Setting LEDs at the right height to select phenos "thriving in intense light," killing the weak

Apostatize

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Hmm, that sounds like it requires patience or it's something to work toward over time. Selecting for resistance is quicker, perhaps that's why it appealed to me. Ok, so before I get too committed to this height, I'll see how they do. So far, I've mostly selected for smell, yield, and potency.
What's up, Wazzup? Outing yourself as a clown. I thought you were better than that.
 

Apostatize

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As you know, light is the major environmental variable used to drive photosynthesis in plants. However, if temperature, humidity, CO2, nutrient, or media-moisture levels are outside the optimum range for the plant species you are growing, photosynthesis will be limited. There is a principle of limiting factors that has to be considered when cultivating plants. Understanding how each factor will influence plant growth and development, along with the relationship between each variable, will help you make optimal decisions regarding your environmental conditions. Cultivation under high photosynthetic photon flux density (PPFD) using LED technology is an emerging technique, and depending on your plant-growth facility, there may be some environmental variables you need to adjust in order to achieve your cultivation goals
I don't know how I missed it (it's more likely I forgot), but Fluence's specs say right on them that their Rays should be mounted at least 6" from the canopy.... Whew, I'll have to pay attention to how plants respond but that suggests I'm not over-stepping too much since mine are between 6 and 10" away. That's a major relief. https://fluence.science/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/RAY-180327.pdf
 

Highlife42

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Sup man. Genuinely asking.. Id love to know why others get bent outa shape over wood chips in the grow room? Like, what are your questions or disbelief in this method? Implementing Co2 without sealed rooms nor artificial inject is possible. We all want optimum conditions to push the plants hard but affordable for all. Co2 starts AND completes the plant cycle to "digest" what we provide it. Weed plants are heavy eaters that need lots of Co2 to function better which can lead to LESS toxicities and deficiency with nutrients. IMO.

No the dude who said to put rotten stumps in your tent already pitted himself as that.
 

bk78

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Sup man. Genuinely asking.. Id love to know why others get bent outa shape over wood chips in the grow room? Like, what are your questions or disbelief in this method? Implementing Co2 without sealed rooms nor artificial inject is possible. We all want optimum conditions to push the plants hard but affordable for all. Co2 starts AND completes the plant cycle to "digest" what we provide it. Weed plants are heavy eaters that need lots of Co2 to function better which can lead to LESS toxicities and deficiency with nutrients. IMO.

The whole “put a bucket with wood chips” is a joke. You will get more co2 out of breathing in your tent daily. Let alone attract pests, or bring them in that way.


Have you actually ever grown cannabis before? This sounds like Facebook or growweedeasy type of stuff to me?
 

Highlife42

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The whole “put a bucket with wood chips” is a joke. You will get more co2 out of breathing in your tent daily. Let alone attract pests, or bring them in that way.


Have you actually ever grown cannabis before? This sounds like Facebook or growweedeasy type of stuff to me?
Lol. Peace bro. Your mindset is set. Have YOU ever grown cannabis before, 100% naturally??
 

Apostatize

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The whole “put a bucket with wood chips” is a joke. You will get more co2 out of breathing in your tent daily. Let alone attract pests, or bring them in that way.


Have you actually ever grown cannabis before? This sounds like Facebook or growweedeasy type of stuff to me?
Inexpensive (free). As long as it's sterile, I'll give it a shot. Like every adjustment/addition, I anticipate having to resolve initial hiccups/Monday morning-quarterbacking. Rate of decomposition (i.e., practicality/effectiveness) and ventilation are concerns for sure.

Recently, I added fans in both tents; the steady breeze alone should add CO2 somewhat, I'd hope. Trust but verify. I'm buying a CO2 monitor and will test in both rooms, under different conditions:
1) no fans (for one day),
2) fans only (after a day, after a week),
3) fans and wood chips (I'll measure once a week until bloom's over, next time from Day 1; how long until I noticed a bump; how long until I needed another bump).

What did it cost me? I also like that it allows me to do something organic since I grow without soil, in salts. Gotta admit, my full-line of GH products is money down the drain even if it works great -- it only works once....



Compost and Organic Growing Mediums
Decomposing organic materials like wood chips, hay, leaves, and manures release large amounts of CO2. Although you can capture CO2 from this decomposition, it is most often impractical for indoor growers. Piping indoors the CO2 and fumes from a compost pile is complicated, expensive, and more work than it is worth.
 
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Apostatize

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Damn I thought organic growers were awful before, now that’s confirmed 100%

Combine that with noob organic growers sheesh
What do you suggest for adding CO2 so your plants can thrive under high light intensity? Open to all suggestions, and I still consider you a reputable source of information, despite your somewhat obtuse delivery. lol, hopefully we're all here for the same general goal of promoting ways to grow the best buds based on a collective of personal experiences -- good, bad, embarrassing.

So, should I go straight to CO2 tanks; don't fuck around? Pedal all the way down/volume all the way up or nothing -- what do you do?
 
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bk78

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What do you suggest for adding CO2 so your plants can thrive under high light intensity?

Go straight to CO2 tanks, don't fuck around? Pedal all the way down/volume all the way up or nothing -- what do you do?
I’ve tested the bags, they do very little. All documented in my journal.

I don’t run co2, too much work to seal up my room.

I just let her buck, raw dawg style.

my ambient sits around 600ppm lights on, 800-900 lights off.


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Apostatize

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I’ve tested the bags, they do very little. All documented in my journal.

I don’t run co2, too much work to seal up my room.

I just let her buck, raw dawg style.

my ambient sits around 600ppm lights on, 800-900 lights off.


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Your space is very clean and well-organized. And my colas don't look like that yet.

Our approaches to plant structure are a little different -- see goal attached (online photo, I hang wine cork-hooks on limbs, whoever's plant it is didn't do that). I've had the best yields with Bruce Banner, California Orange Bud, and Grape Ape. BB and GA were really easy to grow, though.

And my stalks are usually way bigger than the photo. It's just an illustration of I guess more of a micro-grow lean to what I'm doing. Some of my individual buds are much bigger than the ones in the photo. Intuitively, if the canopy is flat and buds pretty much have equal exposure to light, you'd think your buds would generally be the same size, minimizing popcorn buds.

Since my lights are 66" long and I have ten 6" apart in the bigger tent, I was tempted to use 3 rows of 4, not 2; and then I cram up to 4 in the well below the shelves. With less overall plant mass (e.g., feet of branches without buds), I can put that many more plants on shelves. Whether there's enough plant to produce buds like you've got, that's a lesson I'll find out this year one way or the other.

But if you're achieving that (wow) with that range of CO2, I'll probably want to be there/close to it. Thanks.
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