Zeus' 1400w Canadian Basement

Looking good keep it up....

BAYAREAMEDICAL said:

Looking good keep it up....

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what this dude said.

My ladies just got a shot of budstart yesterday and they're starting to open up a bit.

Heres a shot from below, showing how bloody thick these bushes are. I'm going to have to prune soon.

And into the Veg room.

These white rhinos are stupid bushy and starting to get a little tall for my liking, I should really have cloned and put them into flower by now, but the cloner is occupied and i'm waiting on my TDS meter before i put the clones onto the flood tables, I should have it in the next day or 2.

As you can see the clones are rooted nicely.

This is the only one that is kinda shitty, and i'd still say it has roots. Another day and it'll be just fine.

Seeing as the rest of them have roots like this, i'm gonna call this round 100% success.

Here's an Arjans ultra haze thats starting to get pink pistils, its real pretty like.

Another day or two and i'll have the first table up and running. Exciting times!!!

helmoid said:

I love the winter, and I love canada. Ive been there many times for hunting/fishing etc. I also love the fact that I can get cuban Cigars. I hope that one day I have the resources and ability to Live in Canada, but the biggest problem would be where to move to. I'll have to do some reasearch but thank you for your response, It has encouraged me.

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I might reccomend saskatchewan as a possibility, housing is pretty cheap right now, the small town cops can be pretty awesome, really tollerant and what not...Although some new city cops got shipped out to my area, they're total dicks, i should slash their tires. Anyways i hope you make the move.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/168507-lets-talk-aerocloners.html
Heres an aerocloner thread i'm attempting to start.

Zeus. nice grow... thanks for the inspiration!

Thanks for the post. Roots are looking great

noiiiiceee I've got some AUH#1 being germinated right this moment. Can't wait to grow this amazing strain!

Where'd all my clones go?

(all except a mother from each SZ and all the AUH#1s which will be dirt-grown)

Oh here they are.
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It seems sort of wrong to just be crammin' these bitches in hyroton without any sort of root support, but everyone tells me they'll latch on after a couple days of hand watering.

Here they are under the 1k with a bunch of mamas.
Tomorrow i will take cuts off all my white rhinos and put all the moms under my 400hps for sexing, and budding purposes.
I'm watching these girls like a hawk for any signs of stress. I'll probably give them a shot of super b+ tonight before lights out.

I'm now a hydroponic gardener.

As promised i took those clones today.
8 clones off of each of the 9 rhinos and one church.
The mamas are under 12\12 now, and a little thinner for their troubles.

Along with half a dozen AUH#1 clones.

I'm only keeping mothers in veg right now, along with a couple gems i've decided to take out of flowering and take cuts from when the time is right.

heres the thousand today, no big changes, the sog seems to be establishing itself nicely.

A bunch of stems... yknow, maybe its a waste of time dipping each one in cloning gel only to have it washed off ten seconds later....

And of course the star of todays show.

So thats what 80 clones looks like. Kinda scary numbers for me, but i remind myself (and any law enforcement reading this) that its all personal and half of these are gonna be boys and discarded. (well, maybe if theres a strong male in there i'll put it aside for breeding purposes.)
Anyone who tells you its easy to grow dope, send them my way, sprucezeus could use a slave to scrub reservoirs and mix dirt and cut clones and program timers and generally do all the work.
Anyhow, after a hard days work I'm gonna go smoke the last nug of my GH? cheese, i've had it curing for months saving it for a special occasion, nows as good a time as any.

I just realised its not zeus' 1400w basement anymore, up to 1800 now.
I'll keep using this as my journal, but i'll do so feeling dishonest.

Hey Spruce...

Cheater...

Just posted another tasty update...

Thought I'd drop by and invite you over...

Cheers...

holy crap 1800w now

that's crazy man you must have beauts. I just ordered a 400w conversion, I plan on doing most of it outdoors, but start them indoors. Think my 3x3x10 closet will get too hot with 2 fans in there?

So far Of the 9 surviving White Rhinos, 5 have been confirmed as males and subsequently crammed in a trash bag along with all the clones taken from them.
3 confirmed females, and one mystery sex along with my feminized church and some AUH#1 clones are chillin under the 400.

