55% chance of Trump beating Clinton according to 538

SamsonsRiddle

SamsonsRiddle

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UncleBuck said:
why no mention of all the workers he left high and dry?

why no mention of all the small businesses he put out of business by ripping them off?

when you count all the people he has royally screwed, his net job contribution is way, way into the negative.
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and what about how the clinton foundation ripped off Haitians after the earthquake?
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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I don't think blaming "evil" is productive. It goes no where but an abstract and subjective definition of "evil", most likely rooted in Manichean tradition. It's an outdated term. Why does Hillary Clinton do what she does? "She's pure evil". See that doesn't go anywhere.

I think Hillary does what she does because she's "compromised". Now, rather than making a cross with my fingers, I'm digging into her donor history and cross-referencing political appointments to Clinton Foundation trustees. See, that went somewhere concrete. "Evil" is just a word.
 
SamsonsRiddle

SamsonsRiddle

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UncleBuck said:
oh, poor desperate bible thumper wants a distraction but has no facts to present whatsoever.
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I see where you get all your political information, like most hillary supporters





For example, the Clinton Foundation selected Clayton Homes, a construction company owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, to build temporary shelters in Haiti. Buffett is an active member of the Clinton Global Initiative who has donated generously to the Clintons as well as the Clinton Foundation. The contract was supposed to be given through the normal United Nations bidding process, with the deal going to the lowest bidder who met the project’s standards. UN officials said, however, that the contract was never competitively bid for. Clayton offered to build “hurricane-proof trailers” but what they actually delivered turned out to be a disaster. The trailers were structurally unsafe, with high levels of formaldehyde and insulation coming out of the walls. There were problems with mold and fumes. The stifling heat inside made Haitians sick and many of them abandoned the trailers because they were ill-constructed and unusable. The Clintons also funneled $10 million in federal loans to a firm called InnoVida, headed by Clinton donor Claudio Osorio. Osorio had loaded its board with Clinton cronies, including longtime Clinton ally General Wesley Clark; Hillary’s 2008 finance director Jonathan Mantz; and Democratic fundraiser Chris Korge who has helped raise millions for the Clintons. Normally the loan approval process takes months or even years. But in this case, a government official wrote, “Former President Bill Clinton is personally in contact with the company to organize its logistical and support needs. And as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton has made available State Department resources to assist with logistical arrangements.” InnoVida had not even provided an independently audited financial report that is normally a requirement for such applications. This requirement, however, was waived. On the basis of the Clinton connection, InnoVida’s application was fast-tracked and approved in two weeks. The company, however, defaulted on the loan and never built any houses. An investigation revealed that Osorio had diverted company funds to pay for his Miami Beach mansion, his Maserati, and his Colorado ski chalet. He pleaded guilty to wire fraud and money laundering in 2013, and is currently serving a twelve-year prison term on fraud charges related to the loan.

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SamsonsRiddle

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Then there is the strange and somehow predictable involvement of Hillary Clinton’s brother Hugh Rodham. Rodham put in an application for $22 million from the Clinton Foundation to build homes on ten thousand acres of land that he said a “guy in Haiti” had “donated” to him. “I deal through the Clinton Foundation,” Rodham told the New York Times. “I hound my brother-in-law because it’s his fund that we’re going to get our money from.” Rodham said he expected to net $1 million personally on the deal. Unfortunately, his application didn’t go through. Rodham had better luck, however, on a second Haitian deal. He mysteriously found himself on the advisory board of a U.S. mining company called VCS. This by itself is odd because Rodham’s resume lists no mining experience; rather, Rodham is a former private detective and prison guard. The mining company, however, seems to have recognized Rodham’s value. They brought him on board in October 2013 to help secure a valuable gold mining permit in Haiti. Rodham was promised a “finder’s fee” if he could land the contract. Sure enough, he did. For the first time in 50 years, Haiti awarded two new gold mining permits and one of them went to the company that had hired Hillary’s brother. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Clintons don’t care about Haiti. Yet it seems clear that Haitian welfare is not their priority. The deal provoked outrage in the Haitian Senate. “Neither Bill Clinton nor the brother of Hillary Clinton are individuals who share the interest of the Haitian people,” said Haitian mining representative Samuel Nesner. “They are part of the elite class who are operating to exploit the Haitian people.”
 
testiclees

testiclees

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
I don't think blaming "evil" is productive. It goes no where but an abstract and subjective definition of "evil", most likely rooted in Manichean tradition. It's an outdated term. Why does Hillary Clinton do what she does? "She's pure evil". See that doesn't go anywhere.

