The Vault’s Skywalker Auto Comparative Grow - in association with Mephisto Genetics

HydroRed

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Well sorry i havent been around much but i did harvest mine already had some issuses that keep me from taking pics and keeping up with posts. so i didnt weigh the final but id say a oz to 1.5 per plant. I dont have much lemon smell to mine like others have mine has a more og kush dominant smell to it i canntaste some lemony flavor while vaping it tho. over all id say smoke is very good smooth with a relaxing buzz that goes from head to body in about 30 min after burning it they turned into pretty tall plants without many big buds i would probably not run this auto again it just didnt perform the way i would had liked it to. but thanks again to the vault and mephisto for the chance to partake in this comparision good luck everyone hope you all get great smoke and good yeilds

@HydroRed sorry to hear about your plant brother hope you replace them with something good hows those mazars doing?

@Dr. Who looking forward to see what you do with your plants

Edit: i agree with @bertaluchi the high was neither couch lock or energetic it was more of a spacey what am i doing agian kinda high if that makes sense
I just scrapped the entire 8 plant grow. The blue mazar and the flash babylon were doing awesome but without having the 5 skywalkers the grow wasnt worth finishing with only 3 good plants. The skywalkers just didnt cut it. They were half the size of the others that were germinated at the exact same time and the skywalkers didnt root as fast once in the flood table either.
 

bertaluchi

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I just scrapped the entire 8 plant grow. The blue mazar and the flash babylon were doing awesome but without having the 5 skywalkers the grow wasnt worth finishing with only 3 good plants. The skywalkers just didnt cut it. They were half the size of the others that were germinated at the exact same time and the skywalkers didnt root as fast once in the flood table either.
That sux bro. Mine stayed small too. Definitely the smallest Mephisto strain I have ever grown and I have grown at least 6 strains of theirs. Might work great for a micro grow but they are really small if you have a room or a tent. Any idea what you are going to grow next?
 

thewanderer718

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Me to !!! I have one that is tall and stretchy and one that is very small
Neither shows any sizeable bud structure. I agree with @HydroRed if I did not have 8 outer plants growing I might have pulled the grow also. I love Mephisto Genetics but not sure about this Skywalker. only looking to harvest from 1.5 to 2 oz from one and 1 from the smaller. We will see how the high and taste is about a week to go on mine.
 

HydroRed

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That sux bro. Mine stayed small too. Definitely the smallest Mephisto strain I have ever grown and I have grown at least 6 strains of theirs. Might work great for a micro grow but they are really small if you have a room or a tent. Any idea what you are going to grow next?
And I was concerned about my small 3.5' headspace when I first began this auto grow lol. Since I had already been bushing out a Midnight Mass from Heavyweight for about 6-8 weeks I took cuts from it about 10 days ago when I had a feeling this auto run wasn't going to work out (glad I did). They are coming out of the bubble cloner and into the flood tables in the next day or 2. I haven't been able to find much concerning grows/journals/smoke reports on it other than Testiclees grew some out. He had a nice looking purple pheno he said was an enjoyable smoke that he didnt get tired of. This will work to fill the head stash until I can run other beans of what I've really been eager to get going (Plemon from Breeders Boutique, Honey Banana from Elemental, and Chocolate Skunk from 00 Seeds).
 

Mr black thumb

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What's going on guys? been trying to catch up on the thread lot of reading lol, I just watered at 1400 ppm this time I used some general hydroponic gotta love freebies, gotta stock up again this winter.. I have 3 that survived and all three are different, 1has long fat buds full of crystals about 2 ft tall and 1 that is full of popcorn buds that's every bit of 3 ft tall and the last one is short and every branch is as tall as the top bud. I have switched the lights to 13/11 to start flowering the other photo plants that I have been vegging with them all are praying to the hps God. Looking good guys, sorry hydro that you had to pull yours.
 

Dr. Who

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I just pulled everything. The skywalkers were so far behind everything else that I just cant justify having a grow with only 3 nice plants and 5 scrawny plants. Bottom line, I'm not willing to run for 2-1/2 months under 2000W of HID 20 hrs a day to only get an ounce off each plant. I should get a minimum of 1.5-2 zips per plant at my worst and this wasnt even close to possible with these. Best of luck with everyone elses plants and I hope for far bigger yields than I could have expected with mine.
Hmm, This post goes a L-O-N-G way to backing up my long held contention that running auto's for longer periods 18, 20, 24 hrs. Is simply not worth it! Most auto's I've run have been in that 1.25 - 1.5 zip range in yield.....Your simply spending too much to get too little a return....
Biggest Auto's I've ever run were Iranian Auto's for Dr Greenthumb.....Outdoors and early planted. Got 2 runs in that summer of the seeds provided. between 4+' and 5+' plants with average for the size yields. Say 3-4+ zips per. Not a bad buzz but, nothing to write home about.....

Seeds went into root riots yesterday! I expect 4 to rise and run as 5 did pop. Simply say one may not make it due to the law of averages...We'll see.

