MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

[nsbudca]

so who has a criminal record for legally growing using non lp mj? Simple question. The courts can't stop cops from being over zealous and going on illigal raids of legal grows. If you're CONVICTED then you can loose you job, house, kids ect ect. No one is being convicted. Not a tough concept to wrap your head around now is it.

Is it tough for you to read? lolol... i clearly said they were not convicted. but clearly the law has a hard time distinguishing the difference between legal users and drug dealers. i said "they weren't jailed, but it still fucked up their shit"

My cousin/uncle had the police knock on thier door, only to open it up and find cops holding their weapons and saying they had a warrant. they allowed them to show their ATP/PPL's and nothing ever came of it. not the worst that could have happened but still a little unnerving ...nobody likes guns in their face.


Wilcox got destroyed in every single way when they raided him.

yeah nobody got convicted.. but getting your home invaded and all of your hard work destroyed isn't exactly peaches and cream.

Not such a hard concept to wrap your head around now is it?

 

[Gmack420]

Is it tough for you to read? lolol... i clearly said they were not convicted. but clearly the law has a hard time distinguishing the difference between legal users and drug dealers. i said "they weren't jailed, but it still fucked up their shit"

My cousin/uncle had the police knock on thier door, only to open it up and find cops holding their weapons and saying they had a warrant. they allowed them to show their ATP/PPL's and nothing ever came of it. not the worst that could have happened but still a little unnerving ...nobody likes guns in their face.


Wilcox got destroyed in every single way when they raided him.

yeah nobody got convicted.. but getting your home invaded and all of your hard work destroyed isn't exactly peaches and cream.

Not such a hard concept to wrap your head around now is it?

You replied to my question. Your reply comfirmed what I was saying is correct but you said it in a way implying I was incorrect. I cant speak to why police do what they do. My only claim is the fear mongeing need to stop.,you will not Be convicted for possession if you're a legit mmj user and choose to not go to a lp for your meds. Don't twist what I'm saying. Don't muddy the water. I will say it again, show me someone who has been convicted of a criminal offence in Canada for the possession of mmj sourced from any Canadian source other then a lp. You can't show me any because there is none. I'm sorry you have to pay $280 a oz for quality meds on the bm. I'm sorry you can't afford the proper amount of meds you need and had to get a tiny scrip just to be legal. Really that sucks. It's never going to change for you if you send your money to the lp's.

 

[nsbudca]

You replied to my question. Your reply comfirmed what I was saying is correct but you said it in a way implying I was incorrect. I cant speak to why police do what they do. My only claim is the fear mongeing need to stop.,you will not Be convicted for possession if you're a legit mmj user and choose to not go to a lp for your meds. Don't twist what I'm saying. Don't muddy the water. I will say it again, show me someone who has been convicted of a criminal offence in Canada for the possession of mmj sourced from any Canadian source other then a lp. You can't show me any because there is none. I'm sorry you have to pay $280 a oz for quality meds on the bm. I'm sorry you can't afford the proper amount of meds you need and had to get a tiny scrip just to be legal. Really that sucks. It's never going to change for you if you send your money to the lp's.

I don't really agree with most aspects of the MMPR.. i'm not totally pro LP.. but who i'm with right now is working for me. Tweed, PNP, Tilray.. total bs. fucking idiot's.

Yeah theres a stupid mark up on it from Canna Farms..but it's usually really good medicine i get from them and it's clean and not irradiated.. i feel terrible for the patients that cant even get out of bed in the morning without their meds because they can't afford it. I actually am pretty much in favor of an MMJ program that can combine the MMAR and MMPR to ensure patients have the ability to access their meds any way they want.

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

Wether you like it or not the MMPR is here to stay, not much you can do about that. I believe/hope that the courts allow former MMAR participants to be grandfathered and allowed to keep growing for THEMSELVES. The two can run simultaneously, but the MMAR growers need to be regulated and inspected, I know for fact and have seen it in person, the abuse of the MMAR. Not saying all MMAR abused the system, but in BC the majority of large scale grows were shady, and purely for profit hiding behind their pink slips. "Seriously officer, these 500 lights are for my personal grow" ya right! Oh, and the poisons they use to control pests, some scary shit.

Itsme.

After bashing me and telling me to shut the fuck up for having a civil opinion about LP's, hours later you attack and discredit the mmar growers? Seriously? Why should someone with a mmar grow license be limited to growing for THEMSELVES? Why would it matter to you if I grew enough to sell to a CC or to another patient, other than loss of profit for the LP? Why should you care if my garden is inspected?...how does that affect your life? Question...were/are you a mmar grower, or just an 'internet expert?' I'm sure you have all kinda facts about the evil BC 'large-scale' grows being the scourge of society. Most medical grows were for 1 or 2 patients, the plant limits were the fault of HC. What is so incredibly different or intrinsically evil of allowing Chris to grow his own medicine, or even sell some to qualified patients to offset costs, compared to what the LP's are doing? And as far as my weed being 'scary shit'... I've never had a recall or a need to irradiate.

