America's largest minority needs to take a cue from the Tea Party to rock the vote

Ernst

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Love me or Hate Me it doesn't matter. I post the news.

Latinos need a Tequila Party to rock the vote

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2011-05-12-Latinos-need-Tequila-Party_n.htm

While not an extremely new news I think we need to pay attention to the fastest rising voting demographic.
If we wish to legalize cannabis we cannot ignore minority come majority cultures.

SAN DIEGO — The estimated 12 million Latino voters who are expected to cast ballots in the 2012 election will have to decide what fires them up more — disgust or disillusionment.
If we are to find common ground for the success of legalization we cannot ignore the boarder and what effects the hearts of many Californians' ; The War of drugs.

America's largest minority needs to take a cue from the Tea Party movement and start an insurgency challenging both political parties — the one that takes them for granted and the other that writes them off.
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The Tea Partiers took on the Republican establishment over its spending policies and the size of government. In the same way, Latinos have to take on a Democratic administration over its immigration policies.
Many Latinos are increasingly disillusioned with President Obama for breaking his promise to make immigration reform a priority
In the far Southern California the needs of the communities favor organized and controlled sales of Cannabis.
Many see placing cannabis in supermarkets as a practical solution however, strangely, the commercial interests are against allowing local production.

However, let us not discount the Tequila Party in it's ability to effect positive change and control of Cannabis from across the boarder if we allow our citizens horticulture rights.
 

redivider

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this is the worst idea i've ever heard.

the Republcan party didn't do as good as it could've the last election because of the Tea Party.

another party will just erode votes from democrats, giving repukes a fighting chance. no.

we need them to cement themselves behind the democratic party and let themselves be felt in the voting booth by voting democratic.

any additional candidates on that ballot under a Tequila Party will help Republicans, which ultimately hurts the country..... :)
 

Ernst

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It's an important voting block for California and important to the Legalization efforts.

We have to address the needs and concerns of the Hispanic community if we are to legalize.
 

redivider

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but to be fair Latinos have not yet made themselves a force in the voting booth. it's disappointing..

republicans are looking to keep it that way too. they're doing it via legislation that makes it more difficult for lower income folks to register to vote. we'll see what happens next election...
 

Ernst

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Well whatever we can settle on as a stance on Hispanic voting they are an upcoming and important group which the cannabis legalization effort cannot ignore.

They are a majority religious group as I understand.
 

redivider

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Yep it is difficult for me to vote because i am from a lower income..Can you say retarded!!!!!!
actually, what they are doing is making it harder for people to be registered to vote. if you aren't registered, you can't vote.

a lot of poor people relied on 'registration drives' because poor people are busy doing shit like cleaning your toilet all day, so getting to the county registration office is hard when your poor.

so yes, they are making it harder to vote if you are poor.

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Mindmelted

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Sorry smart ass nobody cleans my toliet but myself.
You must be thinking of yourself then.And it was easy as pie to register!!Thanks for playing...
 

mame

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Voter suppression has been rampant in the U.S. our entire existence. Kind of sad really, I even read a report once that alleged that some voters in Florida in the Bush/Gore election were ineligible on the grounds that they were felons - and it turned out many of them weren't. Here's a bit from Wikipedia on it:
State efforts to purge voter rolls have led to disputes, notably in Florida. Before the 2000 election, Florida officials purged approximately 100,000 registered voters on the grounds that they were convicted felons (and therefore ineligible to vote under Florida law) or dead.[12] Many of those whose names were purged were "false positives" (not actually felons). (See Florida Central Voter File.) A post-election lawsuit brought by the NAACP, the People for the American Way Foundation, and other organizations resulted in a settlement in 2002 in which the state agreed to restore eligible voters to the rolls and take other steps to improve election procedures.[13][14]

The issue returned to prominence in 2004 when Florida announced another planned purge, again based on a list of felons. The state government initially attempted to keep the list secret. When a court ordered its release, it was found to contain mostly Democrats and a disproportionate number of racial minorities.[15] Faced with media documentation that the list included thousands of errors, the state abandoned the attempt to use it.[16] Some of the voters improperly purged in 2000 had not been restored as of May 2004[update].[17]
Remember, the 2000 election was decided by what, ~500 votes?
 

redivider

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it's easy as pie if your white and have money.

to the rest of the nation registering to vote is a lot harder.

and it IS part of the republican strategy to make it institutionally harder for minorities/poor people to vote, since these demographics overwhelmingly support democrats.

