Why Is The Jewish Community So Hated Throughout History?

im not at all a racist nor do i believe in god, but i was thinking about the history of the human race and religion and reolized that the most hated religion throughout history was the jewish community and i was wondering why and what you guys thought
 

Encomium

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I don't think it was the Jewish religion so much as the Jews themselves. I think it's because in many cases the Jews in various lands during their diaspora set themselves up as different or distanced themselves culturally to those places they lived. Couple that notion with the knowledge that according to their belief they are the chosen people and I you have a recipe for group wide animosity.
 

Carne Seca

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I don't think it was the Jewish religion so much as the Jews themselves. I think it's because in many cases the Jews in various lands during their diaspora set themselves up as different or distanced themselves culturally to those places they lived. Couple that notion with the knowledge that according to their belief they are the chosen people and I you have a recipe for group wide animosity.
Seriously? Do you know WHY the Diaspora happened? It had nothing to do with "how they acted." The Judeo culture was the first to have a monotheistic religion. This set them quite apart and engendered hatred from polytheistic cultures. Invasion after invasion was either fought off or they succumbed to the invasion and they refused to follow the polytheistic religions of the winning invaders. All religions believe they are the true religion and they are the "chosen people." This wasn't a Jewish only club. It was a clash of religions/cultures/and a major trade route meandered through the land of Israel which caused all the grief and strife.

There were two actual Diasporas. One happened about 600 BC when the first temple was destroyed and the Jews were taken as slaves. The second one happened after the time of Christ by the Romans and that was the final scattering of Israel. The reason "Jews" were hated was due to Christian bias carried over from former polytheistic cultures. Then the idea that "the Jews killed Christ" took hold and the terrible history of pogroms and exiling of Jews began. Not to mention blood libel and other false claims that painted the Jews as demonic and evil.
 

mindphuk

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I don't think it was the Jewish religion so much as the Jews themselves. I think it's because in many cases the Jews in various lands during their diaspora set themselves up as different or distanced themselves culturally to those places they lived. Couple that notion with the knowledge that according to their belief they are the chosen people and I you have a recipe for group wide animosity.
Is there any religious group that doesn't believe they are 'chosen' or specially favored by god? The Jews are no different than any other cult, err, religion.
 

Encomium

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Seriously? Do you know WHY the Diaspora happened? It had nothing to do with "how they acted." The Judeo culture was the first to have a monotheistic religion. This set them quite apart and engendered hatred from polytheistic cultures. Invasion after invasion was either fought off or they succumbed to the invasion and they refused to follow the polytheistic religions of the winning invaders. All religions believe they are the true religion and they are the "chosen people." This wasn't a Jewish only club. It was a clash of religions/cultures/and a major trade route meandered through the land of Israel which caused all the grief and strife.

There were two actual Diasporas. One happened about 600 BC when the first temple was destroyed and the Jews were taken as slaves. The second one happened after the time of Christ by the Romans and that was the final scattering of Israel. The reason "Jews" were hated was due to Christian bias carried over from former polytheistic cultures. Then the idea that "the Jews killed Christ" took hold and the terrible history of pogroms and exiling of Jews began. Not to mention blood libel and other false claims that painted the Jews as demonic and evil.
Well I only mentioned the Diaspora to relate to the idea that the Jews, as a people, were exiled from their lands and settled in foreign lands.

I'm arguing that them setting themselves apart *is* the reason why they were disliked. I would disagree that their monotheism would have caused the schism in and of itself because if polytheism was the norm then a people's god(s) would have little effect on attitudes since any other people's would have a different religion as well. In other words, "My Gods are better than your God" mentality would have prevailed. What would not have gone over so well is that the Jewish people tended to keep to themselves and maintain their customs. Any minority group living within, yet culturally apart, the confines of a majority "owned" state experiences similar attitudes of hostility (ie. Kurds, Gypsies, Muslims in India, etc.).

