Why Must People Who Try To Dispute Evolution Use God As An Argument?

Mauihund said:

All data needs interpretation. Interpretation comes when the data needs to be used for something. Otherwise, it's useless data. The reason these people can come up with the same conclusions is because the experiment was probably recreated the way the original experimenter set it up.....to draw the same conclusion. No one wants their life's work to be meaningless. Something personal is always at stake when a man is trying to prove something.

It don't beleive I can afford to be naive in this life. If someone told me "It's independent, corroborative research that points in one direction.", I'd have to wonder. It use to be that "the scientists" beleived the world was flat. Thank God they were wrong. How much else has "the scientific" community been wrong about?

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As I've said before, scientists did not ever think the world was flat. Ignorant, uneducated, dark age people, 99% of which had some form of belief in God, are the ones who believed the world was flat. It's not until the scientists came along and figured out the concept of gravity that we figured out the earth wasn't flat.

It's SCIENCE that proved the earth was a sphere, it's RELIGION that held us back because the Bible is the one that proposes a ''flat earth''.

Oh they figured out the earth wasn't flat loooooong before Newton was even born. Observations were noted that ships coming over the horizon appeared sails first, and then the ship. If the Earth was flat, the approaching ships would have started out as whole in appearance and simply gotten bigger.
This was observed before there were actual scientists, when the closest thing was a philosopher. The Greeks and Romans understood the concept of a round Earth over a thousand years before people were placing bets Columbus was going to sail off the edge.

As for evolution and god, there's no actual reason for anyone who has confidence (not faith) in the theory of evolution to worry about god. The concept of god is irrelevant, and adds nothing to the either the evidence or the consideration of the process. The Theory of Evolution deals with change over time. That's it. It disregards religion in its entirety.

Those who feel threatened by evolution, and demand that proof be required to show that god doesn't exist miss something very important. The burden of proof lies with them to prove the existence of their claimed deity. If someone claims that the sun rises each morning because leprechauns fart burning raisins into the sky, if you don't have them committed first, you'll want to see their proof of this. It's no different with any claimed supernatural phenomenon.

Here's a wikipedia article on the "flat earth" concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth
(Not as widely believed as most people think)

As long as people have used boats on the water it has been known the earth was round. When standing on a beach waiting for the boats to come staring out to the horizon its the mast or sails would have been seen first making the boat appear to rise out of the water hence proving the world was round.And how long have people been using boats
Evolution takes time alot of time for small changes and one thing the earth has had is alot of time unless you believe the bible.If it took God seven days to create the world what did he do before he did this,and we are suppose to believe our whole human race come from one man and one woman now that is some fucked up incest shit right there.Evolution just makes sense to me nature finds a way to cope with changes to the world over time, somethings die others take there place in both animals and plants,certain traits favour certain life survival of the fittest it can be seen everywhere.99% of all life that has lived on this earth is extinct and if earths time was a clock ,humans (homo sapiens) first arrive i think 23:55.
And the next time you see a bird maybe an ostrich and remember the raptor that film its plan as day that birds evolved from dinosaurs.Also did you ever see blind insects or fish that live in caves that could only form over thousands of years and yet it has blind insects fish lizards which could have only evolved in the caves. I'm high so i will stop now i could type for hours proving evolution and for days disproving god but i won't as everyone has the choice to believe what they want but they should be given the choice and the knowledge to choose for themselves but when you are brought up by your parents beliefs its very hard for some to change their mind when they get older.Use the internet investigate the religions see where they all come from and why they are so many and how similar they all are. i'll stop

As long as people have used boats it has been known the earth was round.When standing on the beach waiting for the boats to come home looking out to the horizon its the mast or sails that could be seen first making the boat appear to rise out of the water hence the earth was round
evolution just makes sense explain why else a whale would have hind leg bones unless at one stage whale moved from land to water. Also in some caves blind insects,fish and lizards live yet the caves weren't always there they were formed and the insects fish or lizards could only have evolved in the caves no other explanation

Yup, you're high

cbtwohundread said:

I dont believe in the evolution of man from monkeys.,.,doesnt make sense to i.,.,its not like we are watching monkeys get more and more like us or sumthing.

