Young plants taco shaped leaves. help :(!

Mazegrows21 said:

I see

Thank you for your insight

What would be your next course of action?

I inspected the plants for mites and found nothing

What do you think about Dolomite Lime , apparently it reduces soil PH and helps with MG issues

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You used a 60x -120x microscope?

You can't see mites by just looking at the leaves

If so, I'm afraid I won't be of much help because I am not educated on the workings of composts, organics or manure based fertilizers and i'm not going to show my ass by giving you bad advice.

NwGKenny said:

You used a 60x -120x microscope?

You can't see mites by just looking at the leaves

If so, I'm afraid I won't be of much help because I am not educated on the workings of composts, organics or manure based fertilizers and i'm not going to show my ass by giving you bad advice.

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I used a jewelers ring I believe it has a 70x zoom.

Found nothing on the undersides of my leaves

Thank you for not wanting to give improper advice

So now I’ve came to the hypothetical conclusion that my soil may be too hot with nutes and am looking to save my babies

Any advice from anyone else with experience using handcrafted soil would be greatly appreciated

Anyone else? Thanks

Mazegrows21 said:

Anyone else? Thanks

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whats in the soil is to hot like cow shot and worm castings the worm castings will be fine but even on my adult plants that have been going for 3-4 months if i dump cow or horse shit on them ill get major leaf curl is what u are getting and u can tell buy the new growth curl its got to do with the cow shit

I would guess you have a pH and fertilizer issue. Do you have pH and EC meters? If not get them. Without a fix on ph and ec you’re in the dark. Test the runoff. Just guessing the pH will be low and the EC high. How old were the plant when you put them in this mix? I admire your efforts with home made mix but you might consider growing in a commercial mix at least through early veg and then transplant into your mix especially starting out. Did you add lime to the soil when you made it? If not you could try hydrated lime but be careful a little goes a long way. It’ll bring the ph up pretty quickly. With the amount of stress the plants are under right now watch out for root rots

I would let them dry out way longer than 2 days. You can pick the pot up and feel of its getting dry.

rob333 said:

whats in the soil is to hot like cow shot and worm castings the worm castings will be fine but even on my adult plants that have been going for 3-4 months if i dump cow or horse shit on them ill get major leaf curl is what u are getting and u can tell buy the new growth curl its got to do with the cow shit

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What should I do to remedy the situation

If your soil is too hot you are going to want to flush the nutrients out. I don’t understand your earlier post about making the soil more acidic? If you are concerned with the PH making it more acidic is only going to drop your PH further.

I would measure your soil and your runoff to know how acidic it is and if it’s the soil. If you are getting run off in the 5s you know you have a problem. You should be sitting at 6.5-7.

I would also create a longer wet and dry cycle. Lifting the pots is a great indicator. I have back issues so I can’t really lift a fully soaked 5 gallon. As the days progress I can lift them out of the tent.

How close are your lights?

Doesn't look like its over fertilized, actually, looks under.

If you don't have a handle on your soil pH, don't add lime. You'll just be shooting in the dark.

You mentioned your RH at night, but nothing about during the day when your lights are going? Can you elaborate?

If you're working with a lot of organic matter, you're probably holding more water than you think. I would use the 'lift' method to determine where you are on your moisture levels. Though I don't think you're over watering.

And unfortunately, I would, as suggested above, check for pests. Those russets are a MoFo and impossible to see without magnification (not a jeweler's loop).

My only other suggestion would be to dumb down your lights, though at a height of 3' off the canopy, I can't see where lighting is the issue, but what the hell, it's easy enough to check, though I don't think it's your problem.

Good luck...