I WILL have pics in the afternoon on them.

A simple 30+ days feeding soil (I call it my starting soil) is built and ready to go. They will be up-potted as needed from Solo's to 1 gallons. If they begin bloom in the 1's they will be feed a "super" tea and top dressed to finish....The trans to a better soil may still happen, depending on how fast they start flowering.

Posting pics in around 6-7 hrs....See Ya!
 

UniDragon

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Hmm, This post goes a L-O-N-G way to backing up my long held contention that running auto's for longer periods 18, 20, 24 hrs. Is simply not worth it! Most auto's I've run have been in that 1.25 - 1.5 zip range in yield.....Your simply spending too much to get too little a return....
Biggest Auto's I've ever run were Iranian Auto's for Dr Greenthumb.....Outdoors and early planted. Got 2 runs in that summer of the seeds provided. between 4+' and 5+' plants with average for the size yields. Say 3-4+ zips per. Not a bad buzz but, nothing to write home about.....

Seeds went into root riots yesterday! I expect 4 to rise and run as 5 did pop. Simply say one may not make it due to the law of averages...We'll see.

I WILL have pics in the afternoon on them.

A simple 30+ days feeding soil (I call it my starting soil) is built and ready to go. They will be up-potted as needed from Solo's to 1 gallons. If they begin bloom in the 1's they will be feed a "super" tea and top dressed to finish....The trans to a better soil may still happen, depending on how fast they start flowering.

Posting pics in around 6-7 hrs....See Ya!
I think that it depends on the strain that you are growing. My AxT run was done in a Phototron, (remember those?), and I got 3.5 oz. off of a 1.5' plant. I also ran a Durga-Mata cross in a tent under exclusively HPS light with a light cycle of 18/6 throughout the entire grow and that plant turned out to be a beast. I think we got closer to 4 oz off of that plant. Within that same run, I had a AK47 cross and a Hiesenberg and they both had a estimated haul of 3 oz., and all of those were autos. So, my belief is that it is directly relative to the auto strain that you are growing. Just as a suggestion, take a look at this one: https://www.cannabis-seeds-store.co.uk/auto-flowering-seeds/dutch-passion/autoultimate-feminised-seeds/prod_6066.html. From what I have read, it's like the breeder dares you to try to mess up this plant when it grows; you can't! Some of the descriptions that I have read about this is that it has a ridiculous yield, grows under pretty much any and all conditions and really doesn't care if you feed it or not. I have never run one of these, just going off of what I have read.

I agree that the Skywalkers seem to be kinda small but that is probably characteristic of the strain not because it is an auto. You may consider crossing it with something else to make it grow bigger and thus give you a better, bigger yield. In fact, since this project has started I have been on the hunt for Chem #4 auto seeds to cross with one of these Skywalkers. Only because I know for a fact that if I am successful at crossing one with the other that I will have Dogwalker autos and that was one my best all-time favorite smokes. I'm not sure about size or yield, but the buzz was simply incredible; nothing like it.

Anyway, sorry for the long response and don't misunderstand me, I am not trying to pick a fight, just trying to offer my advice for what it is worth.

Good luck with your grow and I hope everything turns out better than you expected.
 

Dr. Who

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I think that it depends on the strain that you are growing. My AxT run was done in a Phototron, (remember those?), and I got 3.5 oz. off of a 1.5' plant. I also ran a Durga-Mata cross in a tent under exclusively HPS light with a light cycle of 18/6 throughout the entire grow and that plant turned out to be a beast. I think we got closer to 4 oz off of that plant. Within that same run, I had a AK47 cross and a Hiesenberg and they both had a estimated haul of 3 oz., and all of those were autos. So, my belief is that it is directly relative to the auto strain that you are growing. Just as a suggestion, take a look at this one: https://www.cannabis-seeds-store.co.uk/auto-flowering-seeds/dutch-passion/autoultimate-feminised-seeds/prod_6066.html. From what I have read, it's like the breeder dares you to try to mess up this plant when it grows; you can't! Some of the descriptions that I have read about this is that it has a ridiculous yield, grows under pretty much any and all conditions and really doesn't care if you feed it or not. I have never run one of these, just going off of what I have read.

I agree that the Skywalkers seem to be kinda small but that is probably characteristic of the strain not because it is an auto. You may consider crossing it with something else to make it grow bigger and thus give you a better, bigger yield. In fact, since this project has started I have been on the hunt for Chem #4 auto seeds to cross with one of these Skywalkers. Only because I know for a fact that if I am successful at crossing one with the other that I will have Dogwalker autos and that was one my best all-time favorite smokes. I'm not sure about size or yield, but the buzz was simply incredible; nothing like it.

Anyway, sorry for the long response and don't misunderstand me, I am not trying to pick a fight, just trying to offer my advice for what it is worth.

Good luck with your grow and I hope everything turns out better than you expected.

