US Federal Debt Is Expanding At The Fastest Rate Since The Crisis

Rob Roy

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So, Mrs. Bigfoot doesn't let you touch any real drugs or what? What's wrong with Rx? Even street Rx were prescribed to someone, so they must be safe...
Mrs. Bigfoot takes good care of me. She has a good background in fitness and promoting natural alternatives.

Neither of us, are inclined to use Rx stuff or seek permission if we were inclined to use them.
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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If you can't have an honest conversation about these topics, why bother engaging in it?
nice dodge,instead of backing up your assertions an uncorrupted bipartisan government can be had with the current political climate you accuse me of being dishonest.

as to the portion of your post I quoted its amazing,I was thinking the exact same thing only in reverse,your the one who's avoiding an honest conversation about your assertion .
 

UncleBuck

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nice dodge,instead of backing up your assertions an uncorrupted bipartisan government can be had with the current political climate you accuse me of being dishonest.

as to the portion of your post I quoted its amazing,I was thinking the exact same thing only in reverse,your the one who's avoiding an honest conversation about your assertion .
no president in history has lowered the deficit more than obama has.
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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After one's first million in income, the top tier should be 50%, NO deductions. Estate taxes the same. Capital gains tax the same. Corporate taxes THE SAME.
Our upper class has stolen our nation's wealth for themselves, by buying themselves dramatically lower tax rates than the rest of us.
THIS MUST END.
If it doesn't, our society will fray and tear right along the ever sharper divide between rich and poor and the ship of state founders in revolution.
And don't think it can't happen here. I'm no revolutionary, I fear one and its consequences. Hence my sense of urgency.
the current political leaders on both sides have proven by their actions to have little care about us little people,I suspect they'd rather burn what's left of Americas economy to the ground before they willingly give up the gravy train .

if such plans were implemented the entire lobby industry would be out of business overnight, the billions in donations & gifts they dole out would also dry up overnight & that's the incentive government has to keep the gravy train going the way it is right now .
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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I've not watched the video, but am familiar with the woman. A friend interviewed her years ago.
I've attended one of her lectures about 10 years ago & felt sick after it started to sink in,but what would she know after working inside the federal education depertmant for decades & teaching for 50 years, its like nobody wants to hear it even though Americas public education system has became the joke of all
1st world country's .
 

squarepush3r

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no president in history has lowered the deficit more than obama has.
old data



2016 is back on track to be top 3 years ever for highest deficit. Even if you count 2009/2010 as Bush legacy for high deficit, how do you explain the 2016 Obama high deficit? Your argument looks silly then.
 

UncleBuck

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old data



2016 is back on track to be top 3 years ever for highest deficit. Even if you count 2009/2010 as Bush legacy for high deficit, how do you explain the 2016 Obama high deficit? Your argument looks silly then.
did you plagiarize that from fuhrerious88blog.com as well?

:lol:
 

see4

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nice dodge,instead of backing up your assertions an uncorrupted bipartisan government can be had with the current political climate you accuse me of being dishonest.

as to the portion of your post I quoted its amazing,I was thinking the exact same thing only in reverse,your the one who's avoiding an honest conversation about your assertion .
What assertion have I made?
 

Rob Roy

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I've attended one of her lectures about 10 years ago & felt sick after it started to sink in,but what would she know after working inside the federal education depertmant for decades & teaching for 50 years, its like nobody wants to hear it even though Americas public education system has became the joke of all
1st world country's .

You may want to check out the school sucks podcast if you aren't already aware of it.
 

Grandpapy

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Commerce will dictate what sort education American should have.

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Rob Roy

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The Republican mantra would have you believe all of this is in your hands, all you need to do is just be successful. Whatever the fuck that means.
The Democratic mantra would have you believe all of this is in everyone's hands, we just need to elect the right people to office to change the rules of the game. Whatever the fuck that means.

You are right ttystikk, this isn't sustainable.

What do we do?

Discarding your erroneous assumptions would be a good start.

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Rob Roy

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Don't argue for the sake of arguing. If you've got a point to make; make it. You can start by attempting to refute my "assumptions".
Excellent advice your Excellency.

Okay, let's start with my assumptions about your views.

Do you assume all people should have the same rights? I assume that is a yes?
 

see4

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Excellent advice your Excellency.

Okay, let's start with my assumptions about your views.

Do you assume all people should have the same rights? I assume that is a yes?
Yes, every human should have the same basic human rights. The question you pose is quite leading. Do I think every human should have the exact same rights as every other human beyond the basic human rights? No. Some humans are elected or chosen to take on responsibilities that others are not capable of doing and therefore have rights beyond basic human rights.
 

Big_Lou

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END MONEY IN POLITICS
TAX THE RICH
DEMOLISH SILLY PUBLIC MASTURBATION LAWS
TAX CORPORATIONS
DISARM THE POLICE
DECAPITATE DRUMPF
BREAK UP BIG MEDIA
END TRANSNATIONAL EXTORTION, aka 'Free Trade'
END UNLIMITED SUBSIDIES
SEND BIEBER TO THE COUNTY CLINK FOR 6 MONTHS TO BE USED AS A 'TWINK DOLL'

That should do for a start.
 

Rob Roy

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Yes, every human should have the same basic human rights. The question you pose is quite leading. Do I think every human should have the exact same rights as every other human beyond the basic human rights? No. Some humans are elected or chosen to take on responsibilities that others are not capable of doing and therefore have rights beyond basic human rights.

I'm sorry if we are to have this conversation, you'll first need your statements to be in agreement with themselves, even if they are wrong.

You answered yes, then went on to describe an exception to your answer.

If you believed people have equal rights, you would necessarily believe nobody has superior rights, since the two are mutually exclusive not to mention mathematically impossible.

Would you like to try again or will you rest your argument on the spindly legs of something so heavy with illogic?
 

see4

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I'm sorry if we are to have this conversation, you'll first need your statements to be in agreement with themselves, even if they are wrong.

You answered yes, then went on to describe an exception to your answer.

If you believed people have equal rights, you would necessarily believe nobody has superior rights, since the two are mutually exclusive not to mention mathematically impossible.

Would you like to try again or will you rest your argument on the spindly legs of something so heavy with illogic?
No Rob. I won't play by your rules.
The answer to your previous and quite ambiguous question is "yes and no". If you'd like to refine your previous question, I'd be happy to answer it directly.

Again, refine your previous question and I will be happy to answer it directly.
 
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