While I conceded that the Christian bias against Jews may have been a remnant of previous eras, I do not think this hatred is a relic of polytheistic days but rather due to the continuation of the Jewish tendency to remain culturally distant. It's interesting you bring up the more recent pogroms and exiling as I see this more of a consequence to Nationalism than the idea that the Jews killed Christ. Pogrom's weren't only for the Jews after all, German Russians where also persecuted around the same time. Pogroms were used against any minority group that the government distrusted. Jews would have been distrusted because although they lived in Russia they continued to maintain their Jewish customs thus setting themselves apart culturally. Nationalism brought about the notion of cultural unity of a collection of peoples throughout a region (nation). Jews and any other culturally different groups have a tendency to be treated poorly by nationalism in any form (well besides Zionism of course).
 

mazand1982

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this doesnt really need a thread to answer the question, theyre just jews, no one likes jews, they have definitely distanced themselves from other races/cultures, their separatism beliefs are what brought them to this place in history/present...they think they are superior but all they are is a group of cheap, rude jews...
 

Carne Seca

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Well I only mentioned the Diaspora to relate to the idea that the Jews, as a people, were exiled from their lands and settled in foreign lands.

I'm arguing that them setting themselves apart *is* the reason why they were disliked. I would disagree that their monotheism would have caused the schism in and of itself because if polytheism was the norm then a people's god(s) would have little effect on attitudes since any other people's would have a different religion as well. In other words, "My Gods are better than your God" mentality would have prevailed. What would not have gone over so well is that the Jewish people tended to keep to themselves and maintain their customs. Any minority group living within, yet culturally apart, the confines of a majority "owned" state experiences similar attitudes of hostility (ie. Kurds, Gypsies, Muslims in India, etc.).

While I conceded that the Christian bias against Jews may have been a remnant of previous eras, I do not think this hatred is a relic of polytheistic days but rather due to the continuation of the Jewish tendency to remain culturally distant. It's interesting you bring up the more recent pogroms and exiling as I see this more of a consequence to Nationalism than the idea that the Jews killed Christ. Pogrom's weren't only for the Jews after all, German Russians where also persecuted around the same time. Pogroms were used against any minority group that the government distrusted. Jews would have been distrusted because although they lived in Russia they continued to maintain their Jewish customs thus setting themselves apart culturally. Nationalism brought about the notion of cultural unity of a collection of peoples throughout a region (nation). Jews and any other culturally different groups have a tendency to be treated poorly by nationalism in any form (well besides Zionism of course).
Read some history books. I took several courses on Anthropology of Religion which covers this very topic in detail. The trials and tribulations of Judah/Israel (archaeologically and anthropologically speaking) can be traced back to 900 BCE and yes polytheistic distrust of monotheism played a large role in the clashes.
 

Encomium

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Is there any religious group that doesn't believe they are 'chosen' or specially favored by god? The Jews are no different than any other cult, err, religion.
I mentioned the Jewish belief that they are chosen race as something that pretty much wouldn't have helped the attitudes towards them. I agree that other religions think the same way however I think any minority group living in the confines of a majority owned state or region will experience similar hostile attitudes. Other religions or cultures that assimilate decrease this amount of hostility over generations. The Jews, although probably assimilating to a small degree, still maintained their cultural distance.
 

Carne Seca

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this doesnt really need a thread to answer the question, theyre just jews, no one likes jews, they have definitely distanced themselves from other races/cultures, their separatism beliefs are what brought them to this place in history/present...they think they are superior but all they are is a group of cheap, rude jews...
The OP asked to keep the hate rhetoric out of this thread. So, keep that biased shit to yourself.
 