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Im sorry but you obviously dont understand Evolution. Firstly we did not evolve from monkeys but apes, two different species. The reason apes are not looking more and more like us as time goes by is because the ones around now are not the ones we evolved from, rather us and them both evolved from the same "ancestor" way back when.
Other than that you seem to have a healthy look on life and seem open to reason so +rep

morgentaler said:

Yup, you're high

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Agreed, hes flying waaaayy high

krustofskie said:

Im sorry but you obviously dont understand Evolution. Firstly we did not evolve from monkeys but apes, two different species. The reason apes are not looking more and more like us as time goes by is because the ones around now are not the ones we evolved from, rather us and them both evolved from the same "ancestor" way back when.
Other than that you seem to have a healthy look on life and seem open to reason so +rep

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thank u.,.,most people just call me crazy.,.,but i am.,.,.being sane is being.,.,"norm".,.,or "in-a-box".,.,anything my mind can think of can happen.,.,anything that can happen my mind can think of.,.,but go to hell if wat ure thinking is not rite.,.,no fuss no fight.,.,oh and no i dont overstand evolution in a whole.,.but maybe ini can read up a lil more,read down a lil less

cbtwohundread said:

thank u.,.,most people just call me crazy.,.,but i am.,.,.being sane is being.,.,"norm".,.,or "in-a-box".,.,anything my mind can think of can happen.,.,anything that can happen my mind can think of.,.,but go to hell if wat ure thinking is not rite.,.,no fuss no fight.,.,oh and no i dont overstand evolution in a whole.,.but maybe ini can read up a lil more,read down a lil less

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I'm just curious, every post you make reads just like this one. You can't possibly speak like that in real life, right? So why do you type like that?

PadawanBater said:

I'm just curious, every post you make reads just like this one. You can't possibly speak like that in real life, right? So why do you type like that?

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I'm just curious, are you a dick, or just uneducated in other cultures?

ya ebullys are here.

jesus of Cannabis said:

ya ebullys are here.

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I'm not an ebully. I just get mad sometimes. But, I try to be respectful, even with a rebuke.

Mauihund said:

I'm just curious, are you a dick, or just uneducated in other cultures?

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Apparently I'm uneducated in other cultures. Am I supposed to know the subtle differences in words and sentence structure of every culture or what?

灰。あなたわにほんごがわかりますか？

krustofskie said:

But evolution contradicts what most religions teach us, Adam and Eve????? Its the basses of the religions to control us with lies, thats why I say evolution makes the religions look stupid.

And your right, those evolutionists who wont accept a chance of god are just as close minded as the religions not accepting the chance of evolution.

I personally don't believe there is a God, but I am open to the concept and accept there could be and this would still fit in with evolution, but evolution can not fit in with the sriptures the religions base their faith on.

Until we do have all the answers we can only hedge our bets with the whats most likely and the information we have to date.

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You're ideas about what others belief, are way off base. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with religion.

It's pretty obvious you've never studied religion, or spelling, but the state teaches you to embrace evolution... and you do.

Maybe study on your own, and try to learn more that you were taught in the public school system, before making a fool out of yourself?

jesus of Cannabis said:

ya ebullys are here.

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The blogger are sitting in their underwear, in their parents basements, again? lol

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091001-oldest-human-skeleton-ardi-missing-link-chimps-ardipithecus-ramidus.html

This just in!!! ARDI. One million years older than Lucy.

NewDad09 said:

All DNA is at least 99% the same, if evolution really took place then there is no way humans are the only thing as unique as we are. Screw the monkey comparisons, basic anatomy and physiology explain why their behvior is so similar. Structure dictates function, so if a monkey has similar limbs and features as a human, then those limbs will have similar uses for a monkey as well.

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Actually you just proved yourself wrong all DNA is 99% the same thats why when they injected a fruit fly with eye cells from a mouse it grew eyes everywhere all over it's body. That DNA was read by the fly and made fly eyes not mammal eyes. That is strong evidence to support an original single ancestor just as darwin had predicted :Gasp:

Agreed. I do not believe in God.... and I do not believe in any one specific religion. I believe there are many Gods.. and I also believe in the theory of evolution.
I think everyone needs to just believe what they want, and not butt into everyone else's beliefs. After all, we were born with free will for a reason... we all have the choice what we want to believe or not believe.
I don't claim any one specific religion because I don't think any one religion makes perfect sense. Religion, like evolution, is just a theory. Not everyone is gonna agree with every little detail of it.
And that should be okay with everyone, but not everyone sees it that way.

krustofskie said:

Evolution and how life was formed on this earth does not bring into question wether or not there is a God.
Once you take the narrow views of your religion out of the equation God can still fit in nicely with evolution

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The word theory...
It does not mean what you think it means.

In science a theory is arrived at by observation of evidence, testing, and experimentation.

To the religious, a theory is a guess.

But to the religious a cracker can be the flesh of a resurrected dead guy.

My bet's on science.