I think Hillary does what she does because she's "compromised". Now, rather than making a cross with my fingers, I'm digging into her donor history and cross-referencing political appointments to Clinton Foundation trustees. See, that went somewhere concrete. "Evil" is just a word.
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"Going somewhere" where it's going nowhere but it came right out of your ass. " a cross with your fingers" ? you're a witless ass,
Take a learning oppty and listen to Bill. he's explaining the diff between fantasy and history.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/videos/dnc-livestream-watch-bill-clintons-speech-on-day-2-w430968
 
testiclees

testiclees

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SamsonsRiddle said:
Then there is the strange and somehow predictable involvement of Hillary Clinton’s brother Hugh Rodham. Rodham put in an application for $22 million from the Clinton Foundation to build homes on ten thousand acres of land that he said a “guy in Haiti” had “donated” to him. “I deal through the Clinton Foundation,” Rodham told the New York Times. “I hound my brother-in-law because it’s his fund that we’re going to get our money from.” Rodham said he expected to net $1 million personally on the deal. Unfortunately, his application didn’t go through. Rodham had better luck, however, on a second Haitian deal. He mysteriously found himself on the advisory board of a U.S. mining company called VCS. This by itself is odd because Rodham’s resume lists no mining experience; rather, Rodham is a former private detective and prison guard. The mining company, however, seems to have recognized Rodham’s value. They brought him on board in October 2013 to help secure a valuable gold mining permit in Haiti. Rodham was promised a “finder’s fee” if he could land the contract. Sure enough, he did. For the first time in 50 years, Haiti awarded two new gold mining permits and one of them went to the company that had hired Hillary’s brother. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Clintons don’t care about Haiti. Yet it seems clear that Haitian welfare is not their priority. The deal provoked outrage in the Haitian Senate. “Neither Bill Clinton nor the brother of Hillary Clinton are individuals who share the interest of the Haitian people,” said Haitian mining representative Samuel Nesner. “They are part of the elite class who are operating to exploit the Haitian people.”
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Are you getting this shit straight from RT? It has that same $.25 a post desperation feel.
 
SamsonsRiddle

SamsonsRiddle

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
I don't think blaming "evil" is productive. It goes no where but an abstract and subjective definition of "evil", most likely rooted in Manichean tradition. It's an outdated term. Why does Hillary Clinton do what she does? "She's pure evil". See that doesn't go anywhere.

I think Hillary does what she does because she's "compromised". Now, rather than making a cross with my fingers, I'm digging into her donor history and cross-referencing political appointments to Clinton Foundation trustees. See, that went somewhere concrete. "Evil" is just a word.
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I never said anything like she's pure evil, as the facts of what she has done behind close doors (and right in the public's face) are the fruits by which she is known. Her fruits are evil, and the evidence proves much more evil than good coming from this lady.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SamsonsRiddle said:
I never said anything like she's pure evil, as the facts of what she has done behind close doors (and right in the public's face) are the fruits by which she is known. Her fruits are evil, and the evidence proves much more evil than good coming from this lady.
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yeah, being careless with her emails totally outweighs 8 million children who now have health insurance and a reduction in global nuclear arms.

why? because the bible.
 
SamsonsRiddle

SamsonsRiddle

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
That's how leftists operate. The only refuge they have is audacity at this point.
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these aren't even real leftists. no real leftist really believes that hillary is a champion for anything other than a globalist agenda to drive the people against each other. she knows if they continue to drive us against each other, then we will forget how much the government keeps fucking the people.
 
testiclees

testiclees

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SamsonsRiddle said:
these aren't even real leftists. no real leftist really believes that hillary is a champion for anything other than a globalist agenda to drive the people against each other. she knows if they continue to drive us against each other, then we will forget how much the government keeps fucking the people.
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"to drive the people ... what? Get Milli Asscraft to give you an Asscraft suppository. You're badly backed up.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
That's how leftists operate. The only refuge they have is audacity at this point.
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audacity is trying to condemn hillary for working with a man who has a 100% rating with the NAACP while completely ignoring the fact that the KKK is currently doing their best to get your guy elected.

words have meanings you white nationalist POS.
 
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