. Look out for a film forming on your water surface, look out for root slime, and be extra sensitive to foul odor. The slightest foul odor can spell big trouble in the future, but if you get a faint waft of it, change reservoir immediately, if you catch it early enough, nothing will happen. Keep air circulation and water circulation to a max, anywhere the water isn't churning means that the water is going stagnant, and that needs to be avoided. Anytime crud appears, investigate it to see if it's food forming or a problem. There are a few issues that were addressed in that thread actually. Keep reading through the thread, even the stupid questions.
 
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Jozikins said:
Smell and film are the two biggest problems. Look out for a film forming on your water surface, look out for root slime, and be extra sensitive to foul odor. The slightest foul odor can spell big trouble in the future, but if you get a faint waft of it, change reservoir immediately, if you catch it early enough, nothing will happen. Keep air circulation and water circulation to a max, anywhere the water isn't churning means that the water is going stagnant, and that needs to be avoided. Anytime crud appears, investigate it to see if it's food forming or a problem. There are a few issues that were addressed in that thread actually. Keep reading through the thread, even the stupid questions.
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I will be sure to do that.
 
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BendBrewer said:
I use Heisenberg's tea and I don't see anyone talking me out of using it anytime soon. It's magic. Tired H202 once and the slime loved it. Won't do that again.
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I finished brewing some "Heisenberg tea" and added it last night. I went this morning and checked on the plants and they were Super perky. More than they usually are. Im not sure if it is the tea but it has to be. The roots are seem to grab the particles of the tea. I freaked out at first but I took a close look and smelled them then calmed down and smiled. The plants are stinking even in vegg. I will take a few picks in a minute and post them. The have been in the system for 18 days now:bigjoint:
 
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Here you go people. 18 days in the system.:blsmoke: The root porn is before the tea was added. The have some tea particles on them now. But if they like it I love it!
 
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Alright looking good! Those are some happy roots right there. That little bag seed you put off to the side really took of to be the star of the show, didn't it? That thing is a monster, has some fatty kush leaves on it.

But yeah, the roots don't mind the brown dots at all, and they will all rinse off for the most part when you give them their first fresh water flush. I was so jealous of all the threads I am in now because everyone had beautiful seedlings but me, so I went ahead and germinated 12 of my finer seeds for a whole new generation of seedlings!! With all these fresh mom's, I've almost locked myself into selling clones for the next few months so I don't go way over my limit. But I plan on cloning and testing them all!

Those are some really really happy young vegging plants though, you are doing a great job. Blowing most 1st timers out of the water and you haven't even hit flower yet. It is waaaayyyyy to early to say this, especially with all the new challenges brought on by your first flowers, but I think you might have a knack for this whole "Growing Ganja" thing.
 
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Jozikins said:
Alright looking good! Those are some happy roots right there. That little bag seed you put off to the side really took of to be the star of the show, didn't it? That thing is a monster, has some fatty kush leaves on it.

But yeah, the roots don't mind the brown dots at all, and they will all rinse off for the most part when you give them their first fresh water flush. I was so jealous of all the threads I am in now because everyone had beautiful seedlings but me, so I went ahead and germinated 12 of my finer seeds for a whole new generation of seedlings!! With all these fresh mom's, I've almost locked myself into selling clones for the next few months so I don't go way over my limit. But I plan on cloning and testing them all!

Those are some really really happy young vegging plants though, you are doing a great job. Blowing most 1st timers out of the water and you haven't even hit flower yet. It is waaaayyyyy to early to say this, especially with all the new challenges brought on by your first flowers, but I think you might have a knack for this whole "Growing Ganja" thing.
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Yeah those roots are loving the tea. The bagseeds are some monsters. I cant wait to get them into flowering. Im going to vegg them for ten days or more with the other 600 mh then I will put them into flower 7/17/11. I hope those bagseeds are mostly female. The tent is smelling already. I want to wait until the bagseed start showing me pre-flowers before I flip them to flower. They are around 5 weeks olds or so from seed.

LBH said:
I think you mean 1600w, not Kw :)

Good luck!
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Yeah I know. I corrected it a few pages back. I dont think I can edit the title. Can I?
 
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Just a few updates. Tell me what you think. They seem to not be eating as much as I thought they would. The ph pretty much stays constant or within hydro range and the ppm barely moves. But all and all I feel the plants look good. :hump:
 
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medicine21 said:
Looks good, man! Will you flower in the same setup or going to move them around?
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It will be the same set up. Some of the plants Idont know the sex of because they were bagseed. Im trying to scope some pre-flowers so I will know. So out of the plants in the 3" net pots I figure half will be males. Are you any good at the "guess the sex" game? haha
 
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Clone for sex under CFL, just pop them in a cube with rooting gel under 12/12 and they should show signs of sex as they root under 12/12 within 2 weeks, make sure you properly label both the mother/father and the corresponding clone. Once you find out, throw the clones away, clone only your female plants, label them, and then throw out your males.

But believe me, when you see bananas, you know they are bananas.

Your plants look good and healthy, one is a little droopy, and the rest seem to be over transpiring. What is your RH and your PPM? But it is good that your PPM and pH are rock solid, they should be with that much water in the system.
 
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Jozikins said:
Clone for sex under CFL, just pop them in a cube with rooting gel under 12/12 and they should show signs of sex as they root under 12/12 within 2 weeks, make sure you properly label both the mother/father and the corresponding clone. Once you find out, throw the clones away, clone only your female plants, label them, and then throw out your males.

But believe me, when you see bananas, you know they are bananas.

Your plants look good and healthy, one is a little droopy, and the rest seem to be over transpiring. What is your RH and your PPM? But it is good that your PPM and pH are rock solid, they should be with that much water in the system.
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The RH range is 45-48% and the PPM is at 323 when I checked it this morning. Yeah one plant is a bit droopy while anther plant is cupping upward a little like a canoe. By 2 weeks time they would be growing like giants. haha. I dont really have another area I can do 12/12 at that will be 100% light controlled. So will I cut a branch or just a leaf to clone? I never done it but watched it a few times. :confused:
 
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look it up on your tube on how to properly clone but you use a good branch that is well developed. RH is around where it should be, 50-60% is best for veg, but 48% should be fine. The PPM's could be higher, bump them up by 100ppm and see how your plants respond. I could explain cloning, but a video makes it a lot easier.

Light control the area the best you can, it doesn't have to be perfect, but make sure it is at least dark. Outside plants get moon light, so as long as a light leak doesn't illuminate the plants you should be fine.
 
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Jozikins said:
look it up on your tube on how to properly clone but you use a good branch that is well developed. RH is around where it should be, 50-60% is best for veg, but 48% should be fine. The PPM's could be higher, bump them up by 100ppm and see how your plants respond. I could explain cloning, but a video makes it a lot easier.

Light control the area the best you can, it doesn't have to be perfect, but make sure it is at least dark. Outside plants get moon light, so as long as a light leak doesn't illuminate the plants you should be fine.
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Great. I will get started on that soon!
 
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The ganja is doing great. The are starting to eat and drink like crazy now. I had to top the rez off with 5 gallons of water today. 2 days ago the ppm was at 320 and today is down to 280. I have to start a new tea brewing and do a water change. Im going to up the PPM to 500-600. I think im going to flip to flower soon though.:blsmoke:

 
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