New Wisconsin voter ID Law

schuylaar

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When you read this thread and threads like it, you'll notice a common theme amongst those who are against ID. It's the integrity of the vote that is the concern, it's that there "might" be less democrat voters.

It's odd, the ID law would be for all voters, not just dems, but there are a few who don't see it that way.
it's about the disenfranchised GW and you know that:wall:
 

ginwilly

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it's about the disenfranchised GW and you know that:wall:
It's about the disenfranchise of democrat voters. That's why you guys are against it. If pubs were the people most likely to not have a job, have an ID and would say "fuck it" if they had to work a little to vote, I think the vast majority would be on board.

If it weren't so obviously in favor of one side, I would think both sides would agree that ID is a simple solution to "some" of the problems. It just so happens to favor greatly one side, making the other against it.

I still think the state's that require ID to vote, should pay for the first ID. Not paying for it admittedly plays in the hands of pubs and on this point they are being dicks.
 

schuylaar

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It's about the disenfranchise of democrat voters. That's why you guys are against it. If pubs were the people most likely to not have a job, have an ID and would say "fuck it" if they had to work a little to vote, I think the vast majority would be on board.

If it weren't so obviously in favor of one side, I would think both sides would agree that ID is a simple solution to "some" of the problems. It just so happens to favor greatly one side, making the other against it.

I still think the state's that require ID to vote, should pay for the first ID. Not paying for it admittedly plays in the hands of pubs and on this point they are being dicks.
you should NOT have to pay for something that is a right..social security is NOT a right and the card is free..why? can anyone explain this?
 

Doer

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It's about the disenfranchise of democrat voters. That's why you guys are against it. If pubs were the people most likely to not have a job, have an ID and would say "fuck it" if they had to work a little to vote, I think the vast majority would be on board.

If it weren't so obviously in favor of one side, I would think both sides would agree that ID is a simple solution to "some" of the problems. It just so happens to favor greatly one side, making the other against it.

I still think the state's that require ID to vote, should pay for the first ID. Not paying for it admittedly plays in the hands of pubs and on this point they are being dicks.
How can the vast majority be on board when most people will only vote if stirred up, iow, rarely, but not never?

Trying to force registration ID, forces voting against that. Get it?
 
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ginwilly

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How can the vast majority be on board when most people will only vote if stirred up, iow, rarely, but not never?

Trying to force registration, forces voting against that. Get it?
What is our track record for voting? About 50/50 for presidential and sometimes less than half of that for others.

SCOTUS has ruled that voting is a state issue following state mandates.

Dems are up in arms over the possible disenfranchise of people who have shown they are most likely not going to vote anyway.

Voter ID makes perfect sense. You can't receive Obamacare without photo ID.... You can't attend a democratic national convention without an ID. You can't see an R rated movie without ID.

No, this is a partisan fight, the pubs who make people pay know exactly what they are doing and dems who argue against it know exactly what they are doing.

Yes there may be outliers, you seem to be one yourself. But you are a rare bird in this case. The argument against is the fear of losing votes. Why wouldn't the fear be equal to both camps?
 

kelly4

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There are almost 3 times as many whites living in poverty than blacks. Many more white voters would be affected by an ID law than black voters. A lower number by percentage...but many more by actual body count.


Numbers, they are fun.
 

reasonevangelist

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I have absolutely NO problem with requiring proof of residency and or citizenship for voting.

Seems fucking stupid NOT to mandate it, considering the amount of illegal aliens we have residing in our nation.
I think it would be more important to require proof of Competency, rather than residency or citizenship.

If the aliens are competent and vote the right way, great! If the natural-born citizens are too stupid to avoid voting in favor of tyranny, i don't think they should be allowed to vote. Although since the tyrants make and enforce the rules, it works in their favor to only allow natural-born idiots to vote, instead of competent and sane aliens.

I don't care where competency and sanity are born; i only care that they prevail over the aforementioned alternatives.
 

greenlikemoney

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the integrity of the vote is a transparent and retarded excuse you righties use to try to disenfranchise minorities.

the integrity of the vote is already at 99.999849% you fucking stooges.





25% blacks at 93% democrat
20% asians at 73% democrat
19% hispanics at 71% democrat
18% age 18-24 at 60% democrat
15% <$35k income at 63% democrat


GEE, THAT'S NOT FUCKING OBVIOUS you fucking stooge.
LMFAO...and your source? The DNC, well DUH !!!!!
 

SmokeyDan

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I think it would be more important to require proof of Competency, rather than residency or citizenship.

If the aliens are competent and vote the right way, great! If the natural-born citizens are too stupid to avoid voting in favor of tyranny, i don't think they should be allowed to vote. Although since the tyrants make and enforce the rules, it works in their favor to only allow natural-born idiots to vote, instead of competent and sane aliens.

I don't care where competency and sanity are born; i only care that they prevail over the aforementioned alternatives.
While I see your point, I think citizenship, competency, and stake in the game of our state should all be required.

So the 3 c's.... citizens, competence, and contribution.
 

schuylaar

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There are almost 3 times as many whites living in poverty than blacks. Many more white voters would be affected by an ID law than black voters. A lower number by percentage...but many more by actual body count.


Numbers, they are fun.
yeah and i betchya those low income white voters would be happy with a free ID too..this is not all about the black caucus, kelly:wall:

EDIT: there should be a national ID anyway..it's time.
 
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UncleBuck

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I would think both sides would agree that ID is a simple solution to "some" of the problems.
no.

there is no problem. the vote, as we discussed before you ran off holding your breath and stamping your feet with your fingers in your ears, was 99.9998849% OK.

if you're trying to convince us that the remaining 0.0001151% of votes (approximately two votes per state per election at most) are a "problem" so you can disenfranchise ten million blacks and countless other millions of democrat leaning voters, good luck.

the problem here is that you republican ideas are shitty, unwelcome, and unpopular. that is the only problem you are trying to "fix" in the most sleazy, cowardly, and weasel-like of ways.

scumbag.
 

UncleBuck

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Voter ID makes perfect sense.
voter ID makes almost zero sense, since there is next to ZERO voter fraud that would be prevented by it.

this is just your cheap, dishonest, sleazy tactic to disenfranchise voters who you cannot sway with your shitty, unwelcome ideas.
 

SmokeyDan

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you should NOT have to pay for something that is a right..social security is NOT a right and the card is free..why? can anyone explain this?
Right to bear arms... so guns should be free?

When the cost of that right is as insignificant as identification, which one needs anyway for numerous other non rights, I don't think that point has any validity.

Besides, voting is not a right legally in the United States. Bush v Gore decided that. You're just not allowed to deny the vote to people based on race or sex.
 
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