Zeitgeist, Your Thoughts.

CrackerJax said:

Heh, I don't want to open this can of worms....

Let's just nip this in the bud (<---bud) as far as the money schemes and such.

The country is in massive debt, that's no lie. However, we are much too far down the road to change course now. The FED is what it is and cannot be replaced unless we all want to become an instant Banana Republic.

So while all that stuff is fun to watch and can be entertaining, it's just not a realistic possibility to change monetary systems until we clean up our books first. Show me the Politician willing to tackle that problem and I will show you someone who is UNELECTABLE....

Hey, it's all good here... I'm having a ball.

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the only way the monetary system will change is when it fails, it eventually will, its set up to do so...... in time

Bingo... we have a winner!!! Yes indeed. What has everyone so crazy is that Obama is accelerating the time tables of the fall. Those in the know are aware of the end result, but like death, no one wants it to knock on their door. Better to postpone....then all the Zeitgeists will get their wishes. Oh how they will rue that day.....except it won't go away....

were all gonna die...... aaahhhhhhhgg
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CrackerJax said:

Bingo... we have a winner!!! Yes indeed. What has everyone so crazy is that Obama is accelerating the time tables of the fall. Those in the know are aware of the end result, but like death, no one wants it to knock on their door. Better to postpone....then all the Zeitgeists will get their wishes. Oh how they will rue that day.....except it won't go away....

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if Iran doesnt finish the world first...lol!

Woomeister said:

if Iran doesnt finish the world first...lol!

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I think an Israel attack is near 90% positive at this point. We'll see what the response is after that. It's no joke by the way, but laugh all you want to.

just keep on beating that drum...

Just keep ignoring it.... but it isn't going away.

CrackerJax said:

Just keep ignoring it.... but it isn't going away.

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Just say you are right, what good does worrying about it do?

start gathering bullets and veina sausages just in case some shit goes down. I kid, but seriously Martial law is scary.

Woomeister said:

Just say you are right, what good does worrying about it do?

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Who's worrying? I am merely INFORMING ppl of the realities of world politics. Being informed is power however.

When you see the correct way to go, you should tell others.....it is up to them to make the course correction, not I.

If all you want to post about is PollyAnna stuff, then go ahead....I seek a higher plane, where agreement is nice, but not the goal. The truth of matters is the goal. This is where the deniers get uncomfortable.

CrackerJax said:

Who's worrying? I am merely INFORMING ppl of the realities of world politics. Being informed is power however.

When you see the correct way to go, you should tell others.....it is up to them to make the course correction, not I.

If all you want to post about is PollyAnna stuff, then go ahead....I seek a higher plane, where agreement is nice, but not the goal. The truth of matters is the goal. This is where the deniers get uncomfortable.

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exactly, you cant force opinions and theres no need, if people dont even want to consider what other people have to say, let them lie in ignorance, all you can do is show people the door, they have to realise that the door is just a figment of your imagination and you already know the answers through it, but its easier to deny it then accept the world is not as loving and caring and that our leaders are just really good manipultors and they can make you believe whatever the fuck they want... "it was a terrorist attack, no it was an act of the american government" both still bring fear, they can give u 2 oppisite choices that still result in the same thing, fear..... people are just great arnt they

Oh please.... I am far from ignorant and who is to say that you are right CJ? You DONT know everything and it would be remiss of anyone with an iota of intelligence to believe that of themselves. Everything is black and white with you isnt it, have you heard of grey??? Who are you to inform anyone, you are just a name on a screen with an opinion, like all of us, that you wish to insist everyone takes as fact. Have you ever been wrong in your life, or made a bad decision? I believe you have. You interpret information in a way that backs up whichever argument you are pursuing at the time, rather than looking at it objectively. You use wide sweeping statements like 'Socialism' and 'right winged' etc. Ism's are not clearly definable and in many ways are still generalisations to pigeonhole the majority of people with certain views. You are obviously an intelligent person and well read, but that doesnt mean that everyone you disagree with isnt just as intelligent and well read. If everyone had the same opinions then a boring world it would be, agree? For the record I dont believe that Israel will be nuking anybody soon...

Woo you have been one of those malcontents that was saying Iran wasn't even building nukes, so step aside.

lol, you guys make me laugh, not you cracker jack( even though ive had a go at everyone in this thread(even you)( not because i stirr shit, but because everyone is so full of fear and pride)) that they cant just listen to what everyone is saying, you have to contest it, guess what guys, everyone has a valid point, and one person who shows this is cracker jack, even though i dissed him earlier he still can back me up later on in a convo in something he really believes, the only thing i can say about this thread is.... that anyone.... even you CT haters you clicked on this link, you still have the un sure feeling, just investigate for yourselves, have a fucking look around you at what goes on, even just for one second, if it doesnt help your mind, it will sure as fuck fix your spirit, dont for one second even fully believe what any one says in this thread, for god sake start using up that organ in the top of your fucking head, make ur own god dam conculsions, and when u do, dont put other people down because you came to a different answer then they did, listen take it all into consideration, and just think.... for once in ur life...... really think.... dont just use your mind, use everything around you and just think..... please.......

CrackerJax said:

Woo you have been one of those malcontents that was saying Iran wasn't even building nukes, so step aside.

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exactly why they wont be nuking anyone...

Woomeister said:

exactly why they wont be nuking anyone...

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why would anyone build nukes when the US is overly willing to sell them to any country with a almost acceptable offer?

Well, you are certainly in the minority Woo...... Europe thinks they are building them. The USA & Canada think they are building them. Iran SAYS they are building them. Israel says they are building them.

President: so do we take out Iran?
General: we can't

President: huh? why not?
General: there's still this one guy who doesn't believe they have nukes.

President: Okay, stand down.



Masterd..... the uS doesn't sell nukes to the highest bidder....

I dont think I have said they arent trying to gain nukes, have I (genuinely cant remember, scratches head) What I have said is they arent going to just use them to blow up Israel when they will hold far more sway just by having the threat.

I'm sure that certain people in all countries think a lot of things about Iran. US spies said in 2007 that they had found plenty of evidence to the contrary though. The NIE does not believe that Iran will have the necessary elements to produce a weapon until at least 2015, and thats if they had continued the program that was halted in 2005. As things stand at the moment it would more likely be 2020

Woomeister said:

I dont think I have said they arent trying to gain nukes, have I (genuinely cant remember, scratches head) What I have said is they arent going to just use them to blow up Israel when they will hold far more sway just by having the threat.

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So we shouldn't take them at their own word (Iran)? Whose should we take? Yours?