Here we have the cloner, getting less full by the second it seems, funny, it was plants 4 through 8 that were males, so the middle is picked clean.

Heres the 1000 in all its glory, my hydro ladies have yellowed a fair bit in the last week, but i just got a new bluelab Truncheon TDS/EC meter, so i will be a little more comfortable cranking up the nutes now, hopefully rectifying my problem.

Heres a nice frosty SZ plant that is a potential mother for my tables, I was pretty set on using the best WR i could find for a mama, but alas, all my favorite growth was happening on males, and all i'm left with are some stretchy leggy girls. Its still early so i'm not counting this strain out, but i'm not as sure about it as i was before i grew any.

I Have to say, before this, i've only ever grown feminized seeds, both bagseed (all from the same bag) and greenhouse seeds. This has been my first experience with males, and frankly, i dont like it. I spent weeks and weeks vegging these plants, they took up valuable space in my veg room and ate up a bunch of soil and nutes, only to find out more than half of them are of no good to me (i'd like to breed, but just cannot justify another grow room in my house.)
These nirvana girls are all over the fucking place, soo much phenotypical? variation, they've all gotten the same treatment, yet some are deficient, some are almost burnt, some short and squat (of course those were all boys ) and others leggy with looong internodal distance, there had better be some goddamn magic bud off at least one of these females, for all the hassles this strain has given me.

I think in the future i'll be ordering feminized seeds from top breeders. Spending $100 bucks at pick n mix, i can get some mothers from 4 or 5 great, reputable strains and not have to worry about balls. I've still got a couple packs of cheapo seeds to grow out (KC brans' mango, Nirvana's jock horror), but i'm not going to bet the farm on them.
I'm sure that nirvana isn't that bad and with some luck and some time you can find a good mama, but for my money, i'd rather pay the big bucks for a proven winner.

I think my next order is gonna look something like this

Barney's farm- sweet tooth
Big buddah- Cheisel
Greenhouse-supersilverhaze and lemon skunk
A couple feminized seeds of each along with the genetics i'm currently working and i should hopefully have a satisfactory gene pool to take from.
I truly believe that simpler is better, but i like having a selection of jars to smoke from. The first time i went to my drawer and said "self, whats it gonna be, some cheese? maybe a little arjan's ultra haze? some SZ?" I knew that i could never go back to buying some nameless (or made up) variety of poorly cared for, mediocre pot.
Well unfortunately since that day, i've run out of pot, and been forced to call up a dealer and buy some. Sure it was good enough, and i've spent way more on growing (so far) than i do on a bag, but the worst part for me is the criminal element. The guy i buy from isn't gangster or anything, but the guy above him might be, and i dont want to contribute anything to this culture of violence and shady deals, short weights and all the rest.
Marijuana is very important for me, not just as a medicine or a recreational tool (trust me, its both!), but as a spiritual aid, as something that brings me closer to the planet. Its one of the only products i use that comes straight from the supply to me (when im' growing it anyhow.)
Thats why the direction this country is going in scares the living shit out of me.
Bill C-26 is introducing marditory minimums for growing pot.
A first offence of a single, beautiful, usefull, harmless plant, gets you a minimum of 6 months in jail.
Now, I'm kinda a hippie, i dont like violence, or having to carry myself with alot of testosterone oozing from every pore. So i'm pretty sure that prison is not a place i'd like to find myself. Which brings me to a serious fork in the road.
So heres hoping this shit doesnt pass.

Whoah, honey oil fuelled rant anyone?

Lol...its funny what the honey makes come out...

Well all I can say man is take precautions and do your best. When you're on your death bed, will you look back and regret that you stopped for fear of jail time?

That's a heavy handed question, but it puts things into perspective, eh?

So its been almost 2 weeks since i got the first hydro table up a running.
I've definately learned that you need well established clones to go straight to hydroton. It so happens that the poorest clones put on the table are in fact, the poorest plants
My EC is at 1.3 and the PH drifted up almost a full point from 5.7 to 6.5, i added a little PHdown to rectify this. Apparently (so one person told me) light will affect your PH. Its the first i've ever heard of this, but i'd love some confirmation if anybody knows.

