Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

canndo

Well-Known Member
If the author is including the cost of "czars" then he is probably also adding the cost of his cabinet and a whole bunch of other things that aren't rightly called percs in the real world.

this is a bullshit number unless it is compared with other president's costs.

Yeah, he uses AF One, big deal. How would we have him travel? Maybe he could use United first class? Or he could use a smaller plane that has none of the protections, communications and accomodations so he can be effectively out of touch when he travels.
 

NoDrama

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Doesn't really seem fair to add the salaries of all the staff together and say it was spent on the Obama family. Take away all the staff and czars and you have less than $100 million spent on the Obama family. Chicken scratch for the richest nation on earth. If we start getting poor the fed can just print up a few billion and buy some government bonds, you know were good for it.
 

canndo

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obviously the number isn't really correct....but a number even in the hundreds of millions is outrageous IMO

Why? what is the problem with the leader of the free world and the president of the richest and most powerful country in history spending a few dollars?
 

budsmoker87

New Member
"leader of the free world"


you gotta be kidding me


a few dollars? richest nation in the world?


wow you've got jokes for days don't you
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Why? what is the problem with the leader of the free world and the president of the richest and most powerful country in history spending a few dollars?
A liberal will attack a rich man for spending money on himself as being greedy and selfish, but when the president spends YOUR money on himself you roll out the red carpet. I laugh loud long and hard.
 

canndo

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"leader of the free world"


you gotta be kidding me


a few dollars? richest nation in the world?


wow you've got jokes for days don't you


Yes, that is exactly what he is. As was Bush before him and Clinton before him.

Yes, a few dollars in a nation with a GDP of $15 trillion dollars.

And, as I said, this article is specious, it includes "czars" as a part of Clinton's "family" and does not compare the expenditure of other presidents - adjusted for inflation so we have no idea if the money spent is more than other presidents. It is a typical Obama hit piece, short on reasonable fact and long on smear tactics.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
A liberal will attack a rich man for spending money on himself as being greedy and selfish, but when the president spends YOUR money on himself you roll out the red carpet. I laugh loud long and hard.
I have never "attacked a rich man for spending money on himself". The president is our representation to the world of who we are. As I said, would you have him fly second class on United?
 

canndo

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Not this one.

this one too, he is an American citizen and we elected him to be the head of our country. you can try to argue that he is only the president of some of the people but you will fail. you may not like him but he is still president, he affects your life in the same way as any other president, like it or not.
 

budsmoker87

New Member
how about this- ALL presidents spend WAYYYYY too much money....both personally and with their insane budgets. The fucking energy dept had a 27 billion budget!


They're supposed to represent us. Nothing about their lavish lifestyles are representative of ANYONE except the wallstreet crooks and industry monopolies that they subsidize and represent.


You're damn right I think OBAMA ought to fly coach across the country. WITHOUT all his ridiculous secret services, teleprompt speech writers, chefs, stylists, etc. etc. Why the fuck should we pay for this insanity? We pay for EVERY president to fuck us over...and in response, they use our money to constantly increase their security and restrict the public more and more. Obviously they're SCARED of a pissed off public


When I met Ron Paul during summer '10 at this speech/event in Concord, NH, guess what? You could walk right up to him after like ANY normal human being and shake his hand and ask ANY question you could think of without him ignoring you (that includes 9/11 questions, federal reserve questions, bilderberg/trilateral commission/CFR questions, etc).


These other fucking crooks have people like YOU thinking THEY'RE YOUR LEADERS and THEY'RE BETTER THAN YOU....AND SOMEHOW THEY DESERVE THIS KIND OF TREATMENT. FUCK NO


[video=youtube;WNR8Hal5BoU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNR8Hal5BoU[/video]
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
If the author is including the cost of "czars" then he is probably also adding the cost of his cabinet and a whole bunch of other things that aren't rightly called percs in the real world.

this is a bullshit number unless it is compared with other president's costs.