 

[itsmehigh]

After bashing me and telling me to shut the fuck up for having a civil opinion about LP's, hours later you attack and discredit the mmar growers? Seriously? Why should someone with a mmar grow license be limited to growing for THEMSELVES? Why would it matter to you if I grew enough to sell to a CC or to another patient, other than loss of profit for the LP? Why should you care if my garden is inspected?...how does that affect your life? Question...were/are you a mmar grower, or just an 'internet expert?' I'm sure you have all kinda facts about the evil BC 'large-scale' grows being the scourge of society. Most medical grows were for 1 or 2 patients, the plant limits were the fault of HC. What is so incredibly different or intrinsically evil of allowing Chris to grow his own medicine, or even sell some to qualified patients to offset costs, compared to what the LP's are doing? And as far as my weed being 'scary shit'... I've never had a recall or a need to irradiate.

I apologize Chris, I never meant to direct anything towards you. But from my first hand experience in BC I have seen many MMAR participants abuse the system, not saying all. But a lot wrecked it for the MMAR. Just saying if you got 60 lights burning it ain't personal. If your selling you excess then you gram per day count is way off,or plant count, and your fraudulently abusing, taking advantage the system. To blame HC for letting you grow more than you need is crazy, You asked for that number. The whole idea of the MMAR was to allow people to grow for THEMSELVES ,or to grow COMPASIONATLY for someone who couldn't, not to have a production facility, and cover your cost. That's no different than an LP. Don't get me wrong the only solution is to let everybody grow, sick or not, problem solved.

Peace

Itsme.

 

[gb123]

All systems will have people who take advantage of them.
That's what we have Law enforcement for. To catch the ones that do it illegally.

To tell the ones who do it the right way that they must stop because of a few bad seeds? PPPPPHHHHHTTTT
Go weed out the bad seeds you fucks. That's your job!
Don't make patients pay for your lack of will to do the fucking leg work!!!!!!!
Lazy doughnut eating cunts, at least the ones I know anyway.

 

[CannaReview]

My guess is it will be ordered to be reworked...I think the courts will give them a year to come up with a workable model. In a year a new model will role out. Some people will like it, others wont. The new model will get challenged and be in court...it won't end...

Untill the gov follows in the foot steps of the US states that legalized it LP's are doomed. I know lots of people that smoke say 15 that

All systems will have people who take advantage of them.
That's what we have Law enforcement for. To catch the ones that do it illegally.

To tell the ones who do it the right way that they must stop because of a few bad seeds? PPPPPHHHHHTTTT
Go weed out the bad seeds you fucks. That's your job!
Don't make patients pay for your lack of will to do the fucking leg work!!!!!!!
Lazy doughnut eating cunts, at least the ones I know anyway.

That problem is now solved. Most of the big MMAR abusers are now working for the LP's or financially tied to them.

 

[gb123]

True enough,,,, then it's a rather mute point that any enforcement is needed.
but now what the hell are they going to use the armored trucks on?
They look cool but are we expecting civil unrest in the near future?
It would seem so. Get those jails going cause we have a ton of new laws no one knows about that they can put you in the slammer for.

 

[gb123]

Untill the gov follows in the foot steps of the US states that legalized it LP's are doomed. I know lots of people that smoke say 15 that.

They are already doomed. Can't stay afloat with out a product. Investors will drop like flys from a sinking pile of crap.
They'll just be bought up by ones already licensed. Simple shit. Already happening.
They want only a few maybe three. Easy to control three.
1000 LP's?? ... not ever going to happen. Never was. There isn't enough time in 100 years to cover the BS that would go along with this type of deal.
Yeup,,,, Harper learned long ago how to be a hypocrite and pull the wool over every ones eyes.

 

[bigmanc]

I apologize Chris, I never meant to direct anything towards you. But from my first hand experience in BC I have seen many MMAR participants abuse the system, not saying all. But a lot wrecked it for the MMAR. Just saying if you got 60 lights burning it ain't personal. If your selling you excess then you gram per day count is way off,or plant count, and your fraudulently abusing, taking advantage the system. To blame HC for letting you grow more than you need is crazy, You asked for that number. The whole idea of the MMAR was to allow people to grow for THEMSELVES ,or to grow COMPASIONATLY for someone who couldn't, not to have a production facility, and cover your cost. That's no different than an LP. Don't get me wrong the only solution is to let everybody grow, sick or not, problem solved.