The Nirvana White Rhinos are sexed, final tally: 10 seeds germinated, one culled early on for wimpy start, 5 males, 4 females (assuming i dont get any sneaky hermie bitches.) I'm not terribly impressed, although one pheno (my WR#3) is a bit bushier than the rest and has cloned a fair bit quicker than any of the others, so we may have a mama yet. Until its finished, cut, dried and cured i'll keep all the genetics going, cause hey, you never know which one is gonna be okay and which one is gonna amazing.

I like this shot
Heres a couple macros of the spruce zeus buds about 4 1/2 weeks in.


I'm really glad i've found some quality mothers from this strain, there are 3 unique phenos that have lemon-skunky, sour-berry, and perfumey smells respectively. Also the perfumey one turns purple late into flower, and who doesnt like a puple dope plant?
Seriously, I need some pollen from a breeding quality male. I thought about keeping one of the WR males for breeding purposes, but i'm really not sold on that strain, and i dont want to breed inferior seeds, when i do it, i will do it right.

Anyhow, these bitches stink all to high hell, so i hooked up the odorsok

It has definately reduced the Odours to the point where you can't smell my plants from oudside the basement, but they are still very much a part of the scent profile down there. I think i may tinker with this thing either by adding a sleve where i can put more carbon, or just cram it full of ona gel and dryer sheets. When i have a flowering room full of mature plants its really gonna stink up in here. alas the price we pay...

SpruceZeus said:

I just realised its not zeus' 1400w basement anymore, up to 1800 now.
I'll keep using this as my journal, but i'll do so feeling dishonest.

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Actually, 1864w if you count the flouros.
Holy crap, it happens without even noticing.
I started growing with a donated 400w MH and an initial investment of maybe $30.
I'm now thousands of dollars deep. (not that i'm complaining, i've only had to buy bags a few times since i've started, this grow feeds 3 heavy users with the potential to grow a pound+ every few weeks. (not that I ever get even close to that). Those kinds of numbers scare me though. This is a personal grow and if i had 160 plants going, it would be pretty fucking hard to prove that in a court of law. I guess i could show the judge my overflowing roach case and dozens of smoking pieces, but i'm pretty sure that would fall on deaf ears.

Anyhow, I'm stoned and using this journal as an outlet for my occasional paranoia that the man is ready to come knockin' and fuck my shit up.
The fact is, i'm being more and more careful as time goes, but theres still this urge to be flamboyant about it. Sometimes i just wanna pass a joint around a room of friends and strangers and when someone comments as to to quality or flavour of the weed just jump up and be all "THATS RIGHT, I GREW THAT SHIT MOTHERFUCKER!!!" and then recieve appropriate kudos for said awesome weed.
Sadly, the legal state of cannabis dictates that it would be unwise to do this. So i have to settle for making the people closest to me constantly praise the undeniable excellence of said marijuana.
I often wonder, for every Jorge or Marc Emery, how many people were stopped short? I guess if you want to attain the status of a cannabis celebrity you have two different options.

1. Be famous first, then tell the world. ie. Woody Harrelson. did cheers, became loved by many, Became outspoken marijuana advocate.
2. Fear not jail. Be Loud. Grow big and grow openly. Always be informing, make it your job to promote cannabis. ie. Marc Emery. Has been a opponent of censorship and a freedom fighter for years. He's done many natioinal tours, runs cannabis culture magazine and for ten years he ran a seed bank. Sadly, he is now facing extridition to the states for selling seeds, he could do ten years in prison, in a foiegn country for doing what it is I would like to do. This would probably be my fate if i went in that direction. Its a very thin line to walk. At what point do we all just say "alright, cut the shit, we all grow dope" I mean, theres millions of smokers out there, and who even knows how many growers.
In any event, eventually the shit might hit the fan, and if it does, i might make some noise.
If i got busted, I'd love to challenge the law itself, make alot ruckus, get a hotshot lawyer, make sure they have to work to convict me of anything. Theres a million different loopholes and wordings of laws that can be worked and beaten into the ground by a competent lawyer for a long time.

