New vert grow, could use some input please

gr865 said:

Not sure of the insect, but it bores in to the new shoot or node and takes the shoot out. Got three plants damaged, Both CK and one BC, CK's are the worst.
GF is picking up some AZAmax. Organic and should work. If any one has other ideas please!.
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Whoa, that's a new one to me- I'd try the neem oil/Azamax route first, to see if I could asphyxiate them. Might require systemic pesticides, you want to be real careful which of those you use on a plant meant for human consumption.

ttystikk said:

Whoa, that's a new one to me- I'd try the neem oil/Azamax route first, to see if I could asphyxiate them. Might require systemic pesticides, you want to be real careful which of those you use on a plant meant for human consumption.

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I will not use anything non organic, it's for my consumption, so I want to doubly cautious.

gr865 said:

I will not use anything non organic, it's for my consumption, so I want to doubly cautious.

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If you have a small crop, you might just kill them manually, pinch them out one by one.

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If you have a small crop, you might just kill them manually, pinch them out one by one.

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HELL YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE LITTLE BASTARDS FIRST!

Ok, so after a good spray and a soil drench along with my regular watering and feeding last night I let them rest in the tub overnight. Found one more worm on a fan leaf, killed his ass but not before he go another shoot. Cock sucker!

This morning I began setting up the Blumats.
Ran the feed line and installed the lines leading to the Blumats. I had them loaded and soaking in water overnight. Then I installed the carrots in the coco and watered them in good with 650ppm nutes 5.85 pH did not give them enough to flush them just enough for settle the coco around the carrots. Setting up the carrots was not that hard and calibrating them was a lot easier than I expected. I only put three gallons in the rez in case I have a run away. Don't expect it though. Did every thing by the book. I think my lay out is going to work great. Hopefully no more hand watering for this ol' man.


I like the cleanliness of the tent, only wish I have the ability to use a larger room, it is sure hard to move around in there. Oh well, good to stretch the ol' bones.

GR

When should I begin tying them to the screens and also begin defo.

GR

Glad you figured out the cause, now to identify and destroy

I wonder if you could fill the hole with a little water or alcohol and watch with a magnifying glass for the bastard to come out?

OHD, Have not seen anymore of the little beggars, got the last one on Sunday morning. I am still concerned with those two bore holes in the mainstem, but I have seen no signs of damage related to the xylem which would be wilting above the damaged area. Continue to watch for any future signs of damage. Did not want to try the alcohol thing, not sure if it would cause any damage to the plant.

Just been dialing in the Blumats, had a small leak in the rez at one of the bulkhead fittings, just had to tighten it a bit. Today I filled the rez to about the 6 gallon mark, and checking the rez prior to adding 4 gallons, I checked the pH and ppm, pH was 5.92, was 5.84 when it went into the rez on Saturday, so not to bad. The ppm went into the rez on Sat. at 705 ppm would prefer 600 to 650 but did not think that would be too bad, well I am seeing some leaf hooking so today the 4 gallons went in at 559 ppm and 5.78 pH, which balanced out to 645 ppm and 5.87 pH.

I am going to add a fill bucket that recirculates the main rez. I am going to use a 5 gallon bucket with an approx. 4 gallon per minute pumping rate @ 6.5 ft. This will sit under the 10 gallon rez with a fill line going in and a return line set were I want my rez level to be. Have not put it on paper yet but have it worked out in my head, bad idea I know I should write it down, first bowl of Exodus Cheese that all that planning is out the window. I will also add air stones with a small aquarium air pump for additional O2 in the rez. Wish I had a smaller water pump but not sure I can get that can give me around 1 gallon per minute and still lift the water the 42" to the rez from the 5 gallon bucket.
Well lights are off in the tent for the next 6 hours so I have some work to do in there and will use my little 10 CFL as the light source.
Later y'all
GR

Update!
Day 39 since sprout.

Put them on the screens this week, have the Blumats "dialed-in" sort of, had one runaway two days after getting them going. Caught it before it got out of the containment tray. They have been tied up some, have done minor defo, have been tucking the fans behind the screens, still get some light so still acting as the solar panels they are.
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I did not cut but a few fans but you can see where I tucked the fans to the back of the screen, will cut them when the shoots new fans get a bit bigger.

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What do I do next to improve this grow?
Unsure what to do next.

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gr865 said:

What do I do next to improve this grow?
Unsure what to do next.

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I would advocate taking the photon blocker off your bulb!

I am sorry, not sure what you mean by photon blocker? Please explain.

If you mean the screen around the bulb, then that is doable, but do you think it is blocking that much lite. It is a burn saver for sure, LOL, experience here.
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gr865 said:

I am sorry, not sure what you mean by photon blocker? Please explain.

