Winterizing Rosin?

Go go n chill said:

https://www.laballey.com/products/ethanol-200-proof-pure-100-undenatured-acs-usp-grade-tax-paid-1-gallon
Is this what you use?

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That's pretty $ for just 1gal of 200proof food grade. I buy in bulk, 5g at a time.

Starting product is trim/popcorn. Cryo Ethanol wash trim. Evap, purge, decarb. Put "crude" into SPD system. Out comes distillate. This is of course you dont bish yp all your crude while "trying" to make a run. Make sure you decarb the crude before. Just trust me, if not, please post up pics of the crude that made it's way all into your cold trap and possible vacuum pump cause you didnt listen.

Bublonichronic said:

You can use fancy equipment...or just put some dry ice in your etoh and make a nice ethanol chronic ice tea ...I know it’s fun to play Walter white, believe me I did it and had lots of fun, but sometimes there is a easy rout that’s almost just as efficient

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If it were easy, all you guys wouldnt be asking questions here would ya?
Nope!

Edit, better yet, show me how easy it is!

DemonTrich said:

That's pretty $ for just 1gal of 200proof food grade. I buy in bulk, 5g at a time.

Starting product is trim/popcorn. Cryo Ethanol wash trim. Evap, purge, decarb. Put "crude" into SPD system. Out comes distillate. This is of course you dont bish yp all your crude while "trying" to make a run. Make sure you decarb the crude before. Just trust me, if not, please post up pics of the crude that made it's way all into your cold trap and possible vacuum pump cause you didnt listen.

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Ya I’m sure there’s a huge learning curve even if you listened. Pricey equipment but I’m sure it pays off or you wouldn’t be doing it

DemonTrich said:

If it were easy, all you guys wouldnt be asking questions here would ya?
Nope!

Edit, better yet, show me how easy it is!

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I haven’t asked a question in a long time...in fact a lot of the teks being used I attributed to back when we were all learning this together, now wether people are going to admit to it or not is another thing...but it is easy, and I think you know it too ...but do you distill off your Terps before you decarb and do your whole process ?

I make distillate. No Terps, smell, taste etc. I dont care about Terps. Those are long gone.

Oh, I would typically add them back into my final product to add a little aroma and flavor, but they have a lot of other uses too like soaps candles ect...ya know, waste not n what not

I do add Terps back in my carts to thin it out a bit. I wasnt sure what you were asking.

DemonTrich said:

I do add Terps back in my carts to thin it out a bit. I wasnt sure what you were asking.

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Hey DT,are you using DE in your buchners?

DemonTrich said:

I do add Terps back in my carts to thin it out a bit. I wasnt sure what you were asking.

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Well if your adding terps why not extract the terps first then do your processing so you don’t have to buy essential oils off amazon or wherever ? That it what I was ultimately getting to, I like the idea of only using what the plant gives, I know a lot of plants make a lot of the same terps and if it’s a pure extract what’s the difference if the limonene or whatever came from a lemon or whatever other plant, but I just like not having to use outside sources

natureboygrower said:

Hey DT,are you using DE in your buchners?

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Not quite

I have an assortment of filter agents I use.....well I try.not to use unless I screw up with my initial wash. Aluminum oxide, celite 545, magsil, activated charcoal are always on hand. Depending on which pic I posted, it was either celite 545 and or ac.

@Bublonichronic
Doing an ethanol wash, does remove some Terps, reason why my.recovered Etoh smells like terps. Vac purging and decarbing also removes them.

When you run crude in a SPD system, your fracrioning out each step (residual solvent, Terps, thc/cbd, tails). Hence the 3 cows used. Your cold trap will also pick up Terps. It's not an issue to reintroduce Terps when I make carts. When I dab my distillate, I dont want to taste Terps or anything at all. Reason why I dab distillate vs smoking flower. I dont want to smoke plant material, lipids, waxes, Terps, etc.

Ahh I see, so your just not interested in them, I know some will be caught in your cold trap but a lot will be lost , to each their own I guess

I run bulk batches of material with many strains mixed. Its impossible to fraction out and save individual strain Terps. So it's a mute point in my lab.

Understandable, but let’s face it most people here prolly arnt goin that big so to my original point, soaking material in dry ice and ethanol the straining through a cheesecloth then a couple coffee filters will give them excellent sap/shatter/budder

Bublonichronic said:

Understandable, but let’s face it most people here prolly arnt goin that big so to my original point, soaking material in dry ice and ethanol the straining through a cheesecloth then a couple coffee filters will give them excellent sap/shatter/budder

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Pentane is far more selective than ethanol. Also, adding dry ice to ethanol causes it to furiously bubble. The escaping CO2 evaporates your ethanol as a surprising rate.

There is a rig that works pretty good for recovering the ethanol from Extract Craft. It is kind of slow and hella noisy but it is worth the 600 bucks if ethanol is your thing.

Pentane allows you to soak your material for hours if you wish and does not require the winterizatioin of the the extracted product. Also it is far less likely to get you into the news the Butane.l

And Pentane is easy to recover. OilXGreen sells a $150 system fro recovering Pentane from an extraction mixture.

The cool thing about Pentane, besides its superior selectivity, is that that it boils at body temperature. It is stable to work with, hot water makes it boil, ice water makes it condense. Cosmic.

You sound exactly like their sales rep. You even use their word exactly. And your a super new member. Oilxgreen sales spam.

2+2=4

DemonTrich said:

You sound exactly like their sales rep. You even use their word exactly. And your a super new member. Oilxgreen sales spam.

2+2=4

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You said what I was thinking

Its not too difficult. Oilx makes a thread with no interest weeks ago. He makes a few posts in said thread, still not a lot of traffic. So they make a new account to try and draw in traffic praising how good pentane(lmao) and their hard part is.

Then tells adding dry ice to ethanol will evap the ethanol, is lmfao!.etoh has a BP of 86.7c. It only evaporates with heat, or air blowing over the top, not with dry ice. Or my 10 gallon etoh wash with 100lbs dry ice would have left me with zero etoh left.

4+4=8

One could buy a lot of equipment/glass with that $150 +$600 recovery system..

You might look at 710spirits. You can score 5 gals for like 110 shipped.

I add an additional .2375 gallons of distilled water to my 5g 710spirits to get the 4.75g of 200 proof etoh to about 95% azeotrope. 190 proof has proved to me the better winterizing solvent versus 200 proof.

I use only food grade, not denatured with n-heptane ethanol. I dont mind spending a little extra $ for a food grade product vs one with bad solvents added to get around thendmfederal excise tax.