;)
 

UncleBuck

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Well whatever we can settle on as a stance on Hispanic voting they are an upcoming and important group which the cannabis legalization effort cannot ignore.

They are a majority religious group as I understand.
most hispanics i have known have been very conservative and religious and would probably vote for republicans if those republicans weren't so busy demonizing hispanics.
 

redivider

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it depends on what latin you are referring to.

grouping all latinos under one umbrella is kind of stereotypical.

there's a variety of latinos out there...

there's naturalized citizens, there's illegal immigrants (these people's needs have to be taken into account, they don't vote, but htey're not animals.), there's puerto ricans, there's the first generation of immigrants, there's the latinos who's families have been in the US for 100 years......

but yeah, i do think that latinos have the power to swing elections, and the republicans has actively tried to kept their vote quietly.
 

Ernst

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most hispanics i have known have been very conservative and religious and would probably vote for republicans if those republicans weren't so busy demonizing Hispanics.
The poor people I live with are Portuguese, Hispanic, and various shades of White.
Where I eat is in an Indian restaurant or Chinese who speak Cantonese and I am no way qualified to judge.
 

UncleBuck

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The poor people I live with are Portuguese, Hispanic, and various shades of White.
Where I eat is in an Indian restaurant or Chinese who speak Cantonese and I am no way qualified to judge.
there is a worm in my front yard, and it looks kind of blue, but not like most poor worms.
i changed the hay in my chicken coop but it rained the next day and got wet anyway.
 

beardo

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it's easy as pie if your white and have money.

to the rest of the nation registering to vote is a lot harder.

and it IS part of the republican strategy to make it institutionally harder for minorities/poor people to vote, since these demographics overwhelmingly support democrats.

;)
This is total B.S. ,they sign up homeless to vote and it is free takes five minutes if your slow and can be done at the post office if no one aprotches you someplace more convient for you to ask you to register.
 

redivider

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Republican Voter Suppression: A Guide

By Kate Klonick and Zachary Roth - October 29, 2008, 7:19PM
There are so many Republican gambits designed to make voting more difficult -- specifically for Democrats, of course -- that it can be hard to keep track of them all. So here's a handy -- and by no means comprehensive -- guide to what's happening in some of the key swing states.
Ohio
The U.S. Supreme Court earlier this month denied a bid by the state GOP to force Democratic secretary of state Jennifer Brunner to provide local election officials with lists of new voters whose registration information did not match that on other government documents. Voting-rights advocates had feared that making Brunner hand over the lists could lead to a slew of GOP challenges, forcing hundreds of thousands of voters to cast provisional ballots. Republican leader (and Ohioan) John Boehner -- with help from the White House -- has asked the Department of Justice to step in, but few observers expect DOJ to take any action so close to the election.
New Mexico
The state GOP earlier this month held a press conference at which it released the names of 10 voters it said had voted fraudulently in a Democratic primary in June. After ACORN helped established that the voters, almost all Hispanic, were in fact legitimate, TPMmuckraker and others reported that GOP lawyer Pat Rogers apparently hired a private investigator, who intimidated some of the voters by going to their homes to question them about their voting status. Rogers, the P.I. and the state party are now being sued for voter intimidation by several voting-rights groups.
Indiana
The Lake County GOP sued to shut down early voting centers set up by the county election board in Democratic-leaning cities in the northern part of the county. A judge declined to shut down the sites, though an appeal is scheduled to be heard later this week. But in the meantime, early voting at the centers has been proceeding. In addition, the Republican secretary of state, Todd Rokita, has called on law enforcement to prosecute ACORN for submitting 1400 suspicious-looking voter-registration forms in the county.
Nevada
The chair of the state GOP wrote to Democratic Secretary of State Ross Miller, asking him to require newly registered voters to cast provisional ballots if they correct mismatches in their voter information at the polls. Miller responded with an interpretation of state law that rejected the GOP's request.



