VOTE NOW 2012 obama vs the opposition(republican cannidates)

who do you want the 2012 president to be: obama or someone else

  • Obama

    Votes: 29 34.9%
  • Republicans (someone else)

    Votes: 54 65.1%

  • Total voters
    83

FilthyFizzle

Active Member
I kid, I kid . Not all barrak supporters are brainwashed they just simply don't know or they are fooled by his charm.
I see through him like a clean windshield. He is lying. Everything he says is a lie. You can see it in his face and hear it in his voice.
Cmon man he's a puppet. Even you know that.. He can talk real nice lol that's about it. He does what he's told and that's all he can do.. Just like Bush..
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
ron paul, who is heavily invested in gold companies, wants to get rid of the EPA and go back to the gold standard.

if obama is like a windshield, than the old turtle fucker is like an open barn door.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
I kid, I kid . Not all barrak supporters are brainwashed they just simply don't know or they are fooled by his charm.
No one is being "fooled by his charm". I don't think anyone anywhere is actually happy about a second Obama term. They just prefer it to the alternatives.

I'm not ignorant nor am I under some sort of spell. I recognize the faults of Obama. I probably disagree with the outcomes he delivers more than I agree with him.

The fact is that he's the only one who's not running on an Austrian economic model to some extent. A rejection of Austrian economics isn't some form of mental defect. Quite the opposite. Austrian economics is for the most part all theory and there are very few if any examples of it providing a real world positive result.

If anyone has a mental defect it's those who are willing to dive into the pool head first without checking to see how deep the water is when it comes to Austrian economics. Ron Paul does exactly that. And all of you are being ignorantly sucked into it because it sounds good on paper.

How about asking Ron Paul for some real world examples of his polices being successful before buying into them hook line and sinker?
But of course you would never do that because you have religious faith in Ron Paul. What ever he says is the undisputed truth in the minds of many of his supporters, reality be damned.
 

FilthyFizzle

Active Member
no kind of system will ever work accept for a new government regulated currency. The fiat currency we are in is going to pop soon. The dollar looses its value every time they print. They are probably printing at the very moment.
Maybe after the Euro and US dollar collapse we will see a new world currency emerge. They are already talking about getting it done behind closed doors.. I say less than a year.

You think Ron Paul is lying?
 

FilthyFizzle

Active Member
seriously, if he is reelected we will all witness unimaginable things. I don't think there is any stopping it really, they have so much power
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
You mean worse than what Bush did to this country? Worse than what the GOP is doing all over the nation with voter supression, union busting, oppressive abortion laws, etc., etc., ad nauseum. The bullshit spin is getting old.
 

FilthyFizzle

Active Member
Paul is only running in the GOP because its easier than running 3rd party. Don't let the R word scare you.. it's such a broad word
 

PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1

Well-Known Member
Paul is only running in the GOP because its easier than running 3rd party. Don't let the R word scare you.. it's such a broad word
Well,,,The GOP has no intention's on allowing "Ron Paul" to become President,,,He would have to obey by the GOP rule's,,,So he is nothing more than a toss away vote in there eye's which would normally go to the dem's...That's all write in your vote's and you'll support Newt or Romney. Period.:roll:
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
no kind of system will ever work accept for a new government regulated currency.
That I do agree with. The fed should be a transparent government run organization. They should not be able to do things like create a trillion dollar free money fund for banks without anyone knowing about it.

The fiat currency we are in is going to pop soon. The dollar looses its value every time they print. They are probably printing at the very moment.
The problem with our currency isn't that it isn't tied to some random commodity like gold that can increase and decrease in value independently from our economic activity. That's a good thing. The problem is there is no transparency, no one has a say in the matter, and no one is held accountable.

You think Ron Paul is lying?
No. I think he's a crackpot when it comes to economics. I think he only exposes himself to information that goes along with his ideology and ignores the rest of the data. Basically he's put himself in a bubble and now has an unrealistic viewpoint because of it.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
seriously, if he is reelected we will all witness unimaginable things. I don't think there is any stopping it really, they have so much power
Let's hear your doomsday theory. (*hint* If you talk about socialism and raising taxes on the 1% it's only going to make me like Obama more. )
 

j.GrEeN.<,{'^'},>

Active Member
1:You mean worse than what Bush did to this country? 2:Worse than what the GOP is doing all over the nation with voter supression, union busting, oppressive abortion laws, etc., etc., ad nauseum.3:The bullshit spin is getting old.
1:Yes, an attempt at continuation and further impedement.

2:Yes, an attempt at continuation and further impedement.

3:Quit spinning it. :peace::leaf:
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I think it's going to take at least one, maybe two more elections before a candidate running on Dr. Paul's platform will be electable. Not sure who it will be, but if and when a Republican president gets elected, things won't improve because he/she is still just a big government progressive, so another Dem gets elected and things will just keep spiraling out of control. I think it really is going to take a third party candidate, not responsible to the suicidal Eco-loons or to the zealots of the religious right, to make the "radical" changes that are needed.

Unfortunately, the public is still brainwashed enough by the lies and stupification forwarded by the progressives on both sides of the aisle, that they are not ready to face the brute reality that Dr. Paul and his supporters espouse. I see one of two possibilities after we hit rock bottom, either the mass election of people like Dr. Paul that can slowly get us off this progressive death march or more likely, the public cries for someone to take charge and protect them while willingly sacrificing all their remaining freedoms for that protection. It's going to be ugly and painful either way, but the final destinations of those two paths are very different.

So all that is needed to right our country is to disapear all of the Conservatives? You actually believe that? My friend there are other sources of tyranny than government do your best to recognize them.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I kid, I kid . Not all barrak supporters are brainwashed they just simply don't know or they are fooled by his charm.
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Sure, and you ignore the process. I voted for Obama because the other guy was worse, remember That old fuck and his spaced out Alaskan running mate? They are the primary reason we have Obama as president in my opinion.
 

dirtysnowball

Well-Known Member
hmmm well it seems that romney is gonna be around for at least a few more months. i really wish someone would win without signing their soul's away to that devil wall street.
 
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