Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[st0wandgrow]

Look, Im not trying to argue with you. IMO you, and everyone else interested in organics should be trying to turn people on to it, not turn them off with a condescending attitude. Not everyone has the time nor the means to be making everything. I work 50+ hours a week, I have a family of 5, and I enjoy traveling. If its easier for me to stop at the hydro shop for a bottle of pro-tekt than it is to be pissing around with horsetail trying to make it myself then I (nor anyone else) shouldn't be ridiculed for it. The tone of the LOS site turns people away. Offer alternatives to products, not ultimatums.

Myself and others were shamed for using coco coir in our mix at LOS. Like its blasphemy or something. Why is that? I really like using a 50/50 peat/coco coir mix. It's working great for me. Why is that so bad in your view? You guys act like peat is the only organic answer, and yet apparently don't consider the delicate ecosystems that are ruined when these peat bogs are stripped.

Personally I want to see more people make the switch to organics. If people choose to source everything from their back yard then more power to them. If people choose to pick up a couple items from the hydro store then that should be ok too.

 

[headtreep]

Happy Mother's Day

 

[CannaCole]

I buy the bagged synthetic organic soil, just so I can say I grow organic. Can't get more crunchy than me.

 

[headtreep]

Look, Im not trying to argue with you. IMO you, and everyone else interested in organics should be trying to turn people on to it, not turn them off with a condescending attitude. Not everyone has the time nor the means to be making everything. I work 50+ hours a week, I have a family of 5, and I enjoy traveling. If its easier for me to stop at the hydro shop for a bottle of pro-tekt than it is to be pissing around with horsetail trying to make it myself then I (nor anyone else) shouldn't be ridiculed for it. The tone of the LOS site turns people away. Offer alternatives to products, not ultimatums.

Myself and others were shamed for using coco coir in our mix at LOS. Like its blasphemy or something. Why is that? I really like using a 50/50 peat/coco coir mix. It's working great for me. Why is that so bad in your view? You guys act like peat is the only organic answer, and yet apparently don't consider the delicate ecosystems that are ruined when these peat bogs are stripped.

Personally I want to see more people make the switch to organics. If people choose to source everything from their back yard then more power to them. If people choose to pick up a couple items from the hydro store then that should be ok too.

I don't think I mentioned anything to you about coco. I don't use it because my compost is plenty woody but I know others that do on the LOS site. Strange people got after you.

Agisil has nothing to do with horsetail and I don't use horsetail. If you did you can order it. I use what is cheap and available like any smart farmer would. No more no less.

Edit: I will always advocate the use of peat because again it's cheap and effective compared to coco with low amendment value imo. Adding a little in the mix isn't going to hurt but why if you already have a great compost?

 

[st0wandgrow]

And just so I'm clear here, I never had a problem with you (or most members) at LOS. There were a few like gas and Arlo that were ridiculous though. My god, even Microbeman (one of the smartest cats out there) was run off the site by gas!

 

[headtreep]

And just so I'm clear here, I never had a problem with you (or most members) at LOS. There were a few like gas and Arlo that were ridiculous though. My god, even Microbeman (one of the smartest cats out there) was run off the site by gas!

Cool deal. Let's have a fresh start and clean slate. I missed this site. MM has his own site FYI.

I also go by invocation for those who don't know me on other forums.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I would donate money to LOS and buy their products if they banned Arlo.

PH matters in any growing. Just so many ways to achieve it. I've learned good water helps lol.

HT...Going to rep the breeders and strains?

 

[headtreep]

I would donate money to LOS and buy their products if they banned Arlo.

PH matters in any growing. Just so many ways to achieve it. I've learned good water helps lol.

HT...Going to rep the breeders and strains?

Good water does help. We use a small 1 stage filter that works great. I have used plenty of water sources including tap with castings and if I remember from hydro days the tap PH was over 7 almost 8. I haven't had issues or measured my PH since I started.

My soil acts as a buffer.

Edit: Fire OG, Irukandji, Plushberry, and Candy Chem are the cultivars pictured in earlier thread.

 

[flower pharm]

Happy Mother's Day

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what a sweet child!

 

[KLITE]

Headtreep, i like the leaf shine on your plants. I only started getting that shine after recycling and using teas. Do you foliar with teas too? Im a bit addicted to foliaring with teas, i admit, something about it kinda turns me on in a green way.

 

[headtreep]

Headtreep, i like the leaf shine on your plants. I only started getting that shine after recycling and using teas. Do you foliar with teas too? Im a bit addicted to foliaring with teas, i admit, something about it kinda turns me on in a green way.