Yeah, he uses AF One, big deal. How would we have him travel? Maybe he could use United first class? Or he could use a smaller plane that has none of the protections, communications and accomodations so he can be effectively out of touch when he travels.
With operable windows, I would hope!
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
how about this- ALL presidents spend WAYYYYY too much money....both personally and with their insane budgets. The fucking energy dept had a 27 billion budget!


They're supposed to represent us. Nothing about their lavish lifestyles are representative of ANYONE except the wallstreet crooks and industry monopolies that they subsidize and represent.


You're damn right I think OBAMA ought to fly coach across the country. WITHOUT all his ridiculous secret services, teleprompt speech writers, chefs, stylists, etc. etc. Why the fuck should we pay for this insanity? We pay for EVERY president to fuck us over...and in response, they use our money to constantly increase their security and restrict the public more and more. Obviously they're SCARED of a pissed off public


When I met Ron Paul during summer '10 at this speech/event in Concord, NH, guess what? You could walk right up to him after like ANY normal human being and shake his hand and ask ANY question you could think of without him ignoring you (that includes 9/11 questions, federal reserve questions, bilderberg/trilateral commission/CFR questions, etc).


These other fucking crooks have people like YOU thinking THEY'RE YOUR LEADERS and THEY'RE BETTER THAN YOU....AND SOMEHOW THEY DESERVE THIS KIND OF TREATMENT. FUCK NO


[video=youtube;WNR8Hal5BoU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNR8Hal5BoU[/video]


And so the president is out of contact for hours at at time, he can't preside over anything, he can't make emergency decsions. The Chinese accidently send some missiles our way but wait, Obama has his cell phone on his United flight and his decisions will have to wait until he lands right?

Advisors? well, they couldn't book seats on that flight, they had to take a later one. Oh and never mind the fact that everyone knows what flight he is on and someone is bound to put a bomb on the plane sooner or later.

Your ideas make no sense in a 2012 world.
 

budsmoker87

New Member
I would sure hope it wouldn't come down to "oh we need obama's approval!" to do something to protect ourselves if we were suddenly attacked. I'd THINK the secretary of defense and or army generals would be capable of making these decisions...after all, we have a president who seems to think his decision overrides the constitution and rule of law, but that's nothing new. If assholes like obama and our other presidents didn't establish sanctions with countries who refused our worthless paper for their precious resources...before invading their country killing thousands of innocents via US and NATO drone strikes and taking their resources anyway, I wouldn't be afraid of terrorism (let's call it what it is- blow back. not TERRORISM)...ahh for fuck's sake!!!



LOL someone's gonna BOMB obama's plane? With today's gestapo-style x-ray machines and TSA molestations? Ok let's say, hypothetically, that DID happen... big fucking deal. A dirty wallstreet-catering tyrant with blood on his hands is killed. NOT A BIG LOSS FOR ME...NOR AMERICA
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I would sure hope it wouldn't come down to "oh we need obama's approval!" to do something to protect ourselves if we were suddenly attacked. I'd THINK the secretary of defense and or army generals would be capable of making these decisions...after all, we have a president who seems to think his decision overrides the constitution and rule of law, but that's nothing new. If assholes like obama and our other presidents didn't establish sanctions with countries who refused our worthless paper for their precious resources...before invading their country killing thousands of innocents via US and NATO drone strikes and taking their resources anyway, I wouldn't be afraid of terrorism (let's call it what it is- blow back. not TERRORISM)...ahh for fuck's sake!!!



LOL someone's gonna BOMB obama's plane? With today's gestapo-style x-ray machines and TSA molestations? Ok let's say, hypothetically, that DID happen... big fucking deal. A dirty wallstreet-catering tyrant with blood on his hands is killed. NOT A BIG LOSS FOR ME...NOR AMERICA

No one pushes the big button but the prez. I would have it no other way and I trust you would not either.

And so you got Biden as president - that suit you? you have an international incident and a disruption of power on the highest levels - that isn't how this country runs and it causes all sorts of things - bad things, like stock market crashes and the same sort of uncertainty that the right claims is what is keeping this economy down.


No, I want my leaders protected

It doesn't matter how terrorism was precipitated, I don't want the president in danger, even if I didn't vote for the guy.
 
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