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DIY-HP-LED

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CDC: Color-coded map shows where Americans need to wear masks again, and where you can go maskless, outside of schools

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People in orange and red counties should wear masks indoors in public, the CDC said Tuesday. CDC Covid Data Tracker

  • The CDC now recommends that fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors in public in certain areas.
  • A color-coded map of the US shows the zones where masks are recommended.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now recommending that fully vaccinated people put their masks back on when indoors in public, at least in the areas of the US where COVID-19 is spreading fastest.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said Tuesday that "the Delta variant behaves uniquely differently" compared with other versions of the virus and that vaccinated people "may be contagious and spread the virus to others."

But the CDC isn't recommending that everyone mask up again.

The agency's new guidance is limited to places where COVID-19 transmission is deemed "substantial" or "high," meaning there are either more than 50 cases per 100,000 people in the area, over a seven-day period, or the COVID-19 test positivity rate is higher than 5%.

The one glaring exception to that rule is in K-12 schools nationwide, where the CDC is now recommending everyone mask up to protect kids and teachers.

The main reason for the change in the CDC guidance is that, in areas where a lot of virus is circulating, the risk of getting infected, even for vaccinated people, is now very high. And while vaccination helps protect people from heading to the hospital or, eventually, dying from the disease, it is not a perfect shield against COVID-19. Vaccinated people can get sick and prolong the pandemic, too, by spreading the virus.

"That's why we are saying, in areas of substantial or high transmission, even if you are vaccinated, that we believe it's important to wear a mask in those settings," Walensky added.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Some people in Missouri are getting vaccinated against Covid-19 in secret, doctor says. They fear backlash from loved ones who oppose the vaccines

CNN —
The Covid-19 vaccine has become so polarizing that some people in Missouri are getting inoculated in secret for fear of backlash from their friends and family who oppose vaccination, a doctor told CNN Wednesday.

“They’ve had some experience that’s sort of changed their mind from the viewpoint of those in their family, those in their friendship circles or their work circles. And they came to their own decision that they wanted to get a vaccine,” said Dr. Priscilla Frase, a hospitalist and chief medical information officer at Ozarks Healthcare in West Plains, Missouri.

“They did their own research on it, and they talked to people and made the decisions themselves,” Frase told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “But even though they were able to make that decision themselves, they didn’t want to have to deal with the peer pressure or the outbursts from other people about them … ‘giving in to everything.’”

In a hospital produced video, Frase said one pharmacist at her hospital told her “they’ve had several people come in to get vaccinated who have tried to sort of disguise their appearance and even went so far as to say, ‘please, please, please don’t let anybody know that I got this vaccine.’”

Frase told CNN if a patient asks for privacy to get vaccinated, the hospital tries to accommodate the request – whether at the drive-thru window or at their cars.

“Anything we can do to get people in a place that they’re comfortable receiving the vaccine,” Frase said. “It’s not a large number, but every single person that we can reach who wants to get vaccinated and we can provide that for them, that’s a win. And we take every win that we can get.”

Missouri has 41% of its population fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state is one of 49 in the US experiencing at least a 10% surge in new Covid-19 cases over last week, data from Johns Hopkins University shows.

Unvaccinated patients are getting sicker quicker
Frase said her hospital had 33 patients admitted with Covid-19 as of Wednesday and she’s expecting that number to rise.

“The patients that are coming in are generally younger than what we saw before. It’s more people requiring a lot more oxygen, a lot quicker,” Frase said.

“The majority of people we’ve admitted have not been vaccinated,” she added.

“The biggest thing that I think has been shocking for us is, back in the fall, in the winter, it took us four months to get to our peak admitted patients, which is around 22. It’s taken us 30 days to exceed that and be up to 33 today.” Frase said.

And it’s not just Frase’s hospital that is dealing with an influx of patients in Missouri.

The CoxHealth health system said it’s expanding morgue capacity in due to an increase in Covid-19 related deaths.

