Looks like Harry Reid has gone to far this time.

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ChesusRice

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ginwilly said:
When it all went down and he looked me in the eye telling me he didn't have sexual relations with that woman I could only wonder why he thought it was my business. I didn't care one way or the other. When he perjured himself in front of congress it made me care.

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Thanks for your stellar example of
False indignation
 
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beenthere

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ChesusRice said:
And why was what went on his private life that had no significance on running the country even brought up?
It was no ones business what fat chick he approved licking the presidential staff
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But the amount of taxes Mitt Romney paid working in the private sector is some how significant! LOL
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ginwilly said:
It really isn't the sex, it really is the lie. Lying in front of congress is supposed to be something we are against.

edit: for the record, if the most powerful man in the world getting a hummer every now and then to take the edge off is wrong, then I don't wanna be right. It was the lie.
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clinton was the star in the governments own sexual harassment video (after he screened the final cut he was surprised to find that the video was AGAINST sexual harassment.) which clearly stated that no government employee (ie, president) was permitted have a sexual relationship with any other government employee who was of a lower pay grade and in their chain of command (ie, interns in the whitehouse) if clinton had been shagging uggos from the treasury department or wildebeasts from DoJ then it would not have been an issue, as it stands he got caught in a lie regarding many things, (of which monica BLewinsky was only the most salacious) and the ccongress fucked up by not impeaching his ass for perjury,, abuse of authority in little rock and washington, accepting drug money as campaign donations (more like bribes) refusing to turn over subpoenaed records, destruction of government documents (north gate videos) obstruction of congress, illegal accessing and removal of FBI files from FBI premises (one guy in the nixon whitehouse got 5 years for 1 file, craig livingstone walked away with an estimated 500 private FBI files) use of the IRS as a political tool, and many more charges that were well founded in the ken starr report that liberals refuse to read because it's all lies. (but having never read it they dont even know what it contains,, but it's still all lies) clinton was acquitted based on political wrangling and backroom deals, not justice or the constitution.

had clinton faced the actual wrongdoing, rather than his lame attempts to hide his sexytime with chubby chicks he would be in prison, not globetrotting and bad talking the bush administration with jimmy carter.
 
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Moses Mobetta

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ginwilly said:
It really isn't the sex, it really is the lie. Lying in front of congress is supposed to be something we are against.

edit: for the record, if the most powerful man in the world getting a hummer every now and then to take the edge off is wrong, then I don't wanna be right. It was the lie.
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They were all dong it and lying about it - esp Newt Gingrich
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
But the amount of taxes Mitt Romney paid working in the private sector is some how significant! LOL
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Shall we try this again?


If a president is a closet homosexual, I don't care. No one should.

But if that closet homosexual presidential wanna be is hot on forbidding any homosexual activity in our country, THEN I would like to know his sexual bent.

Get it? I don't care about his tax situation unless he is presenting himself as one who pays his "fair share" and also trys to have us believe that he is just one more misunderstood joe middleclass.
 
canndo

canndo

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Dr Kynes said:
clinton was the star in the governments own sexual harassment video (after he screened the final cut he was surprised to find that the video was AGAINST sexual harassment.) which clearly stated that no government employee (ie, president) was permitted have a sexual relationship with any other government employee who was of a lower pay grade and in their chain of command (ie, interns in the whitehouse) if clinton had been shagging uggos from the treasury department or wildebeasts from DoJ then it would not have been an issue, as it stands he got caught in a lie regarding many things, (of which monica BLewinsky was only the most salacious) and the ccongress fucked up by not impeaching his ass for perjury,, abuse of authority in little rock and washington, accepting drug money as campaign donations (more like bribes) refusing to turn over subpoenaed records, destruction of government documents (north gate videos) obstruction of congress, illegal accessing and removal of FBI files from FBI premises (one guy in the nixon whitehouse got 5 years for 1 file, craig livingstone walked away with an estimated 500 private FBI files) use of the IRS as a political tool, and many more charges that were well founded in the ken starr report that liberals refuse to read because it's all lies. (but having never read it they dont even know what it contains,, but it's still all lies) clinton was acquitted based on political wrangling and backroom deals, not justice or the constitution.

had clinton faced the actual wrongdoing, rather than his lame attempts to hide his sexytime with chubby chicks he would be in prison, not globetrotting and bad talking the bush administration with jimmy carter.
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Nahhh.


Nixon didn't go to prison, Reagan didn't go to prison and Bush didn't go to prison. Clinton wouldn't have gone either.

We don't put our presidents in prison, much as perhaps we should.
 
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ChesusRice

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beenthere said:
But the amount of taxes Mitt Romney paid working in the private sector is some how significant! LOL
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Becuase he runs on a platform of being a businessman who can relate to those out there in the world trying to make a living
Yet wont reveal how exactly he made his money or how much in taxes (how little) he actually paid while at the same time saying taxes need to go down while effectivly paying less percentage of taxes than your average working stiff like me
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
And why was what went on his private life that had no significance on running the country even brought up?
It was no ones business what fat chick he approved licking the presidential staff
And honestly
I would of lied about letting her do it as well no matter what my station in life
Mopeds may be fun to ride
But i aint gonna let my buddies know
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she was not a moped. i like to whet my whistle on the thick side of town now and again, theres no shame in that, sometimes a real man needs some gravy with his biscuits.

the sexual allegations were a dog an pony show to conceal the real issues,, but the perjury charges were all that could be brought against him politically.

