Manofculture
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God and what is right is on our side
your thoughts on today's court case(federal)
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LCP
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/end-of-medical-marijuana-program-violates-patients-constitutional-rights-lawyer-1.1734729
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tiktak1297
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I like the part how the judge said "im convinced a serious issue has taken place"
OGEvilgenius
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I don't think this is what will happen. It's a reasonable position, but they don't allow you to grow opium yourself - in spite of the fact it's a fuck of a lot cheaper than buying opiate based painkillers. I do think an injunction will come down, but I don't have any faith in the Supreme Court. Especially after the Mernagh ruling.
spider9
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but the insurance co. and benifit plans will cover the opium they will not cover MJ so there is no reasonable access my script goes from $90 per month to $900 per month on disability with three young kids that is not reasonable any thing
Brian Savage
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There was never a supreme court of Canada ruling stating that people prescribed opiates MUST have reasonable access to to opium poppies. There was with cannabis in 2000 R. v Davis.
OGEvilgenius
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There wasn't, but it's highly comparable and well established law. What the SC might suggest is that a number be assigned to it like it's a normal medication, but they won't allow us to continue to grow. It won't happen. There are powerful interests, much more so than you or I, that would like to see it happen this way.
And the SC doesn't represent us, it represents the government and has judges appointed by the government.
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be.
And the SC doesn't represent us, it represents the government and has judges appointed by the government.
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be.
LCP
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I see your point OGE, but there is no way the government can find opium and marijuana highly comparable in regards to access to medication. 1)One major concern with opium is that it can KILL people when not manufactured or taken properly; hence a huge public safety concern. 2) One major concern they have regarding medicinal marijuana is just so that it doesn't find its way to the black market, along with trying to maintain a regulated quality.
Strictly speaking, Opium and its derivatives are a SCHEDULE 1 drug under the CDSA. To compare Opium with Marijuana and have that be the main argument for commercially regulating the medical marijuana industry is improper.
Strictly speaking, Opium and its derivatives are a SCHEDULE 1 drug under the CDSA. To compare Opium with Marijuana and have that be the main argument for commercially regulating the medical marijuana industry is improper.
OGEvilgenius
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Opium shouldn't be controlled. Strongly disagreed. Prohibition causes problems. For some people these problems are potentially useful. For most of us, they are problems. Those some people are who want to see it continued.
It's not improper to make this argument either as it is pretty difficult to OD on opium itself. Extracts are a different story of course.
Alcohol is more dangerous than opium is.
It's not improper to make this argument either as it is pretty difficult to OD on opium itself. Extracts are a different story of course.
Alcohol is more dangerous than opium is.
OGEvilgenius
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The Federal Lawyer argued we don't have a right to low cost medicine. This is of course technically accurate, but also fucking ridiculous.
This will always be low cost medicine - as long as government keeps their fucking noses out of our business. It will be insanely cheap.
This will always be low cost medicine - as long as government keeps their fucking noses out of our business. It will be insanely cheap.
OGEvilgenius
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Alcohol is insanely damaging to your health, much more so than any opiate ever will be. Almost all problems associated with opiates and their use stem from prohibition. Now that isn't to say addiction doesn't suck for those addicted, but historically a lot of great men were opium addicts. John Hopkins couldn't perform surgery (and invented SO MANY life saving procedures we use today) without his fix, but yet was widely regarded as a great surgeon.
In terms of addictive potential they are on a very close playing field as well. With a similarly small % of users ending up addicted (to heroin, which is where you took this conversation, I was talking specifically about opium which is a different compound) to either compound.
This is of course in academic literature. I tend to avoid emotional reasoning, unlike most humans. I also tend to not have strong opinions on shit I know nothing at all about. Unfortunately, as you have demonstrated, most humans take the opposite approach. And we end up in ridiculous and stupid situations like the one we currently inhabit.
You might consider making an argument before shooting my points down, or possibly evaluating what my argument might be (because I didn't make much of one, rather stated an opinion).
TL; DR-
GFY
OGEvilgenius
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There is demand for different strains, so there will be supply. I don't see how this judge could reach that conclusion, but I'll take it if he's offering it.