“We’ve actually brought in a portable piece of technology that allows bodies to be cooled and placed outside the morgue. We have had to expand that because the mortality has gone up so much lately,” CoxHealth President and CEO Steve Edwards said during a news briefing in Springfield-Greene County Tuesday.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Canada has coronavirus vaccine for all who eligible, earlier than promised -Trudeau

OTTAWA (Reuters) -Canada has enough coronavirus vaccine to inoculate everyone who is eligible nearly two months earlier than had been promised, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Tuesday, ahead of a likely election in which his record on fighting the pandemic will be center stage.

Trudeau had pledged that every Canadian who wanted to be vaccinated would receive two shots of vaccine by the end of September. He told a televised news conference on Tuesday that his Liberal government had bought more than 66 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines, enough to inoculate everyone who was eligible.

"So not only have we kept that promise, we've gotten there ahead of schedule," he said.

"We have done extraordinarily well. We are at the top of the world in terms of vaccinations," Trudeau said in Moncton, New Brunswick.

As of July 17, 79.7% of Canadians aged 12 and above had received one shot and 57.5% had been given two shots of the Moderna, AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines. The comparative U.S. figures as of July 26 were 66.5% and 57.5%.

Trudeau also said Canada was likely to see an increase in coronavirus cases among unvaccinated people over the coming months due to variants of the virus.

Aides say Trudeau is set to trigger a snap federal election in the months ahead, two years ahead of schedule. One of the main campaigning points will how the Liberals dealt with COVID-19.

Recent opinion polls put the Liberals ahead of their Conservative rivals but not necessarily by enough to win back the parliamentary majority they lost in 2019. Trudeau first came to power in late 2015.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The US is returning to early pandemic surges and restrictions. It’s time to compel people to do the right thing, expert says

CNN —
It has been months since Covid-19 vaccines were made available to most of the US population and things are looking much more like they did early in the pandemic: cases are surging, events are being postponed and restrictions are back.

The culprit is the insufficient rate of vaccinations, and a solution may be to mandate that people take action to protect themselves and their community, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and a member of the US Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine advisory committee, Dr. Paul Offit said.

“We’ve hit a wall,” Offit told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Wednesday. “We’ve gotten to the point where you have to compel people to do the right thing.”

Initial enthusiasm to get vaccinated has dwindled and many who haven’t done so express hesitancy or resistance to getting vaccinated. Currently, 49.3% of the US population is fully vaccinated, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention – a far cry from the 70 to 85% that experts have estimated would be needed to slow or stop the spread of the virus.

“There was a time we were giving three million doses a day. If we’d stayed that course, we could be at roughly 80% population immunity,” Offit said.

And case numbers are on the rise again. There are 49 states seeing a surge in cases, and 35 those are seeing a seven-day average of new cases at least 50% greater than last week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Wednesday’s Washington Nationals MLB game against the Philadelphia Phillies was postponed after 12 members of the Nationals – four players and eight staff members – tested positive for Covid-19.

The climbing case numbers have pushed some areas to return to mask mandates:

The mayor of Atlanta issued an executive order Wednesday requiring masks in all indoor public places.

In Kansas, state employees and visitors will be required to wear masks indoors starting Monday.

The Pentagon implemented an indoor mask mandate regardless of vaccination status.

But other local leaders are pushing back against the return to pre-vaccine precautions.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp tweeted Wednesday that he will not issue any mask mandates or lockdowns in the state.

Georgia is one of the 35 states where new cases this week are more than 50% higher than last week. Currently 38.5% of the state’s population is fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.
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xtsho

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Some people in Missouri are getting vaccinated against Covid-19 in secret, doctor says. They fear backlash from loved ones who oppose the vaccines

CNN —
The Covid-19 vaccine has become so polarizing that some people in Missouri are getting inoculated in secret for fear of backlash from their friends and family who oppose vaccination, a doctor told CNN Wednesday.

“They’ve had some experience that’s sort of changed their mind from the viewpoint of those in their family, those in their friendship circles or their work circles. And they came to their own decision that they wanted to get a vaccine,” said Dr. Priscilla Frase, a hospitalist and chief medical information officer at Ozarks Healthcare in West Plains, Missouri.

“They did their own research on it, and they talked to people and made the decisions themselves,” Frase told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “But even though they were able to make that decision themselves, they didn’t want to have to deal with the peer pressure or the outbursts from other people about them … ‘giving in to everything.’”

