Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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DIY-HP-LED

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the question should be: with everything you've read, direct statements from our leaders quoted daily, how confident do you feel taking the vaccine?

for Gods sakes they don't even want to give us $1200 for the job they took away so we can pay rent.

sick fvcks..the very same Bill that was greased through Congress sits with the exact same people saying 'no we won't help the american people merry fvcking chritmas, now..why do you think that is?

wouldn't you agree we have two countries?

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white people get Regeneron..blacks- you're on your own..bet you they want to give the vaccine to black populace first..just in case there's any unfortunate circumstances.
Scientists and doctors made this call, not politicians because nobody trusts politicians, but people with brains and education trust scientists, because they know who and what they are. Science cannot happen with out integrity, incorrect data leads nowhere but to embarrassment and if it's fraudulent the end of a career. Unlike politics, there is no room at all for bullshit in science or engineering, you are always caught, or live in fear of it.
 

waterproof808

Well-Known Member
the question should be: with everything you've read, direct statements from our leaders quoted daily, how confident do you feel taking the vaccine?

for Gods sakes they don't even want to give us $1200 for the job they took away so we can pay rent.

sick fvcks..the very same Bill that was greased through Congress sits with the exact same people saying 'no we won't help the american people merry fvcking chritmas, now..why do you think that is?

wouldn't you agree we have two countries?

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white people get Regeneron..blacks- you're on your own..bet you they want to give the vaccine to black populace first..just in case there's any unfortunate circumstances.
My state is planning on giving it to prisoners first after healthcare workers and elderly in long term care facilities.
 

Michael Huntherz

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This isn't the zika vaccine, it's an mRNA vaccine, perhaps you should find out how it actually works? Also the progress in biology and genetic technology has improved vastly in the past decade, indeed it is a fast moving field where progress in understanding happens weekly. It is a global enterprise involving millions of scientists from a variety of subspecialties all connected by the internet, so progress is very fast. The trial times for vaccines has been shortened in general and will continue to, especially for the mRNA vaccines, since most future vaccines will be based on this technology. They hit it out of the ball park with this vaccine in terms of efficacy and safety and will continue to do so with future ones.

An mRNA strand can only produce the protein it is programed for and nothing else, the strand is encapsulated in a stabilizing fat bubble and is absorbed into muscle tissue where it uses the cells resources to assemble the spike protein your immune system becomes trained to recognize. Your genetic code is read in triplet chucks and transcribed into mRNA that leaves the cell nucleus and assembles the proteins you need to survive every second of every day you are alive. Your DNA is not just a copy of you, it is a biochemical database your cells use all the time and mRNA is how that database is read, mRNA creates proteins from a combination of 20 some amino acids floating around in your cells cytoplasm using ribosomes to do the assembly in a process called translation.
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You don't take the vaccine just for yourself, you take it to protect others too, it might require caring about them to take the risk, minimal though it might be. Trudeau will roll up his sleeve on national TV as will all other government officials, if a politician has the guts to do it, so do I, since I consider my self to be a better human being than many of them.
I like this for the pedantry (nerdy smart words), but I love it for the compassion. Caring about “strangers” is the definition of the word “hero.” Compassion is cool. Cool is a stupid, perhaps insincere and cynical idea, but if it exists; “Cool” should be synonymous with caring for the lives and wellness of those whom we have no material interest in caring about
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I like this for the pedantry (nerdy smart words), but I love it for the compassion. Caring about “strangers” is the definition of the word “hero.” Compassion is cool. Cool is a stupid, perhaps insincere and cynical idea, but if it exists; “Cool” should be synonymous with caring for the lives and wellness of those whom we have no material interest in caring about
When ya talk about science it's helpful to use the terms! I could have used liposome instead of fat bubble, but fat bubble works fine for this kind of discussion and explanation. Personally I like looking up words I don't understand, but I've read science text books that over did it to an extreme degree! Those sonsofbitches couldn't write their way out of a wet fucking paper bag. When you understand something well you can explain it to a barmaid, Feynman could and I always liked his lectures. He spoke with a strong jersey accent and went to a regular high school, you didn't wanna try to bullshit this guy with big words or math. :lol:
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Richard Feynman - The Character of Physical Law (1964)
 

Frank Nitty

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I know you and I have communicated before and we got along fine, so I was a bit surprised. After losing most of my family to Trumpism I am skittish. Sorry, man. I respect your anti-government stance even though I disagree with it. I know lots of anti-state folks and anarchists and some are my close friends. We don’t have to agree on everything to get along.
Naw bro,you and I will always be good. I'm not anti government, I'm anti old ass laws that have nothing to do with the world today...
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Naw bro,you and I will always be good. I'm not anti government, I'm anti old ass laws that have nothing to do with the world today...
I guess yer against the second amendment too, I agree, time they got rid of it. It's only purpose was so the state could draft you and your gun, fuck them, let them buy the gun!
 