If you mean the screen around the bulb, then that is doable, but do you think it is blocking that much lite. It is a burn saver for sure, LOL, experience here.
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Yes.... your heating a metal object.. that fan will keep you in the safe zone....

Thanks, you are so right about heating the wire, did not think of that! I am unsure of the temps in the tent now. The remote sensor gives me a reading of 84 degrees at about the pot level, but my reg thermo in there about 8 inches above the remote is at 78. Going to add a second reg thermo at the same level at the the remote. Have had that remote for yrs, it could be out of wak!
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gr865 said:

Thanks, you are so right about heating the wire, did not think of that! I am unsure of the temps in the tent now. The remote sensor gives me a reading of 84 degrees at about the pot level, but my reg thermo in there about 8 inches above the remote is at 78. Going to add a second reg thermo at the same level at the the remote. Have had that remote for yrs, it could be out of wak!
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Cover your thermometer so it's shaded from the direct light of your bulb. This will give you an air temperature unaffected by radiant heat from the lamp.

There should be two treaded #10 I think threads on the upper part of the mogul.. thread in two I bolts two hang it with.

ttystikk said:

Cover your thermometer so it's shaded from the direct light of your bulb. This will give you an air temperature unaffected by radiant heat from the lamp.

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I sits behind the foliage at about 16 inches from the floor of the tent, so that puts the reg. thomometer at 24 inches from the floor, and it is not covered. I took your advice the first time we talked about this. It is a very good idea.

Ok, got tired of the difference so I put a 2nd standard thermometer in the tent, hung all three side by side and checked the difference 39 min. later.
The two standard ones both recorded 78 degrees while the remote digital read 83. That is what I have been seeing with different meters, the digital is always 5 degrees higher than the standard. I will be removing the digital from the tent.

Ok, I think I am ready to go 12/12, have been lowering light hours over the past few days and am now at 14 on 10 off. Did decent defo yesterday, the Blumats seem to be working good so I am good to go. Thinking of going with a 3/6 maybe 3/8 micro/bloom want to still keep my ppm's at around 600.
I want to do a little more binding prior to switch, I think I am open to much in the centers of the plant so want to bind some of the branches toward the center. The tallest are the CK's @ 24" and the shortest of the BC's is 22" Any thoughts?
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Do y'all think it is time for me to flip?

Have heard of this but I am seeing it now, where the Blumats are dripping I am getting a lot of surface roots. Don't think it is a problem just go to watch and make sure they don't climb up to the drip hose and plug it.

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gr865 said:

Ok, got tired of the difference so I put a 2nd standard thermometer in the tent, hung all three side by side and checked the difference 39 min. later.
The two standard ones both recorded 78 degrees while the remote digital read 83. That is what I have been seeing with different meters, the digital is always 5 degrees higher than the standard. I will be removing the digital from the tent.

Ok, I think I am ready to go 12/12, have been lowering light hours over the past few days and am now at 14 on 10 off. Did decent defo yesterday, the Blumats seem to be working good so I am good to go. Thinking of going with a 3/6 maybe 3/8 micro/bloom want to still keep my ppm's at around 600.
I want to do a little more binding prior to switch, I think I am open to much in the centers of the plant so want to bind some of the branches toward the center. The tallest are the CK's @ 24" and the shortest of the BC's is 22" Any thoughts?
CK1
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Do y'all think it is time for me to flip?

Have heard of this but I am seeing it now, where the Blumats are dripping I am getting a lot of surface roots. Don't think it is a problem just go to watch and make sure they don't climb up to the drip hose and plug it.

GR

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Yeah, they continue to grow up your little holders all through flower... only other problem is you may get some algae on them when they are above surface if there is no light cover. <---your roots

gr865 said:

Ok, got tired of the difference so I put a 2nd standard thermometer in the tent, hung all three side by side and checked the difference 39 min. later.
The two standard ones both recorded 78 degrees while the remote digital read 83. That is what I have been seeing with different meters, the digital is always 5 degrees higher than the standard. I will be removing the digital from the tent.

Ok, I think I am ready to go 12/12, have been lowering light hours over the past few days and am now at 14 on 10 off. Did decent defo yesterday, the Blumats seem to be working good so I am good to go. Thinking of going with a 3/6 maybe 3/8 micro/bloom want to still keep my ppm's at around 600.
I want to do a little more binding prior to switch, I think I am open to much in the centers of the plant so want to bind some of the branches toward the center. The tallest are the CK's @ 24" and the shortest of the BC's is 22" Any thoughts?
CK1
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BC2
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BC3
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BC1
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Do y'all think it is time for me to flip?

Have heard of this but I am seeing it now, where the Blumats are dripping I am getting a lot of surface roots. Don't think it is a problem just go to watch and make sure they don't climb up to the drip hose and plug it.

GR

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Pretty!