In a hospital produced video, Frase said one pharmacist at her hospital told her “they’ve had several people come in to get vaccinated who have tried to sort of disguise their appearance and even went so far as to say, ‘please, please, please don’t let anybody know that I got this vaccine.’”

Frase told CNN if a patient asks for privacy to get vaccinated, the hospital tries to accommodate the request – whether at the drive-thru window or at their cars.

“Anything we can do to get people in a place that they’re comfortable receiving the vaccine,” Frase said. “It’s not a large number, but every single person that we can reach who wants to get vaccinated and we can provide that for them, that’s a win. And we take every win that we can get.”

Missouri has 41% of its population fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state is one of 49 in the US experiencing at least a 10% surge in new Covid-19 cases over last week, data from Johns Hopkins University shows.

Unvaccinated patients are getting sicker quicker
Frase said her hospital had 33 patients admitted with Covid-19 as of Wednesday and she’s expecting that number to rise.

“The patients that are coming in are generally younger than what we saw before. It’s more people requiring a lot more oxygen, a lot quicker,” Frase said.

“The majority of people we’ve admitted have not been vaccinated,” she added.

“The biggest thing that I think has been shocking for us is, back in the fall, in the winter, it took us four months to get to our peak admitted patients, which is around 22. It’s taken us 30 days to exceed that and be up to 33 today.” Frase said.

And it’s not just Frase’s hospital that is dealing with an influx of patients in Missouri.

The CoxHealth health system said it’s expanding morgue capacity in due to an increase in Covid-19 related deaths.

“We’ve actually brought in a portable piece of technology that allows bodies to be cooled and placed outside the morgue. We have had to expand that because the mortality has gone up so much lately,” CoxHealth President and CEO Steve Edwards said during a news briefing in Springfield-Greene County Tuesday.
Crazy. I'm sure glad that my family isn't a bunch of uneducated troglodytes. Fearing backlash for getting the vaccine. Good grief. It's amazing how stupid those trumpers are. They're anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-college, anti-vaccine, etc... The only thing they aren't is anti-moron because that's what they are. Morons. The worst America has to offer.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Crazy. I'm sure glad that my family isn't a bunch of uneducated troglodytes. Fearing backlash for getting the vaccine. Good grief. It's amazing how stupid those trumpers are. They're anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-college, anti-vaccine, etc... The only thing they aren't is anti-moron because that's what they are. Morons. The worst America has to offer.
Delta and effective vaccines are putting a ton of pressure on the antivaxxers and Trumpers, this is a sign they are starting to crack. It's another fracture line in the GOP along with the big lie, only this one cuts much deeper and deadlier. Most of these hardcore Trumpers I see on TV are highly vulnerable to covid, middle aged and often in poor health. Trump rallies with no masks and delta flying around the unvaxxed crowd of morons could be a disaster.

They don't like masks or vaccines and have broken new ground in Darwin's theory, self selection for extinction.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's love thy neighbor, not fuck thy neighbor and do unto others as you would have them do unto you, not do them in with ignorance and selfishness. Christians protect their children, they don't gamble their lives away for lies.
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COVID-19 live updates: Dozens of cases across US linked to Christian summer camp
At least 75 cases in 17 U.S. states have been linked to the camp.

The United States is facing a COVID-19 surge this summer as the more contagious delta variant spreads.

More than 611,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 and over 4.1 million people have died worldwide, according to real-time data compiled by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

Just 57.6% of Americans ages 12 and up are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC on Tuesday, citing new science on the transmissibility of the delta variant, changed its mask guidance to now recommend everyone in areas with substantial or high levels of transmission -- vaccinated or not -- wear a face covering in public, indoor settings.
 