Peace

Itsme.

didn't you say you had a 200 light mmar grow? I believe it's 4 patients max per property. If so, you had excess and it didn't leave your hands for free. If I'm right with the 200 lights your electricity per month should have been much more then 10k and you probably had over 1000 plants. ..maybe 2000. To tell me the product went to 4 patients is a little far fetched. Anyways...just hypothetical thinking...right?

 

[bigmanc]

Sorry my buddies 70k grow ran him roughly 5800$ in hydro. ..ya those 200 lights are about 15k a month...200k'ish in hydro a year isn't compassionate. 2000 plants now seems on the low side for 200 lights...

 

[Gmack420]

didn't you say you had a 200 light mmar grow? I believe it's 4 patients max per property. If so, you had excess and it didn't leave your hands for free. If I'm right with the 200 lights your electricity per month should have been much more then 10k and you probably had over 1000 plants. ..maybe 2000. To tell me the product went to 4 patients is a little far fetched. Anyways...just hypothetical thinking...right?

I beleive in magic

 

[GrowRock]

All LP's and wannabes are just like the governments refer madness propoganda instead its....dirty bm cc weed or if you want to be legal and not lose your children really and you assholes want to tell patient to quit whinning the mmpr is hear to stay.. Well I have magic beans for ya and a golden goose!!!! and I don't mean us patient to all you LP's out there lol

Peace

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

I apologize Chris, I never meant to direct anything towards you. But from my first hand experience in BC I have seen many MMAR participants abuse the system, not saying all. But a lot wrecked it for the MMAR. Just saying if you got 60 lights burning it ain't personal. If your selling you excess then you gram per day count is way off,or plant count, and your fraudulently abusing, taking advantage the system. To blame HC for letting you grow more than you need is crazy, You asked for that number. The whole idea of the MMAR was to allow people to grow for THEMSELVES ,or to grow COMPASIONATLY for someone who couldn't, not to have a production facility, and cover your cost. That's no different than an LP. Don't get me wrong the only solution is to let everybody grow, sick or not, problem solved.

Peace

Itsme.

No worries! I know the abuse happened, but in my opinion it was justified except in the 'monster grows'. The mmar growers are the reason we have access to compassion clubs. The clubs need to get their product from somewhere, the cops turned a blind eye except for the blatant abuses. I have a 49 plant license, but never have more than 25 growing due to space and lights. I supply my needs with that and help out a friend every now and then. I don't need any interference from any government agency because of it. The reason I blame HC for the plant count is simple. While my script is for 10g/day, 49 plants would greatly exceed that and 25 is about right for what I use. Iwould be happy with the same script, but a 25 plant limit. I didn't ask for it. In the perfect world, marijuana would be as strictly regulated and controlled as tomatoes!

 

[gb123]

200 lights or a possible( not with an LP) 200 000 grams per watt every 60 days for a partial cost of 30 g's over that time...plus plus...
12 million very possible in a year!!!!
Average!

No spread sheets needed with simple business.

 

[bigmanc]

cant fund a LP app with hopes and dreams...they all came from MMAR. You hear that guy from Medmarri or whatever it was. He had 14 locations with 4 patients each haahah

 

[itsmehigh]

didn't you say you had a 200 light mmar grow? I believe it's 4 patients max per property. If so, you had excess and it didn't leave your hands for free. If I'm right with the 200 lights your electricity per month should have been much more then 10k and you probably had over 1000 plants. ..maybe 2000. To tell me the product went to 4 patients is a little far fetched. Anyways...just hypothetical thinking...right?

Never said I was an angel, I was a part of the problem, no doubt about it. I was strictly the gardener, (DG). 100% of what I grew went to the patients, I was just tickled pink to be in charge of the facility, a dream job, my garden was my gratification. I was modestly compensated for my time 2k a month for producing 75lbs a month, it was never about the money. I had up to 900 plants, 3 195 plant and a 292 plant license. It cost aprox. $20k a month to run the site. I also helped set up about a dozen other sites pro bono, I love growing and designing and building gardens, it's what I do, it's who I am. I am a pharmer, always have been, always will be. 25 years of full time hands on cannabis cultivating. Call me a hypocrite, but all I want to do is grow, plain and simple. If that means being in the MMPR than so be it. Currently I have designed 4 MMPR facilities, and advised/consulted on the grow systems, and site design. I have also been approached by companies as far away as Florida to help design their sites. I now work with architects, engineers and contractors of all trades educating them of cannabis cultivating and facility design. I got nothing to hide.

Itsme.

 

[itsmehigh]

some of my work

 

[R.Raider]

nice!

 

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