Pennsylvania
The state GOP has filed a lawsuit designed to cast doubt on 140,000 voter-registration applications submitted by ACORN in four counties. Among other things, it would require the state to provide additional provisional ballots in the counties at issue. Democratic Secretary of State pedro Cortes has called the "frivolous", saying it's designed to undermine confidence in the system. The court has not yet ruled on the suit.
Montana
The state GOP announced earlier this month that it was formally challenging the eligibility of 6,000 people in Democratic-leaning counties, based in discrepancies in their addresses. After it emerged that among the challenged voters were a World War II veteran who had moved across town that year, and a member of the Army Reserve about to ship out to Kuwait, the move was condemned even by some prominent Republicans in the state. The challenge was withdrawn, and the man behind, it, Jacob Eaton, the party's executive director, quit.
Florida
In early September, Secretary of State Kurt Browning, a Republican, instructed election officials to reject voter registration applications that do not pass a computer match test. Voter rights groups say the system can disqualify voters based on nothing more than a missing middle initial on their voter form, and that the late date of the order could cause additional confusion. They fear the move could disenfranchise tens of thousands of legitimate voters. And in a rare case of a Republican making voting easier, Governor Charlie Crist yesterday ordered extended hours for early voting centers, after long lines were reported in many parts of the state.
Wisconsin
Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen filed suit against the state's election board, demanding that it confirm the eligibility of tens of thousands of new voters. In a recent interview with CNN, Van Hollen admitted that the GOP "may have asked lawyers in my office to file the lawsuit." A county court threw the suit out, but Van Hollen soon announced the formation of a "voter fraud task force", which would involve stationing 50 state prosecutors and other law-enforcement agents at the polls on election day, a move state Democrats have denounced as an effort to intimidate voters.
Colorado
A voting-rights group, filed a lawsuit against Republican Secretary of State Mike Coffman, alleging that over 35,000 voters were purged from the rolls illegally. The suit, which was heard in court today, claims that voters have been removed from the rolls based on a faulty system for identifying illegitimate voters, and within 90 days of the election -- both of which violate the federal Voting Rights Act. Coffman, who is running for the U.S. Congress in this election, denies that any rules were broken.



total b.s.....
 

Ernst

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there is a worm in my front yard, and it looks kind of blue, but not like most poor worms.
i changed the hay in my chicken coop but it rained the next day and got wet anyway.
That you gain prestige from countering is akin to popularity by mockery.
When you write the play, promote the players and do it all for free then you will be a real hero of the people until then you are but the fool.

Good luck in the big time as someone who is afraid to show their true identity.

Translation don't write checks you cannot honor. You draw on my account and don't put up equal risk. Hence an asshole who plays it safe all the time like a fucktard.
Am I wrong? What is your real name and where do you live?
 

Ernst

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Republican Voter Suppression: A Guide