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Michael Huntherz

Well-Known Member
When ya talk about science it's helpful to use the terms! I could have used liposome instead of fat bubble, but fat bubble works fine for this kind of discussion and explanation. Personally I like looking up words I don't understand, but I've read science text books that over did it to an extreme degree! Those sonsofbitches couldn't write their way out of a wet fucking paper bag. When you understand something well you can explain it to a barmaid, Feynman could and I always liked his lectures. He spoke with a strong jersey accent and went to a regular high school, you didn't wanna try to bullshit this guy with big words or math. :lol:
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Richard Feynman - The Character of Physical Law (1964)
Feynman is still the shit. I own a copy of The Feynman Lectures on CD.
 

Frank Nitty

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I guess yer against the second amendment too, I agree, time they got rid of it. It's only purpose was so the state could draft you and your gun, fuck them, let them buy the gun!
There should be regulations on who gets to own a gun... Even more on people who work for law enforcement... They all should have INTENSE psychiatric evaluations, see how they were raised, what they believe in, were they bullied or were they bullies growing up, prejudices toward others and all that...Everyone of every color who applies for any job in law enforcement where they have to carry a weapon... I'm not really into the political process myself because I don't have enough money to be a factor in anything, you have to have money to make a difference in this world, words alone will never be enough, but that is just my opinion...
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
There should be regulations on who gets to own a gun... Even more on people who work for law enforcement... They all should have INTENSE psychiatric evaluations, see how they were raised, what they believe in, were they bullied or were they bullies growing up, prejudices toward others and all that...Everyone of every color who applies for any job in law enforcement where they have to carry a weapon... I'm not really into the political process myself because I don't have enough money to be a factor in anything, you have to have money to make a difference in this world, words alone will never be enough, but that is just my opinion...
If you don't think a small group of determined people can change the world, tell me when it has been otherwise? :wink:
 

TacoMac

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My state is planning on giving it to prisoners first after healthcare workers and elderly in long term care facilities.
It's the smart play.

In enclosed environments like that, Covid has a field day. Then, inevitably, the guards and staff take it home with them and it spreads like wildfire from there.

Edit to add: You have to remember that prisons aren't schools, business offices or sports training camps that can shut down a few weeks until an outbreak blows over. They're up and running 24/7.
 

Frank Nitty

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Please tell me how you would enforce your regulation ideas against gun owning peaceful people...would you use men with guns to do it ?
Do you think that people who are mentally unstable should have a gun??? What do you think would happen if said people were told that they would have to give up their guns??? Look I don't know the answer, I just think that anyone who wants to own a gun or be in law enforcement should have a SERIOUS mental health evaluation... Damn, I thought this thread was about whether or not we would take the vaccine...
 

Michael Huntherz

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Do you think that people who are mentally unstable should have a gun??? What do you think would happen if said people were told that they would have to give up their guns??? Look I don't know the answer, I just think that anyone who wants to own a gun or be in law enforcement should have a SERIOUS mental health evaluation... Damn, I thought this thread was about whether or not we would take the vaccine...
I think anyone who wants to own a gun should know how to operate one and maintain it, there should be a basic education requirement. I say this as a gun owner who grew up in Idaho and started shooting when I was six years old. I also think law-enforcement should have to have regular psychological evaluations and de-escalation training of the best possible kind before being armed. I don’t think psychological assessment of citizens for gun ownership is logistically feasible nor desirable unless they have clear indications of violent behavior as an adult, then maybe, but otherwise I agree.

I will take any vaccine that they make that doesn’t potentially cause anaphylaxis, since that’s my bane. Asthma as a youngling, and anaphylaxis from aspirin as an adult, bodies are weird.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I think anyone who wants to own a gun should know how to operate one and maintain it, there should be a basic education requirement. I say this as a gun owner who grew up in Idaho and started shooting when I was six years old. I also think law-enforcement should have to have regular psychological evaluations and de-escalation training of the best possible kind before being armed. I don’t think psychological assessment of citizens for gun ownership is logistically feasible nor desirable unless they have clear indications of violent behavior as an adult, then maybe, but otherwise I agree.

I will take any vaccine that they make that doesn’t potentially cause anaphylaxis, since that’s my bane. Asthma as a youngling, and anaphylaxis from aspirin as an adult, bodies are weird.
I believe the two reactions in the UK were with people who carried eppy pens and I think they were ok. No egg products in mRNA vaccines and not much else except a fat bubble and mRNA strands stabilized inside them. Still take precautions and be prepared for a reaction with help close by and consult your doctor.
 
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