Exactly KLITE. The more cycles the more the plants reflect with outstanding help. I do use ACT foliars once a cycle or so but mostly IPM with neem, aloe, and silica. I foliar no more than once a week sometimes every other week.

 

[headtreep]

Run 3 cycles in a No Till pot and get something like this:


Chimera GF X BB older pic 3rd Cycle ROLS NO Till soil. This particular run really sold me on the whole No Till deal.

 

[headtreep]

Anyone using FPEs or Teas can achieve the same results with topdressings which is much simpler than broadcasting with water and having to bubble etc. I use whatever botanical and sprinkle a little worm castings and I'm done.

 

[KLITE]

I foliar every two days during the first 2 3 weeks of flower with either tea or kelp humic fulvic and tiny bit of molasses. During veg a lot of aloe and kelp o tea usually twice a week. Ive kept two mothers very! healthy without top dressing nor teas for about 2 months now with foliar every day or 2
I really like foliar feeding and you can see the results a day after aplication. I really think giving a heavy foliar schedule at beggining of flower increases amount of budsites and size of those budsites. I probably go overboard though never seen a negative response from it only positive. I dont think i could give up on foliaring as often as i do. I also think the plant makes a more efficient use of what is absorbed through the leaves.
I have grown in hydro with heavy foliar feeding during the first 3 weeks of flower and res water at 0.4 to 0.5 ec and plants did better than if res was at higher ec and no foliar. This was when i realized foliar can really be taken advantage of.

 

[KLITE]

Run 3 cycles in a No Till pot and get something like this:


Chimera GF X BB older pic 3rd Cycle ROLS NO Till soil. This particular

run really sold me on the whole No Till deal.

W-O-W

Award winning resin production right there!

 

[headtreep]

I foliar every two days during the first 2 3 weeks of flower with either tea or kelp humic fulvic and tiny bit of molasses. During veg a lot of aloe and kelp o tea usually twice a week. Ive kept two mothers very! healthy without top dressing nor teas for about 2 months now with foliar every day or 2
I really like foliar feeding and you can see the results a day after aplication. I really think giving a heavy foliar schedule at beggining of flower increases amount of budsites and size of those budsites. I probably go overboard though never seen a negative response from it only positive. I dont think i could give up on foliaring as often as i do. I also think the plant makes a more efficient use of what is absorbed through the leaves.
I have grown in hydro with heavy foliar feeding during the first 3 weeks of flower and res water at 0.4 to 0.5 ec and plants did better than if res was at higher ec and no foliar. This was when i realized foliar can really be taken advantage of.

Klite I used to go heavy like you mentioned and even advocated it but imo it's working too hard on achieving the same goal. In fact I've had issues with certain picky cultivars is telling me yet again less is more. After a few cycles you things move long nicely without using "nutes".

It's truly hard get the npk thinking outta our minds. I struggled for a bit myself.

That's why we all are making history the Ag world. DOING THINGS PEOPLE SAY IS IMPOSSIBLE.

 

[headtreep]

Oberservation and simplicity.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Anyone using FPEs or Teas can achieve the same results with topdressings which is much simpler than broadcasting with water and having to bubble etc. I use whatever botanical and sprinkle a little worm castings and I'm done.

I really prefer the top dress route too. It was getting to the point with ACT's, nutrient teas, SST's, etc that I seemed to constantly have something brewing. Top dress is so much easier and seems to be just as effective.

 

[headtreep]

I really prefer the top dress route too. It was getting to the point with ACT's, nutrient teas, SST's, etc that I seemed to constantly have something brewing. Top dress is so much easier and seems to be just as effective.

Yeah man we aint too far apart from our inputs. Try a test pot of whatever with a basic soil and clean water. Run tests outside with veggies if you're concerned with space. Having an addiction to gardening I dedicated my little free time outside and was well worth it.

 

[KLITE]

I really prefer the top dress route too. It was getting to the point with ACT's, nutrient teas, SST's, etc that I seemed to constantly have something brewing. Top dress is so much easier and seems to be just as effective.

Isnt the point of teas to add beneficial microbes to the medium so that the plant can better uptake the nutrients in medium? I love top dressing too though i doubt id go a whole cycle without at least a couple of teas.
BTW if you guys are interested in witnessing the miracles of foliar feeding pop into my thread KLITE's huerto in gardening every now and then. I foliar my farm once or twice a week and the response is great!