By Kate Klonick and Zachary Roth - October 29, 2008, 7:19PM
There are so many Republican gambits designed to make voting more difficult -- specifically for Democrats, of course -- that it can be hard to keep track of them all. So here's a handy -- and by no means comprehensive -- guide to what's happening in some of the key swing states.
Ohio
The U.S. Supreme Court earlier this month denied a bid by the state GOP to force Democratic secretary of state Jennifer Brunner to provide local election officials with lists of new voters whose registration information did not match that on other government documents. Voting-rights advocates had feared that making Brunner hand over the lists could lead to a slew of GOP challenges, forcing hundreds of thousands of voters to cast provisional ballots. Republican leader (and Ohioan) John Boehner -- with help from the White House -- has asked the Department of Justice to step in, but few observers expect DOJ to take any action so close to the election.
New Mexico
The state GOP earlier this month held a press conference at which it released the names of 10 voters it said had voted fraudulently in a Democratic primary in June. After ACORN helped established that the voters, almost all Hispanic, were in fact legitimate, TPMmuckraker and others reported that GOP lawyer Pat Rogers apparently hired a private investigator, who intimidated some of the voters by going to their homes to question them about their voting status. Rogers, the P.I. and the state party are now being sued for voter intimidation by several voting-rights groups.
Indiana
The Lake County GOP sued to shut down early voting centers set up by the county election board in Democratic-leaning cities in the northern part of the county. A judge declined to shut down the sites, though an appeal is scheduled to be heard later this week. But in the meantime, early voting at the centers has been proceeding. In addition, the Republican secretary of state, Todd Rokita, has called on law enforcement to prosecute ACORN for submitting 1400 suspicious-looking voter-registration forms in the county.
Nevada
The chair of the state GOP wrote to Democratic Secretary of State Ross Miller, asking him to require newly registered voters to cast provisional ballots if they correct mismatches in their voter information at the polls. Miller responded with an interpretation of state law that rejected the GOP's request.



Pennsylvania
The state GOP has filed a lawsuit designed to cast doubt on 140,000 voter-registration applications submitted by ACORN in four counties. Among other things, it would require the state to provide additional provisional ballots in the counties at issue. Democratic Secretary of State pedro Cortes has called the "frivolous", saying it's designed to undermine confidence in the system. The court has not yet ruled on the suit.
Montana
The state GOP announced earlier this month that it was formally challenging the eligibility of 6,000 people in Democratic-leaning counties, based in discrepancies in their addresses. After it emerged that among the challenged voters were a World War II veteran who had moved across town that year, and a member of the Army Reserve about to ship out to Kuwait, the move was condemned even by some prominent Republicans in the state. The challenge was withdrawn, and the man behind, it, Jacob Eaton, the party's executive director, quit.
Florida
In early September, Secretary of State Kurt Browning, a Republican, instructed election officials to reject voter registration applications that do not pass a computer match test. Voter rights groups say the system can disqualify voters based on nothing more than a missing middle initial on their voter form, and that the late date of the order could cause additional confusion. They fear the move could disenfranchise tens of thousands of legitimate voters. And in a rare case of a Republican making voting easier, Governor Charlie Crist yesterday ordered extended hours for early voting centers, after long lines were reported in many parts of the state.
Wisconsin
Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen filed suit against the state's election board, demanding that it confirm the eligibility of tens of thousands of new voters. In a recent interview with CNN, Van Hollen admitted that the GOP "may have asked lawyers in my office to file the lawsuit." A county court threw the suit out, but Van Hollen soon announced the formation of a "voter fraud task force", which would involve stationing 50 state prosecutors and other law-enforcement agents at the polls on election day, a move state Democrats have denounced as an effort to intimidate voters.
Colorado
A voting-rights group, filed a lawsuit against Republican Secretary of State Mike Coffman, alleging that over 35,000 voters were purged from the rolls illegally. The suit, which was heard in court today, claims that voters have been removed from the rolls based on a faulty system for identifying illegitimate voters, and within 90 days of the election -- both of which violate the federal Voting Rights Act. Coffman, who is running for the U.S. Congress in this election, denies that any rules were broken.






total b.s.....



Originally Posted by abe supercro

Anyone have any experiences with these plants?
Are the yields still good with fake plants? Wouldn't this innovation provide savings with the nutrients budget? How much light do they need?






So lead us.. You whine and you offer no leadership ever.. What a lame noodle.
 

Ernst

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I have some latent hostility.


I feel better now.. React if you all must.

Ernst Berg Turlock Ca.
 
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