"President Impeached for Hummer!" sells more newspapers and gets more laughs than "President Impeached for Complex Violations of the Brown Act, the Mann Act and the Hatch Act. "

yuck it up and act smug. your boy got off scot free with his criminal misdeeds. yay for you.

meanwhile dont expect anybody to bend to the wishes of your side when you demand something irrelevant like mitt romney's tax records. even with the entire "legitimate press" squawking behind you, youll never sell that to people with common sense.
 
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ChesusRice

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During the scandal, supporters of President Clinton alleged that the matter was private and "about sex", and they claimed hypocrisy by at least some of those who advocated for his removal. For example, during the House investigation it was revealed that Henry Hyde, Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee and lead House manager, also had an affair while in office, as a state legislator. Hyde, aged 70 during the Lewinsky hearings, dismissed it as a "youthful indiscretion" when he was 41.[SUP][37][/SUP]
A highly-publicized investigation campaign actively sought information which might embarrass politicians who supported impeachment. According to the British newspaper The Guardian,
Larry Flynt...the publisher of Hustler magazine, offered a $1 million reward... Flynt was a sworn enemy of the Republican party [and] sought to dig up dirt on the Republican members of Congress who were leading the impeachment campaign against President Clinton. [...Although] Flynt claimed at the time to have the goods on up to a dozen prominent Republicans, the ad campaign helped to bring down only one. Robert Livingston – a congressman from Louisiana...abruptly retired after learning that Mr Flynt was about to reveal that he had also had an affair.[SUP][38][/SUP]
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Republican congressman Bob Livingston had been widely expected to become Speaker of the United States House of Representatives in the next Congressional session,[SUP][39][/SUP] then just weeks away, until Flynt revealed the affair. Livingston resigned and challenged Clinton to do the same.
Flynt's investigation also claimed that Congressman Bob Barr, another Republican House manager, had an affair while married; Barr had been the first lawmaker in either chamber to call for Clinton's resignation due to the Lewinsky affair. Barr lost a primary challenge less than three years after the impeachment proceedings.[SUP][40][/SUP]
Dan Burton, Republican Representative from Indiana, had stated "No one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties ...."[SUP][41][/SUP] In 1998, Burton was forced[SUP][by whom?][/SUP] to admit that he himself had an affair in 1983 that produced a child.[SUP][42][/SUP]
Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Representative from Georgia and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994,[SUP][43][/SUP] admitted in 1998 to having had an affair with a House intern while he was married to his second wife, at the same time as he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.[SUP][44][/SUP][SUP][45][/SUP]
Republican Helen Chenoweth-Hage from Idaho aggressively called for the resignation of Bill Clinton, and admitted to her own six-year affair with a married rancher during the 1980s.[SUP][46][/SUP]
 
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ChesusRice

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After Clinton's autobiography My Life appeared in 2004, Lewinsky said in an interview with the British tabloid Daily Mail:[SUP][37][/SUP]
He could have made it right with the book, but he hasn't. He is a revisionist of history. He has lied. [...] I really didn't expect him to go into detail about our relationship. [...] But if he had and he'd done it honestly, I wouldn't have minded. [...] I did, though, at least expect him to correct the false statements he made when he was trying to protect the Presidency. Instead, he talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn't resist the dessert. [...] This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through. [...] I don't accept that he had to completely desecrate my character.
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ginwilly

ginwilly

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canndo said:
Shall we try this again?


If a president is a closet homosexual, I don't care. No one should.

But if that closet homosexual presidential wanna be is hot on forbidding any homosexual activity in our country, THEN I would like to know his sexual bent.

Get it? I don't care about his tax situation unless he is presenting himself as one who pays his "fair share" and also trys to have us believe that he is just one more misunderstood joe middleclass.
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yes exactly!! Like being Mr. Transparency using executive privileges to thwart a fast and furious investigation.

