i just feel pity for you olly thats all , and by bashing your beliefs it might one day sink in and you will realise how dumb and stupid you have been ........................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R6aFsxalM8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLC79D6BB43C4CD174
No need to feel sorry man, its all good. I think everyone being different is a good thing. Could you imagine a world where everyone likes "Jersey Shore"? lol.
you only hate me olly coz truth is,(and i know your to proud to admit it on here ) but ive made you totaly rethink your veiws and thoughts on religion , ive destroyed your faith you once held so dearly , i know you will deny it , but i know , you know your faith is utter nonsense and based on lies and deception .
First off, I don't buy anyone's book but I'll read anyone's. Secondly, you have failed to explain the loss in believing in a god if god doesn't exist. You site violence committed in the name of religion/god but fail to recognize the greatest benefit from believing in new age, mystic, chakra-reading, etc... what you keep insisting is a delusion. Belief in god gives HOPE to men's hearts. HOPE is our most redeeming trait and our greatest bane. My spiritual beliefs, as esoteric as they may be, are what has lead me to being a productive member of society. My fear is that you are making some nay-saying professor or doctor of "science" guru richer by buying into his books and his new vaccine that was rubber stamped through USA inc. Come on, bro! If you hold yourself to science than you know you cannot make ANY definitive claims with out supporting evidence. I have the span of human history for circumstantial (maybe even empirical depending on how you view quantum physics). What do you have outside the childish assertions of people who cannot stand not being god themselves. I believe in aliens does that make me deluded too?
funny because i would think the best way would be to allow people to have their beliefs. you can choose to worship a fucking golden calf for all i care but don't tell me I am deluded for my beliefs that is counterproductive to your supposed cause
dude if you think the scientific community isn't guilty of the same crimes at least to their own kind, I got some beach front property I wanna sell you in Yuma. The scientific community is more religious than the religious community. If you even entertain a idea that falls outside mainstream scientific dogmatic practice then you are shouted down and ostracized; despite any evidence introduced to support any controversial theory. The dumb ass atheists would have us believe we evolved from pond scum and the stupid ass religious nuts want us to believe that god made it all in 6 days. I'm just saying that if you really want to be scientific about it you must rule things out using the scientific method. otherwise this form of science will go the way of ancient alchemy. To a true scientist everything is possible; only to the blind and ignorant deal in absolutes. At the current time we do not possess the tools to make such assertions.
Mursh ... do you have any examples of the bolded statement? I have been active in science for a long time and when someone arrives with a non-mainstream claim, the response I heard in every case I can remember is "convince me". The only time i have seen ostracism is for obviously pathological science or pseudoscience, usually with an agenda ... ancient aliens or ESP or Velikovsky's "electric universe" ... that sort of obvious unscience. You have me curious. cn
What the hell are you talking about?
Your belief in god doesn't define your productivity in society, you can be just as productive and hold no belief in god. You need belief in a god to feel a certain way, I don't. I have hope, and love in my heart without the need for a magical daddy in the sky.
Nay-saying? More like not convinced by the flimsy arguments people who believe in god make.
that is a lie bro. In all my life, i dont recall trying to convert others to a religion. You keep making these claims that all believers are delusional... please man, people who contributed to the literature you used to graduate with your degree are believers. Are they dumb or delusional? that would make you hypocrite and delusional for contradicting yourself all throughout college.
I'm saying it happens, and it happens a lot. You think it should be ignored that a large percentage of religious people either have it ingrained into their religion that they must convert people just because you personally don't?
deaf ears will never listen. I believe everyone has a choice whether they try or dont try to convert and the people on the other end as well. A mutual agreement between them if you will.
being delusional is a result of a pathological illness mostly related to the brain. NO, would that not impair their ability to function properly throughout their activities of daily living?
We do have the right to believe in what we want or what interests us, but that does not mean we have to "justify" our beliefs to no one. Beliefs are personal and should be kept that way.
But are they not delusional? Why would you hold someone's views with high regard if they are delusional?
I agree that people have a choice to try to convert. What about children? Parents more often than not demand that their kids take up their religion at an age where the children are unfit to make a decision about something of that scale. I consider the indoctrination of children child abuse.
I'm not referring to the clinical definition of delusion...
I agree, you don't have to justify them to anyone, as long as you don't want to discuss them in any public manner or have them affect any type of public forum. If you do want to discuss them etc., people are going to have questions, and if you don't have reasonable answers, you're going to end up looking silly.
They are deluded when it comes to believing in the existence of a supernatural entity without evidence. They could be a brilliant pianist, or star athlete; I don't think their belief in god would affect those specific fields, per say.
Thank you.
I too feel sorry for those children, I have seen it plenty and do not think it is right. I believe it is choice left for late adolescent early adulthood where one can make a proper decision on what beliefs to follow.
Sorry, then can you provide a proper definition for what you mean by "delusional"?
I too agree with what you have said, but many atheists on here make the stupid assumption that everyone who is a believer that wonders around here are all part of this big massive agenda driven religious indoctrinated cohort ready to be martyrs in the name of God!!! That is beyond stupid!!
yes, but it has been said on here before by some intelligent atheists that anyone who believes in God has skewed vision of the world thus leading to skewed decisions when it comes to their work, disqualifying them immediately as fools