i agree with most of what you say...it is logical...and well thought out....the problem is however..the federal reserve..unless a steak is drove through the heart of that vampire there is NO solution .....
Yeah,they BETTER rethink that! Hademade toys and childrens clothing will not go away
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misshestermoffitt
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It'll be a lot easier to get the middle class working again if there were some jobs to be had. All the jobs are in China and India.
You can't cut off peoples only means of income like that, there will be rioting and looting in the streets. Maybe internet based sites like "looting is us" will get some business.
You can't cut off peoples only means of income like that, there will be rioting and looting in the streets. Maybe internet based sites like "looting is us" will get some business.
in order to create jobs you must have consumption....and in order to have consumption the economy must have confidence..in the future...and they dont..and money to spend that circulates within the economy..when you have money you go buy goods and services ..those goods and services require people to cater to you..or sell you those goods and services.truck them to the store..load and unload those items all across the country on loading docks and shiping facilitys.....and hopefully employee people to make those products and goods and services..when the government LOANS money into the economy..and that is how it gets here..it is all loaned into the economy...we..the american consumor...purchase things with that money..if we buy things that are made in our country then we employee people who end up seeing the proffit we spend..those people also support the same government as their tax dollars go to our government...when you buy products made from other countrys..the money that was printed now has left our shores..and if the economy is to continue..more money must be printed and loaned into the economy...because of legislation such as NAFTA..and GATT..and permanent most favored nation trade status for china...all under BILL CLINTON...we have a huge trade inballence with china and other countrys....sooo..the money is printed and loaned..and it leaves our shores..more money is printed loaned and it leaves our shores..this has been going on for decades now..what has happend..seeing as how all this money is loaned into the economy..is people get to where they can no longer borrow money....they are taped out...they have lived on borrowed money to long and now its time to pay the piper..by the way..guess who has all the money..and guess who has all the little lead based paint trinkets and crappy cars...all of wich depreciate....and they have all of our money....that ..is spent..and invested wisely...apreciates...everytime someone from our country goes and buys chinese..they are selling their own jobs to china...americans are fucking stupid...i have come to that conclusion long ago..
misshestermoffitt
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and what exactly is made in America that people can go and purchase? Nothing aside from homes and cars. How are we going to buy stuff that is American made to support the American economy if we don't make anything?
If we made some stuff, then there would be jobs, if there were jobs, then there would be spending.
You would be hard pressed to buy only things that were made in America and still be able to have the things you need.
If we made some stuff, then there would be jobs, if there were jobs, then there would be spending.
You would be hard pressed to buy only things that were made in America and still be able to have the things you need.
yea..you are..but there are things that you can buy that are american label..look at the label for country were it is made at...you can get new balance tennis shoes that are made in america...sock..t shirts and underwear you can get made in america..i only drive american company car's the part are made everywhere for it..but at least it helps..i only play american made guitars..you would be shocked..we still make stuff here..you just have to look..to buy it..and believe it or not..some of it is cheaper in price..but ive always found american made quality to be some of the best in the world for the price..i dont care what anyone says....
medicineman
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Then why are you so adamant that American workers are overpaid and can't compete with foriegn nations. With tarrifs and regulations on corporations, we could bring back the American dream, a job with a future.
misshestermoffitt
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So we can go around in our t-shirt and underwear with shoes on. How stupid we will look.
They might sew the stuff here but where is the fabric made ? There are no fabric distributers left in the United states. I used to work at a textile factory, everything came from CHINA and was cut and sewn here. It wasn't made here it was assembled here. There is a difference.
They might sew the stuff here but where is the fabric made ? There are no fabric distributers left in the United states. I used to work at a textile factory, everything came from CHINA and was cut and sewn here. It wasn't made here it was assembled here. There is a difference.
TheBrutalTruth
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The best solution to that (and to making America more competitive) is to cut taxes. Reduce the expense of doing business, reduce the cost of employing people, the cost of dealing with bureaucracy (specifically with at least simplifying the tax code even if there are no tax reductions) and business would once again be free to do what they need to do instead of having to have a team of lawyers, cpas, and insurance agents determine every small factor in any decision.
The problem was, is and always will be government. The idea that government produces jobs is ludicrous. If it wasn't taxing me, I'd be spending my money, and odds are that I'd be a lot more careful about purchasing American made goods. Money is a way of fulfilling demand, because it can be traded for goods and services.
No money, no trading, no trading, and you can only have a barter economy. If there is just a barter economy there are going to be a lot of jobs destroyed, because they rely mostly on providing a service, which can't really be bartered. How much is the 15 minutes of some one changing your oil worth, if you can just ditch the car and live off the land with out it?
If you only intend on producing your bare sustenance then there's going to be lots of people out of work.
Greed is good, it ensures that humanity is not a agricultural civilization chained to the fields like primitive societies.
