Wut do the piggies in blue need?

smokablunt16

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Just wondering wut the boys in blue need to be able to obtain a search warrant to search the area around your house(even if its not your property) or your house in general? Do they have to let you know first?

and what evidence do they need to charge you for marijuana cultivation?

People I know just got busted and might say something like i 'might' be growing...can they go on that?

+rep for knowledgable and VERY helpful answers...
 

edux10

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do you have something to hide?

Po Po can do what ever they want whenever. They can come to your house say you are on probation (ike they did to me and I wans't) or you have traffic tickets or whatever. Sit you down outside, handcuffed, and proceede to search every bit or your house.

When you go to court you will either have to post a huge bail or sit in there till your court date. Mine was a month away.

Then when you finally go to court they will drop it. You return home after not paying rent cuz you are in jail and have nothing left. They laugh.
 

ElBarto

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It's called "probable cause".

People you know ratting you out would be more than enough I would think.
 

smokablunt16

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What kind of question is that? "do you have something to hide"?
I think a majority of the members on here have A LOT to hide...

Well I have nothing to hide NOW, due to them getting stolen, but I just dont want that kind of shit around my house..
 

JOEGALLO

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The probable cause thing is pretty much all they need. Someone can report you saying they know a house where bla bla bla. If they give the address and some other info then the cops check it out and depending on what they see / what they think they see, they might be able to obtain a warrent for search. Also like the first reply said, if you are on probation they can come at any reasonable time they want with no warning. This actually happened to me when I was younger and on probation. Tripped me out because I thought they only say that to scare you but my p.o. actually came by my house and checked it out. I think that is mostly if you are younger as they want to see what your living situation is like. Im sure there are a ton of other reasons why they would be able to obtain a warrent to search but cant really think of any right now. Maybe google it according to your state laws.
 

thelastpirate

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Just wondering wut the boys in blue need to be able to obtain a search warrant to search the area around your house(even if its not your property) or your house in general? Do they have to let you know first?

and what evidence do they need to charge you for marijuana cultivation?

People I know just got busted and might say something like i 'might' be growing...can they go on that?

+rep for knowledgable and VERY helpful answers...

As has been stated, they can get a warrant on the flimsiest of pretenses. They can use any means they want to enter your house or property. You can only fight back AFTER THE FACT!!! The first thing any good (sic) attorney will do is attack the valididty of the warrant, and the veracity of the probable cause.

Generally, they would need a reason to be suspicious of you in the first place. Take, for instance, these "people" you know might rat you out to save thier own miserable skins. Information given the police by someone already facing charges is suspect. They will do or say anything to get out of a jam and the courts wil usually recognize this. They would need a bit more than that to get a warrant that will hold up to scrutiny. Another thing to consider is that the cop only has to BELIEVE, that a warrant exists (doesn't actually have to have it or even see it), and that he is acting in good faith. Now they know what an attorney can fight, no judge wants to be overturned, or go before the judicial review. They will usually make certain that they are right before acting. Not always, tho.........
If the property is NOT yours, then you aint got a leg to stand on. All they need is the owners permission to search. You didn't leave your wallet there did you? Or any chip sacks, cigarette butts, soda cans etc. with your fingerprints?
Let me say this. They can CHARGE you with anything they want. What you need to worry about is what can they prove to CONVICT you.They will have to put you there at the scene with the plants to show that you had knowledge of them. This can be anything I mentioned above, shoe prints, etc. They can find all the plants they can burn, but without evidence that you were there, or had knowledge of them, don't sweat it. THEY will have to prove that the plants were yours, or that you knew about them, and helped tend them, YOU don't have to say anything except "Talk to the suit, he's the answer man".
The REALLY fucked up thing thats going on right now, and will only become more prevalent, is how they are learning to use their new-found powers to label drugs, gangs, internet porn, child molesters, and a host of other things as a "terroristic" threat. While I agree that some of those things NEED addressing, This piece of legislation is RIPE for abuse of power. The PATRIOT Act gives the powers that be (LEO) almost unlimited powers of search and seizure if the investigation involves terrorism or national security. They can get a warrant from a judge WITHOUT specifying what the warrant is for, in the name of Nat'l security. With a warrant of this type, they can enter unannounced, whether you are home or not, seize anything that they see fit. They can gain access to credit card info, even your library records, and the librarian could face charges if you are told about it!!! That PATRIOT act is the scariest piece of legislation to come out of washington EVER! And now there is no fixing the situation. All the government has to do is label something as "terrorist" or "terroristic" and it's pretty much over. You become an enemy combatant at that point, with NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER!!! No phone call, no bail/bond, and they can hold you indefinately.
Hope I answered your question. If you are gonna fuck around skirting the law, be sure you can afford an attorney, and a GOOD one. Be certain that you will be bailed out of jail by laying some cash on a bondsman before hand. You can't do shit while you are sitting in a cell without an attorney and a bondsman. DO NOT RELY on anyone else to help you or to get you out!!! (This is usually where you will find out who your friends REALLY are!!) Generally, a PD will not go for aquittal, rather they will try and plead it down. A paid attorney will at least make sure that all the I's are dotted and T's are crossed and that the original warrant was issued in good faith, based upon credible information. This is where he will attack the credibility of the "snitch", and any other eveidence they may or may not have. It's a Cops world in that courtroom, and there are ALOT of innocent (or MOSTLY innocent) folks in jail due to bad planning!!!
 

NoDrama

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Cop? no biggie, know lots of cops that smoke the ganja, I even know one who is a crack fiend. Being a cop is just like any other job, you do what you get paid to do.
 

JOEGALLO

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Cop? no biggie, know lots of cops that smoke the ganja, I even know one who is a crack fiend. Being a cop is just like any other job, you do what you get paid to do.
exactly. i have ran into some asshole cops but have came across some pretty damn cool ones too. just depends on how you talk/act with them most of the time. then again when the asshole ones are around .... that sucks.
 

NautiK

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Eh im cool with cops if cops are cool i have no problems. ive just never met any cool cops. ive been profiled cause of my car, lost my car. get pulled over for random shit when i know its not a legitimate reason to stop me yet they keep me in the car so i cant see my license plate lights cause theyre 'out' when i can see em in my car from my back up camera...Im not saying all cops are assholes but the ones ive ever run into are. Ive put some thought into being a cop but i dont want my face plastered all over the tv as the cop who smokes pot...

I sometimes forget cops are people vs. propaganda and a way to control the masses with fear of jail sentences or hefty fines.

Every time i get stopped i can guarantee 200$ worth of fines base cost...and thats IF i decide i feel like paying the damn ticket. i have a shoebox full of them. Not all the tickets were pointless. I got a reckless for doing 85 in a 65(highway) at 3am in alaska(roads are emtpy) so i figured itd be ok but it as my own fault. And oregon popo stopped me in grants pass for suspicion of speeding in my honda(and i wasnt, no bullshit) and impounded my car instead of letting my friend who was next to me drive it home. lost my car :( just a reason to stop me.
 
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