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SterlingCannabis

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alotaball could you please elaborate a little more? Could the spots be related to the bulging joints, as well as the red stems and trunk?
I think I am starving her but i am not sure since I am using a substrate with time released ferts, and that has been flushed (high PH and over fed). I feel my previous PH issues are not to blame since my soil is now testing in the 7.0 region for the last 2 weeks.

I flushed I did not add any ferts for almost a week while I let the pots dry out. Then hit them with 1 gallon each of 1/4 strength miracle grow all purpose food. I then watered out my soil PH over the course of the next week (ended veging under floros 18/6). (flowering under 600W HPS 12/12) Then giving them a gallon each of 1/2 strength Miracle grow Bloom buster 3 weeks ago. And the last feed was a watering of bat guano 1 tbs to 1 gallon water, which was 2 weeks ago with nothing but water and gnatrol (1/4 tsp-gallon water, 1/2 gallon to each plant, 6 and 3 days ago) till today. Today I mixed up one gallon full strength, and gave the plant in question 3/4 gallon and the second plant the remaining 1/4 gallon.
 
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The bulging joints is a sign of a good strong plant that will support a good cola.... Big joints are good, big joints is my first indicator of a keeper.

The rest, I can't comment on as have never used miracle grow. I thought that was for flowers and tomatos.
 
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well your dealing with another newbee that had not found the blessing of the RIU forums before I started growing. SOOOOOO I am using completly inferior tools, soil, and ferts. Hell I was even using indescent plant lights to start my very first clone. But I then went to floros and have now upgraded to HID lamps. Well all I have is Miracle grow and the nearest store that sells anything differant is 2 hours away and if you have the gas money to drive that far good for you but I do not. SOOOOOOOO I am upgrading things as I go and plan to purchase all new equipment (buckets, ferts, ph meter, substrate etc) the NEXT go around. Untill then I am atempting to save these ladies with what I can use NOW. Please stop making snide remarks about my unsatisfactory equipment.

I am glad to hear the joints are a good thing. also I was finding animal hair in my garden, donated by my loving puppies.
 
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MrMeanGreen

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Sorry if I offended, my point was that you can grow simple and grow well with inexpensive (subjective word inexpensive I know) materials. Your biggest expense is your nutes and additives, the more you spend (most of the time) the more you get if you use them right. I probably spend around £100 per yield (per month) and I coud spend more.
 
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knourgro

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hey man, i know that a zinc deficiency will show up as small leaf spotting all over the place. maybe something to look into
 
alotaball

alotaball

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MrMeanGreen said:
Sorry if I offended, my point was that you can grow simple and grow well with inexpensive (subjective word inexpensive I know) materials. Your biggest expense is your nutes and additives, the more you spend (most of the time) the more you get if you use them right. I probably spend around £100 per yield (per month) and I coud spend more.
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wheres your journal? The more you spend on nutes in additives does not determine anything ..Its all about just giving the plant what it needs .. when it needs it .. You can find growers using nearly no nutes or additives churning out quality meds .. its all about your level of knowledge.. and your willingness to learn more and read your plants.
 
alotaball

alotaball

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SterlingCannabis said:
alotaball could you please elaborate a little more? Could the spots be related to the bulging joints, as well as the red stems and trunk?
I think I am starving her but i am not sure since I am using a substrate with time released ferts, and that has been flushed (high PH and over fed). I feel my previous PH issues are not to blame since my soil is now testing in the 7.0 region for the last 2 weeks.

I flushed I did not add any ferts for almost a week while I let the pots dry out. Then hit them with 1 gallon each of 1/4 strength miracle grow all purpose food. I then watered out my soil PH over the course of the next week (ended veging under floros 18/6). (flowering under 600W HPS 12/12) Then giving them a gallon each of 1/2 strength Miracle grow Bloom buster 3 weeks ago. And the last feed was a watering of bat guano 1 tbs to 1 gallon water, which was 2 weeks ago with nothing but water and gnatrol (1/4 tsp-gallon water, 1/2 gallon to each plant, 6 and 3 days ago) till today. Today I mixed up one gallon full strength, and gave the plant in question 3/4 gallon and the second plant the remaining 1/4 gallon.
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Im not really comfortable telling you what you should do because I have not worked with time released miracle grow. Who knows whats locking out what .. or what might be deficient ... You can always do a mild foilar feed to keep the girls fed until you figure out the rootzone problems. Next time pick a grow medium where YOU can determine what the plant gets and when .. or if you like a self feeding soil.. go organic and make tea's or ammend the soil .. there is lots of post on supersoils ect on the forum. Sorry I cant help more.. If it was me .. I also would learn to clone.. take some cuts off of the girls so you still have plants if those continue to decline... then you can start fresh with the right stuff. Good luck!
 
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alotaball

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PS .. to the original poster.. if you have to go miracle grow or dont have a grow store close.. pick something that does not have time released nutes.. will make your life MUCH easier :) Pretty sure miracle grow organic and sunshine mix and a few others are not time release. You can google it and the homedepot growers have figured out all kinds of ways to grow quality meds with standard walmart or homedepot products!
 