Or "tell Vladdy to wait until after the election so I don't have to answer to the voters".
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
During the scandal, supporters of President Clinton alleged that the matter was private and "about sex", and they claimed hypocrisy by at least some of those who advocated for his removal. For example, during the House investigation it was revealed that Henry Hyde, Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee and lead House manager, also had an affair while in office, as a state legislator. Hyde, aged 70 during the Lewinsky hearings, dismissed it as a "youthful indiscretion" when he was 41.[SUP][37][/SUP]
A highly-publicized investigation campaign actively sought information which might embarrass politicians who supported impeachment. According to the British newspaper The Guardian,
Larry Flynt...the publisher of Hustler magazine, offered a $1 million reward... Flynt was a sworn enemy of the Republican party [and] sought to dig up dirt on the Republican members of Congress who were leading the impeachment campaign against President Clinton. [...Although] Flynt claimed at the time to have the goods on up to a dozen prominent Republicans, the ad campaign helped to bring down only one. Robert Livingston – a congressman from Louisiana...abruptly retired after learning that Mr Flynt was about to reveal that he had also had an affair.[SUP][38][/SUP]
​
Republican congressman Bob Livingston had been widely expected to become Speaker of the United States House of Representatives in the next Congressional session,[SUP][39][/SUP] then just weeks away, until Flynt revealed the affair. Livingston resigned and challenged Clinton to do the same.
Flynt's investigation also claimed that Congressman Bob Barr, another Republican House manager, had an affair while married; Barr had been the first lawmaker in either chamber to call for Clinton's resignation due to the Lewinsky affair. Barr lost a primary challenge less than three years after the impeachment proceedings.[SUP][40][/SUP]
Dan Burton, Republican Representative from Indiana, had stated "No one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties ...."[SUP][41][/SUP] In 1998, Burton was forced[SUP][by whom?][/SUP] to admit that he himself had an affair in 1983 that produced a child.[SUP][42][/SUP]
Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Representative from Georgia and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994,[SUP][43][/SUP] admitted in 1998 to having had an affair with a House intern while he was married to his second wife, at the same time as he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.[SUP][44][/SUP][SUP][45][/SUP]
Republican Helen Chenoweth-Hage from Idaho aggressively called for the resignation of Bill Clinton, and admitted to her own six-year affair with a married rancher during the 1980s.[SUP][46][/SUP]
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again,, if it were just about sexual relations between individuals over the age of 18 it would be irrelevant under law, and merely an annoyance politically. the real meat of the issue was abuse of power from little rock to the whitehouse,, personal enrichment at public expense,, featherbedding,, graft,, patronage,, accepting illegal campaign donations from persons PROHIBITED from engaging in political campaigns (look up the teamster president Ron Carey's dismissal for more information) shady deals with convicted cocaine traffickers (not dealers,, or street hoods, major coke smugglers with mob ties) illegal land deals based on the authority of the governor to evade regulations,, shady dealings to curry favour through hillary,, fraudulent business dealings through hillary as the shill, missing FBI files, pressuring FBI DEA INS and secret service agents to bend the laws both for and against persons who were in or out of favour with the clinton administration,, and all manner of crooked dirty dealings that made watergate look like schoolboy mischief.

but it was just about blowjobs from chubby broads.
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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ChesusRice said:
During the scandal, supporters of President Clinton alleged that the matter was private and "about sex", and they claimed hypocrisy by at least some of those who advocated for his removal. For example, during the House investigation it was revealed that Henry Hyde, Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee and lead House manager, also had an affair while in office, as a state legislator. Hyde, aged 70 during the Lewinsky hearings, dismissed it as a "youthful indiscretion" when he was 41.[SUP][37][/SUP]
A highly-publicized investigation campaign actively sought information which might embarrass politicians who supported impeachment. According to the British newspaper The Guardian,
Larry Flynt...the publisher of Hustler magazine, offered a $1 million reward... Flynt was a sworn enemy of the Republican party [and] sought to dig up dirt on the Republican members of Congress who were leading the impeachment campaign against President Clinton. [...Although] Flynt claimed at the time to have the goods on up to a dozen prominent Republicans, the ad campaign helped to bring down only one. Robert Livingston – a congressman from Louisiana...abruptly retired after learning that Mr Flynt was about to reveal that he had also had an affair.[SUP][38][/SUP]
​
Republican congressman Bob Livingston had been widely expected to become Speaker of the United States House of Representatives in the next Congressional session,[SUP][39][/SUP] then just weeks away, until Flynt revealed the affair. Livingston resigned and challenged Clinton to do the same.
Flynt's investigation also claimed that Congressman Bob Barr, another Republican House manager, had an affair while married; Barr had been the first lawmaker in either chamber to call for Clinton's resignation due to the Lewinsky affair. Barr lost a primary challenge less than three years after the impeachment proceedings.[SUP][40][/SUP]
Dan Burton, Republican Representative from Indiana, had stated "No one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties ...."[SUP][41][/SUP] In 1998, Burton was forced[SUP][by whom?][/SUP] to admit that he himself had an affair in 1983 that produced a child.[SUP][42][/SUP]
Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Representative from Georgia and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994,[SUP][43][/SUP] admitted in 1998 to having had an affair with a House intern while he was married to his second wife, at the same time as he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.[SUP][44][/SUP][SUP][45][/SUP]
Republican Helen Chenoweth-Hage from Idaho aggressively called for the resignation of Bill Clinton, and admitted to her own six-year affair with a married rancher during the 1980s.[SUP][46][/SUP]
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So two wrongs don't make it right.
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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ginwilly said:
It really isn't the sex, it really is the lie. Lying in front of congress is supposed to be something we are against.

edit: for the record, if the most powerful man in the world getting a hummer every now and then to take the edge off is wrong, then I don't wanna be right. It was the lie.
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He could have as many as he wants as long as they don't work for him.
 
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