HotNSexyMILF
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As a small business owner who specializes in children's clothing, I'd like to say that I'm not so sure as far as regular cotton and man made fibers since I don't deal in it, but I know for 100% fact (as it is what I use) that you can buy 100% organic cotton that is grown and woven right here in the U.S. Denim, jersey knits, flannels, terry cloth, woven, fleece. All 100% American, all 100% organic cotton, and all the different weaves of cotton needed for nearly any garment type desirable ....
misshestermoffitt
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All ours went overseas, it really screwed us over. We had to wait 6 months to get stuff in, put a huge crimp in production.
The place I worked at bought huge truckloads, it wasn't a small business by any means.
The place I worked at bought huge truckloads, it wasn't a small business by any means.
HotNSexyMILF
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I hear you Miss.. unfortunately in these days it seems to get that big the product has to be cheap, as that's where the larger market is.. too many people are used to the rediculous cheap prices of consuming products produced at near slave labor wages..
The bottom line is if people REALLY want the jobs to stay here, and for business to expand here, they have to vote with their wallet. That is the only way a truly free market can work. I'm so sick of hearing someone bitch about all the jobs going over seas as they walk into Walmart or Old Navy and buy crap made by people earning nearly nothing in sweatshops overseas..
The bottom line is if people REALLY want the jobs to stay here, and for business to expand here, they have to vote with their wallet. That is the only way a truly free market can work. I'm so sick of hearing someone bitch about all the jobs going over seas as they walk into Walmart or Old Navy and buy crap made by people earning nearly nothing in sweatshops overseas..
misshestermoffitt
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Well hell about every clothing manufacturerr has their shit made overseas.
I do shop at Wal-mart, but it's because there is only one grocery store in my town and they charge however much they want. I've seen the house the guy who owns that store lives in too, he could knock some prices down, but then who's going to clean his pool?
I can save an average of $1.50 to $2.00 per item by shopping out of town. I mostly only buy my food there and household products. I hate to buy clothes, it's such a punishment, nothing is made for people with long torso's and long arms, nothing ever fits right. I'm more about garage sales for clothes. At least they've been washed a bunch and aren't going to shrink after I wear them once.
I hate to buy jeans too, I have an actual ass and my thighs are not pencil like. I'm not fat, but I have womanly curves, jeans are all made for stick people.
I do shop at Wal-mart, but it's because there is only one grocery store in my town and they charge however much they want. I've seen the house the guy who owns that store lives in too, he could knock some prices down, but then who's going to clean his pool?
I can save an average of $1.50 to $2.00 per item by shopping out of town. I mostly only buy my food there and household products. I hate to buy clothes, it's such a punishment, nothing is made for people with long torso's and long arms, nothing ever fits right. I'm more about garage sales for clothes. At least they've been washed a bunch and aren't going to shrink after I wear them once.
I hate to buy jeans too, I have an actual ass and my thighs are not pencil like. I'm not fat, but I have womanly curves, jeans are all made for stick people.
medicineman
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Geeze, I can see you now, thanks for the description, sounds enticing,~LOL~. Just one question, I thought Wal-mart was a corporate owned store, is there a Walton living in your town? Otherwise maybe you were referring to the manager?Well hell about every clothing manufacturerr has their shit made overseas.
I do shop at Wal-mart, but it's because there is only one grocery store in my town and they charge however much they want. I've seen the house the guy who owns that store lives in too, he could knock some prices down, but then who's going to clean his pool?
I can save an average of $1.50 to $2.00 per item by shopping out of town. I mostly only buy my food there and household products. I hate to buy clothes, it's such a punishment, nothing is made for people with long torso's and long arms, nothing ever fits right. I'm more about garage sales for clothes. At least they've been washed a bunch and aren't going to shrink after I wear them once.
I hate to buy jeans too, I have an actual ass and my thighs are not pencil like. I'm not fat, but I have womanly curves, jeans are all made for stick people.
clinton signed NAFTA..what he done..was open the door to large corporations and companys to pack up and leave and make more money with less exspence.after they opened up the door then they beat the companys out of this country with a stick because it has become to expensive in this country to do bussiness...the stick the dems used to beat companys out of this country....here..ill give you just some of the names of the stick's that cost american companys and bussinessmen billion upon billion indeed..probably trillions to deal with...the EPA..OSHA.IRS.SOCIAL SECURTY ..local license and tax....i could go on forever..and all this shit costs money..so they just left the country..of course with alot of help from your politicians...and the idiots in this country always buying shit made in other countrys...remember next time you go hop into your toyota or honda...
misshestermoffitt
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No, I drive 30 miles to get to Walmart. We have a store that is a small local chain and it is expensive. Most items I can save over a dollar and closer to 2 by driving out of town.