Oh no! I enjoyed your post! Your exactly right on the strain thing.....It's what their bred to do......I suspected the Skywalker to be about a 1.5 auto plant.....Most are. Others are breed not to be - like that one you point out.....Finding #4 straight runs = good luck!

Bartering for pollen if you know folks might work......Post in the seed strain section.....

Still not an "auto" guy though...just sounded fun to do.....Looking to see if the use of a high UV output light boosts the potency/affect of the normally "middle of the road quality" of autos...

We'll see soon enough .. eh?
 

thewanderer718

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I think that it depends on the strain that you are growing. My AxT run was done in a Phototron, (remember those?), and I got 3.5 oz. off of a 1.5' plant. I also ran a Durga-Mata cross in a tent under exclusively HPS light with a light cycle of 18/6 throughout the entire grow and that plant turned out to be a beast. I think we got closer to 4 oz off of that plant. Within that same run, I had a AK47 cross and a Hiesenberg and they both had a estimated haul of 3 oz., and all of those were autos. So, my belief is that it is directly relative to the auto strain that you are growing. Just as a suggestion, take a look at this one: https://www.cannabis-seeds-store.co.uk/auto-flowering-seeds/dutch-passion/autoultimate-feminised-seeds/prod_6066.html. From what I have read, it's like the breeder dares you to try to mess up this plant when it grows; you can't! Some of the descriptions that I have read about this is that it has a ridiculous yield, grows under pretty much any and all conditions and really doesn't care if you feed it or not. I have never run one of these, just going off of what I have read.

I agree that the Skywalkers seem to be kinda small but that is probably characteristic of the strain not because it is an auto. You may consider crossing it with something else to make it grow bigger and thus give you a better, bigger yield. In fact, since this project has started I have been on the hunt for Chem #4 auto seeds to cross with one of these Skywalkers. Only because I know for a fact that if I am successful at crossing one with the other that I will have Dogwalker autos and that was one my best all-time favorite smokes. I'm not sure about size or yield, but the buzz was simply incredible; nothing like it.

Anyway, sorry for the long response and don't misunderstand me, I am not trying to pick a fight, just trying to offer my advice for what it is worth.

Good luck with your grow and I hope everything turns out better than you expected.
I also agree with you i ran the AxT and pulled 4.2 oz of some of the most dank weed, its has everything to do with breeder and genetics. Also ran 18/6 the whole time.
 

UniDragon

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Oh no! I enjoyed your post! Your exactly right on the strain thing.....It's what their bred to do......I suspected the Skywalker to be about a 1.5 auto plant.....Most are. Others are breed not to be - like that one you point out.....Finding #4 straight runs = good luck!

Bartering for pollen if you know folks might work......Post in the seed strain section.....

Still not an "auto" guy though...just sounded fun to do.....Looking to see if the use of a high UV output light boosts the potency/affect of the normally "middle of the road quality" of autos...

We'll see soon enough .. eh?
Ok cool! I'll post something in the Seed Strain Section and see what happens. Awesome! Thanks! You may have just made my whole day!
 

Dr. Who

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OK then here's the little one's up and out!
One still has it's "helmet" on.. I'll wait 24hrs to see if she needs help....5 for 5 is good..

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Hmm, seems that one of them likes the kelp starter water so much it has a root jumping for joy....lol.

Notice that the light is proper for the seedling to not s-t-r-e-t-c-h...2' 4 bulb mixed spectrum T5 HO at 18" from the plants.....No need to raise it as they grow to transplant time...The other point is how fast the little stems are going nicely green. The kelp supplies what I feel is the perfect nutrient balance for seedlings....

Trans at the point where roots start to emerge from the sides or bottom of the Rot Riots....

Next shots at second node - or up potting to solo's. What ever comes first! maybe a quickie in between....

See Ya!
 
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VenomGrower6990

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i think they released these before they had the phenotype very stable, because my buds look fuck all like yours. mine are a mass of foxtails, they look fairly solid till you look close and realize thats not one large bud its 4 small foxtails running together.
View attachment 3833957 View attachment 3833958 same bud
I agree Roger. Some of the buds were solid and others looked solid until you got to looking at them. Still some pretty good buds came from these plants. Very Frosty and very sticky also.
 

VenomGrower6990

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Right on! That all 3 plants in the last pic? How were the terpines when you were trimming & manicuring?
Yep HydroRed that is all 3 plants trimmed up. As for the terpines it smells like pine and lemons but kind of has a slight hint of sweetness to them too. Had someone say they smelled like Rhubarb if thats how you spell it. Wondering how they will smell after they dry and have a good jar cure. I will let you guys know what they yielded after they are dry.
 

23Jumpman23

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Yep HydroRed that is all 3 plants trimmed up. As for the terpines it smells like pine and lemons but kind of has a slight hint of sweetness to them too. Had someone say they smelled like Rhubarb if thats how you spell it. Wondering how they will smell after they dry and have a good jar cure. I will let you guys know what they yielded after they are dry.
How many days did you take it at by chance? im on day 63 and still have a while...
 
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