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max316420

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alotaball said:
PS .. to the original poster.. if you have to go miracle grow or dont have a grow store close.. pick something that does not have time released nutes.. will make your life MUCH easier :) Pretty sure miracle grow organic and sunshine mix and a few others are not time release. You can google it and the homedepot growers have figured out all kinds of ways to grow quality meds with standard walmart or homedepot products!
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Home depot now carries promix and at a decent price
 
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SterlingCannabis

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I am in the process of gathering info on products that are easiest to maintain and begin my learning curve a little softer the second time through0
. thanks for the tips guys any journals that come to mind of people growing with depot supply's?
 
max316420

max316420

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My cousin uses it and hasn't run into any problems with it yet. Just make sure you add some extra dolomite lime to it.
 
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MrMeanGreen

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MrMeanGreen said:
Sorry if I offended, my point was that you can grow simple and grow well with inexpensive (subjective word inexpensive I know) materials. Your biggest expense is your nutes and additives, the more you spend (most of the time) the more you get if you use them right. I probably spend around £100 per yield (per month) and I coud spend more.
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alotaball said:
wheres your journal? The more you spend on nutes in additives does not determine anything ..Its all about just giving the plant what it needs .. when it needs it .. You can find growers using nearly no nutes or additives churning out quality meds .. its all about your level of knowledge.. and your willingness to learn more and read your plants.
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Is that right? Ya plant doesn't need Rhizotonic but the difference when used is fantastic. Ya plant doesn't need a bloom boost but adds 25-40% more weight throughout the grow. Ya plants don't need PK, ya plants don't need Superthrive, or budblood but without them your yield is considerably less or longer. Yes you can grow without all of the above but weight gained, quality increase and time lines far outways the cost. Read my post again, it states that "the more you spend (most of the time) the more you get if you use them right.". Key part being " if used right", buying em is one thing, knowing how to use em is another. I could buy a bag of spanners, don't mean I can fix a car.

Don't preach to me that you can get the same results with soil and water in the same time span, you can't and you know it.
 
alotaball

alotaball

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not preaching .. but I just wanted to clarify to a new grower .. its not what he buys.. its learning to grow. Id like to check out one of your grows..
 
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MrMeanGreen

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alotaball said:
not preaching .. but I just wanted to clarify to a new grower .. its not what he buys.. its learning to grow. Id like to check out one of your grows..
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I have 4 kids under 10, 2 smal businesses and a tent to manage. Don't have time for a journa but will try to put a few picks up today.
 
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alotaball

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MrMeanGreen said:
I have 4 kids under 10, 2 smal businesses and a tent to manage. Don't have time for a journa but will try to put a few picks up today.
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Thats Alot to juggle .. I have a 3 year old and a 3 month old myself.. sure makes things alot harder to get done. Looking forward to the pics
 
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MrMeanGreen

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alotaball said:
Thats Alot to juggle .. I have a 3 year old and a 3 month old myself.. sure makes things alot harder to get done. Looking forward to the pics
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Here ya go. Not alot of space to get a wider angle. Brief overview

1.2 x 2.4 tent
3 x 600w hps, cooltube, with added reflectors. DIY reflectors
2 ruck 6" fans
1 carbon filter
passive inlet

Grow.
2 x pineapple chunk
4 x tangerine dream
1 x Lemon haze

Had 4 week veg from clone. Now in 3rd week flower.
On a full canna diet.


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Sorry about the focus, taken on mobie phone.

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My home doctored cool tubes with added reflector wings.

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I have a monthly yield (give or take a few days) of approx 1kg. 7 plants go in every month and 7 plants yield every month. My clones stay in flower tent unti 10 mins before lights out and I transfer to veg area under cfl for remaining 6 hours the back in tent in the morning for lights on.

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These are my blue cheese at 2 weeks from clone (a bit behind as new strain brought in and they were in a bad way) will be moving into flower tent full time in about 2 weeks.
The liitle un's in the backgroung are sour diesel and casey jones for following set after cheese. Will keep them under cfl on slow cook.
 
knourgro

knourgro

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you can still get all those elements into your soil without spending a shitton though, you just need to research what plants and compunds have those elements naturally occuring in them then powder em up and add em in. it helps bud flavor alot to if you can cut out the chemically engineered store bought nutse and just focus on naturally occuring organic compunds
 
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SterlingCannabis

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cannabisconglomerate said:
Do not use vinager with MG...way too much acid. MG is acid based. try 7.0 ph h20 and 2.5 ml bloom booster.
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My water tests highly alkaline like deep red, with the MG it tests out at 7.5 (1tbs-1gallon). My soil also then tests out alkaline 8.5 checked by a friends digital meter. So i add 1 tbs (1/2 at a time checking ph both times) 5% vinegar per gallon water to reduce the water to around 6.5-6.0 in an attempt to keep the soil closer to the 7.0 I was aiming for and have achieved for 2 weeks now. Am I getting lucky or did I figure this all out correctly?

And I know... new soil is first on my list of needs before next grow lol
 
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