Any way it goes, i think i'm content for a while to keep my head down, grow some great weed, share it with people close to me and bide my time. Someday i'm gonna be a Cannabis celebrity, but its not my time yet.



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I started a how to thread detailing all they shit you'd have to buy to have my grow room. it is https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/174170-zeuss-how-grow-dope-q.html

Hopefully I will continue adding to it and build it into a right proper how to.

SpruceZeus said:

I started a how to thread detailing all they shit you'd have to buy to have my grow room. it is https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/174170-zeuss-how-grow-dope-q.html

Hopefully I will continue adding to it and build it into a right proper how to.

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Very nice Zeus, I'm going to check that out right now.

Heres the table today, all the happy ones are really happy, and the 2 sad ones are looking dead. Goes to show you, root your goddamn clones properly or else.


On the table i'm running 3 phenos of my house strain, trying to decide which one is a right proper mother for my sog. Only time will tell, they all root with similar speed and are pretty much just as vigorous.

My house strain is called the spruce zeus.
I've been growing these genetics for some time now (since i started growing with any seriousness.)
originally feminized bagseed with about 20% hermies, I have narrowed it down to my 3 favorites. I'm just so torn over what to grow alot of.
Heres some shots of the 3 mothers,

I've nicknamed this one fruity,and it certainly lives up to that name. Its not as good a yielder as the other two but smells, and tastes so fucking sweet. It has many smaller trichs that stay white and never really amber off. It finishes in about 11 weeks in soil. The high from this bud is a very lucid 'clean' high with little burnout. Probably my favorite smoke of the bunch, very sour and a real crowd pleaser. but longest finishing time and smallest yield.

This one I've named Chunky and its the yielder of the bunch by a fair bit. If this were a commercial grow i would pick this pheno in a second. Thick buds that really swell and finish early. Big fat trichomes that are nice and amber at 9 weeks in soil. The calyxes on this girl swell up big time.
Strong skunky smell. The smoke from this one is pretty heavy, with lemon-skunky flavour that really expands in the lungs. Definitely a hard comedown from it too.
Pros- yield, bag appeal, flavour.
Cons- Very indica-y high that is not very functional. come down is pretty rough.

This one i've nick-named The Purple one. No guessing as to why its called that, later on in flower pretty much every leaf on this bitch turns a deep purple colour. It shows on the dried cured bud, but not as much as a "true" purple strain. In the last 2 weeks or so this one foxtails like mad, with chunky shoots coming out of everywhere. She yields somewhere in the middle of the pack, finishes in about 10 weeks with large perfume smelling buds that aren't peticularily dense or frosty but quite nice nonetheless. The smoke from this one is very flavourfull with hints of perfume, skunk and pine.
The high is fairly balanced, with a bit of a creeping spine chill, not as potent as the other two, but pretty good for those days when you're chain smoking joints and don't want to pass out at 5pm.

Three beautiful girls, One tough decision.
Not really a huge factor, but chunky sucks up nutes like mad whereas fruity and the purple one eat like birds and burn up if you dare feed them close to full strength.

I think its gonna come down to chunky and fruity.
I hate to call this the battle between quality and yield but it kinda equates to that.
Having said that, fruity is still not a bad yielder in the grand scheme of things and chunky definately doesn't lack flavour or potancy. I guess the thing to do is just bide my time, give each a turn on the tables and decide from there who is doing the best. After all its not like i'm gonna kill off any of these girls, they all have desireable traits and are the best 3 from probably 80 seeds. And i'm still going to have my soil grow, so if i decide i need to grow a bunch of each i can do that too.
Also i have all these nirvana white rhinos that still might impress me yet. and the church, and some jock horror i just popped, and always arjans ultra haze aaaaand some KC mango seeds. aaaaaaand some attitude freebee powerskunks, which i probably won't grow in my garden, Ive heard too much about 16 week flowering times and insane stretch with little of the things true powerskunk is noted for (yield, potancy) Next time someone asks me for some of my genetics, thats what they're getting, enjoy your weed, in 6 months!!!!


my mother room. Looking kinda empty right now, but not for long.


Anyways, when my grow's big problem is too many strains to choose from, i'm doin alright.

Happy growing y'all.