will this cfl mogul base digital ballast power 4 pin cfl light

justugh

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God No

stop what u are doing before u hurt yourself ...............your using miss matched items to wire in something and unsure about the current it is putting out or any of the other workings ...........to double check the work

u have 2 choices
1 spend some money and by a premade ready to go lighting system (what most do)
2 spend the next 6 weeks reading and watching videos learning how to do it correctly buy the parts confirm correct and then build

but what u are doing is crazy ............and the ppl that know me call me crazy i am calling u crazy

if u miss wire or anything the light blows u have just lost the whole area (they have mercury in them gas and powder coating) .........if they break the whole area is lost the gas and the dust pieces of glass everything is messed up .............u need to kill the plants dump the soil ........then clean up the whole thing everything needs to be washed down hosed off ..................any glass u are very very careful if it cuts u or gets in the blood the infection is nasty and u are going to lose some part of your body from the decay it causes ...........as for the plants u do not want to smoke anything with that crap on it or near it u might as well drink a bottle of draino
 

Banana444

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Hey I have seen the cfl lights this guys got and if someone can find the ballast that operates them they would be better than the curly ones imo.
 

blackgolem

Well-Known Member
God No

stop what u are doing before u hurt yourself ...............your using miss matched items to wire in something and unsure about the current it is putting out or any of the other workings ...........to double check the work

u have 2 choices
1 spend some money and by a premade ready to go lighting system (what most do)
2 spend the next 6 weeks reading and watching videos learning how to do it correctly buy the parts confirm correct and then build

but what u are doing is crazy ............and the ppl that know me call me crazy i am calling u crazy

if u miss wire or anything the light blows u have just lost the whole area (they have mercury in them gas and powder coating) .........if they break the whole area is lost the gas and the dust pieces of glass everything is messed up .............u need to kill the plants dump the soil ........then clean up the whole thing everything needs to be washed down hosed off ..................any glass u are very very careful if it cuts u or gets in the blood the infection is nasty and u are going to lose some part of your body from the decay it causes ...........as for the plants u do not want to smoke anything with that crap on it or near it u might as well drink a bottle of draino
Just thought because some folks are using the electronic ballasts in spiral cfl lights to power tube lights I could do the same with this. it powered a 65w mogul based bulb and I could not comprehend why it shouldn't a 4 pin cfl. What I have noticed is that the receptacle end for the 4 pins has positive and negative wires attached those coming from any fluorescent ballast. You know current in- step down, rectify... supply. (what am I talking about) If I knew about that I wouldn't be here I'd be an engineer. Anyway what I'm trying to say is this the current draw will be the same and the component I'm trying to use will have the same output why won't it work technically. 2 positive pins and 2 negative pins on a 4 pin bulb of same wattage. Got me confused anyway thanks for your input and advice I will be looking for specified 1 pound regulated 4 pin ballast and forget about using the 3oz electronic one that powers a cfl again thanks this was useful
 

blackgolem

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Hey I have seen the cfl lights this guys got and if someone can find the ballast that operates them they would be better than the curly ones imo.
TY cat that is why I'm trying to make this happen guess I will have to buy the $60 dollar coral reef ballast to power this thing to be safe and not crafty as you can see by name and avatar I only do as instructed (not) thanks again for your response bro. Oh by the way the light fixture pictured in my other post 65w mogul base conversion with the 4 pin light didn't appear to have a ballast is why I'm trying this take a look and tell me if I'm wrong to think it can be done
 

derr

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Bro I studied some phsyics in high school. If all you want to understand is the current then check out this law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff's_circuit_laws

Code:
 Kirchhoffs Current Law
This law is also called Kirchhoff's first law, Kirchhoff's point rule, or Kirchhoff's junction rule (or nodal rule).

The principle of conservation of electric charge implies that:

At any node (junction) in an electrical circuit, the sum of currents flowing into that node is equal to the sum of currents flowing out of that node, or:
The algebraic sum of currents in a network of conductors meeting at a point is zero.
Recalling that current is a signed (positive or negative) quantity reflecting direction towards or away from a node, this principle can be stated as:

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/7/b/17bbbd9b6e69b94dab881bacae540191.png[/IMG]
n is the total number of branches with currents flowing towards or away from the node.

This formula is valid for complex currents:

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/7/7/e775a51871ba846b15a9ec96a4afd7ad.png[/IMG]
The law is based on the conservation of charge whereby the charge (measured in coulombs) is the product of the current (in amperes) and the time (in seconds)
 

blackgolem

Well-Known Member
Bro I studied some phsyics in high school. If all you want to understand is the current then check out this law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff's_circuit_laws

Code:
 Kirchhoffs Current Law
This law is also called Kirchhoff's first law, Kirchhoff's point rule, or Kirchhoff's junction rule (or nodal rule).
 
The principle of conservation of electric charge implies that:
 
At any node (junction) in an electrical circuit, the sum of currents flowing into that node is equal to the sum of currents flowing out of that node, or:
The algebraic sum of currents in a network of conductors meeting at a point is zero.
Recalling that current is a signed (positive or negative) quantity reflecting direction towards or away from a node, this principle can be stated as:
 
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/7/b/17bbbd9b6e69b94dab881bacae540191.png[/IMG]
n is the total number of branches with currents flowing towards or away from the node.
 
This formula is valid for complex currents:
 
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/7/7/e775a51871ba846b15a9ec96a4afd7ad.png[/IMG]
The law is based on the conservation of charge whereby the charge (measured in coulombs) is the product of the current (in amperes) and the time (in seconds)
True that's why I think its possible plus to one side negative to the other what's the big deal if n is 2. Am I right in this assumption? did I misunderstand
 

justugh

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isn't a e27 just those tiny bulbs ........u know 40 watts or less looks like the bulbs they stick in window for x-mas
 

blackgolem

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isn't a e27 just those tiny bulbs ........u know 40 watts or less looks like the bulbs they stick in window for x-mas
No
E26 is the size of most light bulbs in the U.S. It's sometimes called "medium" base.
E12 is the smaller "candelabra" base. It's used for nightlight bulbs, and sometimes for decorative light bulbs used in chandeliers and over bathroom mirrors.
E17, "intermediate" base, is halfway between these two sizes. It's sometimes used for desk lamps and appliance bulbs, but is not very common. You may have to go to a large lighting store to find these.
These numbers refer only to the base size, not to the type of light or wattage, so you'll find E26 bulbs available as traditional incandescent, halogen, or compact fluorescent.
E27 is the size they have in Europe but its the same really as the E26 so the net says
 
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