Why do you care what other people believe?
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tyler.durden
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I am in love with her. I think I've found the next ex Mrs. Durden...
Padawanbater2
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As I was watching that I started rethinking my position on marriage
direwolf71
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She's hot, and she's right. Religion does drag us (human race) down and holds us back in so many ways. People need to wake up.
Doer
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On the other hand only religion has gotten us here.
It is very hard to imagine no religion since new ones spring up all the time. It might be sort of an ectoplasm. A necessary thing but to promote the best of us.
Suppose you were taught nothing. Do you ever think you could find love? I mean find it in yourself. Find it in yourself on your own after the world has beaten the shit out of you the first time. No one here I bet had a strict non-religious upbringing.
So, you can only suppose this advice is correct. I say it is not. I say there is no way. Scientology, Excankar, and Hippy are also religions just waiting to fill the gaps.
People will have religion unless you take it by force. You cannot. You can drive it underground to be the death of us all, Roman.
And at its core Religion is about what is inside of us. It is the very confused worship of SELF.
And yet the very strictures of all religions is that we are to worship OTHER.
I say dwell, not worship. Linger, hurry not from, pay countenance upon, verily dwell within in the house of the Lord SELF and Know IT.
All religions get this wrong. But, there is a hint of Know Self in every scripture.
guy incognito
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So did wallowing in a primordial cesspool. That doesn't mean it's a good idea now. We have the intelligence to throw off the shackles and listen to reason. I for one will raise my children completely non-religious. I will teach them to think critically and be a good person.
high|hgih
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If someone is crazy enough to pick and choose a religion, then I believe that it is better for them, and everyone to live in their own ignorance. Thing is some religions are brain washing. Humans are far from being able to think anywhere near rational yet.
I'll ask people what they think happens when they die, and it's almost like the people who are religious almost stumble on their own words when they say, 'well you go to heaven of course.'.
It did get us to where we are today, and it teaches virtues. Unfortunately there are evil motherfuckers running most religions and it now seems to be a parsec of politics.
Religion is for the self. And to make others lives easier. They all say this, and some people are evil without even knowing it because they have labeled themselves as religious.
I'll ask people what they think happens when they die, and it's almost like the people who are religious almost stumble on their own words when they say, 'well you go to heaven of course.'.
It did get us to where we are today, and it teaches virtues. Unfortunately there are evil motherfuckers running most religions and it now seems to be a parsec of politics.
Religion is for the self. And to make others lives easier. They all say this, and some people are evil without even knowing it because they have labeled themselves as religious.
Doer
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Well, say what you want, we are all just a food riot away from Stricture by Scripture. The Christians are very dangerous, but hey, once we are in we in right? Are you sure you want to deny your kids the secret handshake in these troubled times? Not meaning to pry of course, me beg pardon.
I have grown beyond my religion but I am very glad to have had the indoctrination.
racerboy71
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are you saying that i can't find love for the simple fact that i've never once in my life gone to a church service, minus of course forced sessions such as going to christenings and the like??
i was brought up non religious, like i said, never been to a church service, ever, on my own willingness.. i don't see how you can say someone can't find love with out religion, if in fact that's what you're saying..
Doer
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So, let's get some details. I suppose your parents had a religious upbringing...or not?
No, I am saying could you imagine how we could have gotten here without organized religion shaping the culture? All the attributes of culture are learned. And there have been some real horror religions that don't preach human love. In fact, in many cultures what we call love is frowned up.
You would be quite hard pressed to prove love is not a learned thing. In fact we see that. If you teach hate, that is what you get. Many cultures go on just fine with loveless procreation and a fear/hate of women called misogyny. Just as some cultures will mate for life and some will try that and fail, it is all learned behavior.
So, my point is, if I beat the shit out of you from a young age and teach you hate, you may find love but probably not. And we find Love is heathy emotion. Hate is an organ killer.
But, a real difference in Christianity is the concept of Love. So, if or not it is a true story of Jesus, etc, matters not, for this subject. Love one another is a concept most of the world does not get, even today.
So, Human Universal Love was introduced in the Bible to the West. So, people are people. And all things become tainted by that.
But, HUL is a good concept to promote don't you think? These new religions waiting in the wings don't bother with that.
Someacdude
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Typical lefty intolerance , you guys crack me up, at least this little idiot says it out loud, to bad, in a few years no one will even notice her,and the ones who do now only want to have sex, not a relationship, you guys rock, about as shallow as they get, keep thinking shallow thoughts and never question anything, unless you can hold it in derision .
Padawanbater2
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Beefbisquit
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I'm intolerant of pedophilia, and murder, and rape, and racism, and lots of other things that are harmful too. I assume, so are you.
Intolerance isn't always bad when it's directed at things like injustice, and malicious acts.
thenotsoesoteric
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You have no basis to make these claims. I'm from a abusive home and was "taught" to be a drunk abusive piece of crap. But guess what bud? I'm not. I do not drink and I have never even been in a fist fight.
And I can tell you, jesus had zero to do with that.
Intelligence had 100% to do with that.
Religion has not taught humans what we already have acquired in birth, our instincts, our emotions. Religion is just a way to try to explain and understand those feelings and instinct, but 4000+ years ago the best humans could come up with was stories of grandeur about Gods and Goddess, till simplified even more, down to one god.
If hate was such a powerful force, then why are humans still around? Why hasn't all that taught hate snowballed out of control bringing with it man kinds downfall? You can't say religion because religions teach indifference.
ginjawarrior
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Hey doer remember your confusion before about proving a negative? I bolded the relevant part
As to the rest I call utter bullshit
Oh and I can tell you don't have kids
ginjawarrior
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Lol what...?