stumpjumper
Well-Known Member
Where is everyone?
here looking for news on the busts up in the UP
http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/story.aspx?id=809587#.UHAQCE3hpdoWhat busts?
Actually the # of plants is only referred to in the LARA registration process and guidelines. SO even if you had 72+ plants you would simply be out of compliance with LARA's guideline and NOT the "law". The "law" is simply an affirmative defense to the "crime" and specifically does NOT contain any "limits". My point here is that exceeding your number of plants breaks no "law" and any criminal proceeding should be unlawful from the governments perspective.Please, why would I go through all this, just to break the law protecting me? If I wanted to grow illegally I wouldn't be registered with the state..
If you were attacked by a man with a knife and shot him to death, you HAVE committed a "crime" and broken the "law". Here you have a "self defense" or affirmative defense to the crime of murder.I'm not very familiar with affirmative defense. Other than it basically says you can use a medical defense if caught with cannabis and not registered with the state. As long as the affirmative defense doesn't include amounts, everything you just said makes sense.
Where are you getting this shit? The 12 plant max per patient and 5 patient max per caregiver were part of the MMMP law before LARA even got involved.Actually the # of plants is only referred to in the LARA registration process and guidelines. SO even if you had 72+ plants you would simply be out of compliance with LARA's guideline and NOT the "law". The "law" is simply an affirmative defense to the "crime" and specifically does NOT contain any "limits". My point here is that exceeding your number of plants breaks no "law" and any criminal proceeding should be unlawful from the governments perspective.
In other words, LEOs in no way could legally justify using "just cause" to negate your Constitutional rights (search and/or seizure).
Am I wrong about this?
TheMan13
Unless you have had an attorney or judge tell you this, yes you are wrong about that.Actually the # of plants is only referred to in the LARA registration process and guidelines. SO even if you had 72+ plants you would simply be out of compliance with LARA's guideline and NOT the "law". The "law" is simply an affirmative defense to the "crime" and specifically does NOT contain any "limits". My point here is that exceeding your number of plants breaks no "law" and any criminal proceeding should be unlawful from the governments perspective.
In other words, LEOs in no way could legally justify using "just cause" to negate your Constitutional rights (search and/or seizure).
Am I wrong about this?
TheMan13
... The most recent Michigan Supreme Court decision.Where are you getting this shit? The 12 plant max per patient and 5 patient max per caregiver were part of the MMMP law before LARA even got involved.
I read and understand a lot. I have worked in both government and law enforcement. I have a whole bunch of degrees with honors ...Unless you have had an attorney or judge tell you this, yes you are wrong about that.