UncleBuck

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Crazy. I'm sure glad that my family isn't a bunch of uneducated troglodytes. Fearing backlash for getting the vaccine. Good grief. It's amazing how stupid those trumpers are. They're anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-college, anti-vaccine, etc... The only thing they aren't is anti-moron because that's what they are. Morons. The worst America has to offer.
Youre so fucking retarded that you tried to tell me Portland was destroyed
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ravages of COVID surge evident inside Missouri hospital
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OSAGE BEACH, Mo. (AP) — Daryl Barker was passionately against a COVID-19 vaccination, and so were his relatives. Then 10 of them got sick and Barker, at just 31, ended up in a Missouri intensive care unit fighting for his life.

It's a scenario playing out time and again at Lake Regional Hospital in Osage Beach, where 22 people died from the virus in the first 23 days of July. Many other hospitals across Missouri are fighting the same battle, the result of the fast-spreading delta variant invading a state with one of the nation's lowest vaccination rates, especially in rural areas.

The Associated Press was given access inside Lake Regional, where just two months ago, no one was hospitalized with the virus. Doctors, nurses and staff at the hospital in the heart of the Lake of the Ozarks region are now dealing with an onslaught of COVID-19 patients — some of them struggling to stay alive.


“We’ve had a big-time delta virus surge here. A lot of admissions, a lot of people who are very sick and are dying," said Dr. Harbaksh Sangha, Lake Regional's chief medical officer.

“So as a human being it’s very frustrating, but as a physician we just take care of whatever we get.”

Just 47.5% of Missourians have initiated vaccination, nearly 10 percentage points less than the nation as a whole. Around Osage Beach, a town of about 5,000 people that straddles two counties, state data shows only 38.6% of Camden County residents and 26.7% in Miller County have started the process.

Barker, of Branson, about 120 miles (190 kilometers) southwest of Osage Beach, understands the hesitancy.

“I was strongly against getting the vaccine,” Barker said through labored breathing. “Just because we’re a strong conservative family."

In the U.S., many people who identify as politically and socially conservative have been more reluctant to be vaccinated — so much so that in Missouri, faith leaders have joined the effort to encourage shots. Meanwhile, the summer outbreak is so alarming that Democratic-led St. Louis city and county and Kansas City have reinstated mask mandates.
 

mooray

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Someone please
“I was strongly against getting the vaccine,” Barker said through labored breathing. “Just because we’re a strong conservative family."

In the U.S., many people who identify as politically and socially conservative have been more reluctant to be vaccinated — so much so that in Missouri, faith leaders have joined the effort to encourage shots. Meanwhile, the summer outbreak is so alarming that Democratic-led St. Louis city and county and Kansas City have reinstated mask mandates.
Hmmmm, this is strange. I mean, sure, it makes perfect sense logically speaking and mirrors everything else I've seen from people, but PJ says it's not really true...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Someone please


Hmmmm, this is strange. I mean, sure, it makes perfect sense logically speaking and mirrors everything else I've seen from people, but PJ says it's not really true...
There are gonna be a lot of Trumpers and antivaxxers going for the ride soon, for some it will be one way, delta is getting them at an alarming rate. Most seniors are vaccinated and the hospital patient profile is younger and unvaxxed this time, so there shouldn't be as much death. However many will have a life changing near death experience that can adjust attitudes. More of these people are gonna come to the conclusion that they are suckers who believe bullshit, as this delta wave continues.
 

mooray

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They say a dumb person doesn't learn from their mistakes, a smart person does, but a wise person learns from other people's mistake. So, if they're not going to be wise, which we know they're not, the next best thing would be to learn a valuable lesson without having to pay too high of a price.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Israel is now recommending a third Pfizer dose for those over 60.
At least we have some tools to fight back now and know how to handle it, if people would wear masks and take reasonable precautions. We have very effective vaccines and antibody therapies with more in the pipeline, there's suppose to be a vaccine pill by the end of the year and that might be useful as a booster. I think delta has the potential to infect all the unvaccinated very quickly, even some of the vaccinated are a bit vulnerable. I think a third dose is a useful stop gap measure, particularly for seniors citizens and the vulnerable, cause it will be months before a delta specific booster shot is approved and deployed.

We are in a different place this time around with delta, most of the democrats have been protected, as have 90% of seniors, it's half the republicans on the chopping block now. The economy is roaring at 6% growth while these idiots are literally dying to own the libs, who at worst get a case of the "Wu Flu".
 
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