Carne Seca

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I mentioned the Jewish belief that they are chosen race as something that pretty much wouldn't have helped the attitudes towards them. I agree that other religions think the same way however I think any minority group living in the confines of a majority owned state or region will experience similar hostile attitudes. Other religions or cultures that assimilate decrease this amount of hostility over generations. The Jews, although probably assimilating to a small degree, still maintained their cultural distance.
You seem to have misunderstood the OP's question. He stated throughout history. You seem to be focusing on the history after the last Diaspora. The hate goes back thousands of years and began with polytheistic vs. monotheistic beliefs.
 

tinyTURTLE

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you can blame the dislike of the jews on catholic monetary practices.
waaaay back in the day the church prohibited the lending of money by it's members.
the jews, being non-catholic, were happy to fill this niche.
the rest is history (if you fail to extrapolate the events and attitudes that
comprise the last 300 years use wikipedia).
 

Encomium

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Read some history books. I took several courses on Anthropology of Religion which covers this very topic in detail. The trials and tribulations of Judah/Israel (archaeologically and anthropologically speaking) can be traced back to 900 BCE and yes polytheistic distrust of monotheism played a large role in the clashes.
So you really think that the pogroms and exiling in the last 100 years or so are a relic of old polytheistic/monotheistic differences?

The courses on Anthropology of Religion covered why Jews are disliked throughout history or the conflict between polytheism and monotheism?

Is your telling me to, "Read some history books." a smarmy way to tell me off or am I not writing my posts comprehensibly? I've read several history books mind you, I thought I had a fairly convincing argument but you're right, it could very well be echoes of polytheism versus monotheism reflected on all the countries or lands the Jews were persecuted.
 

Carne Seca

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So you really think that the pogroms and exiling in the last 100 years or so are a relic of old polytheistic/monotheistic differences?
Biases carry over. The origin of the hate may be distorted with time but historical and biblical writings point to the clash of beliefs.

The courses on Anthropology of Religion covered why Jews are disliked throughout history or the conflict between polytheism and monotheism?
The courses covered all major religions of the world. Including Israel/Judah and their history. I even got to study Mormon history from an outsider's perspective. It was quite unique.
 

Kartel Kriminal

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The jewish people were hated because older societies veiwed their religion as a cult. Judaism was uniting too many people and became a force to be reckon with. I've noticed this occurrance in ancient mesopatamian, persion and germanic cultures. They also served the purpse of being a good scapegoat for kings/sultans' shortcomings, be it a territorial shortcoming or financial shortcoming.
 

Encomium

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You seem to have misunderstood the OP's question. He stated throughout history. You seem to be focusing on the history after the last Diaspora. The hate goes back thousands of years and began with polytheistic vs. monotheistic beliefs.
So if I summed up your argument in a sentence it would read something like: The Jewish people have been hated as a religion and community throughout history because the Jews were the first Monotheistic religion and conflicted with polytheistic cultures at the time. Does that sound right?

I'm stating that the Jews have been hated so much throughout history due to the fact that they never assimilated into the countries of their exile thus maintaining cultural distance fostering alienation and distrust.
 

Carne Seca

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So if I summed up your argument in a sentence it would read something like: The Jewish people have been hated as a religion and community throughout history because the Jews were the first Monotheistic religion and conflicted with polytheistic cultures at the time. Does that sound right?

I'm stating that the Jews have been hated so much throughout history due to the fact that they never assimilated into the countries of their exile thus maintaining cultural distance fostering alienation and distrust.
They weren't exiled until after the death of Christ. How can you call that "throughout history?" The hate started well before that when Judah was a nation along with Israel. Why? Religious beliefs.
 

UncleBuck

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this doesnt really need a thread to answer the question, theyre just jews, no one likes jews, they have definitely distanced themselves from other races/cultures, their separatism beliefs are what brought them to this place in history/present...they think they are superior but all they are is a group of cheap, rude jews...
haha, says the fucking thief.

in addition to being a fucking thief, you are also a bigot and pretty ignorant based on the thoughts you chose to make public.

what is it they say about better to shut your mouth and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?

you really should keep that in mind.

or better yet, enclose yourself in a burlap sack and have someone throw you off of the nearest tall building or tower.

... someone pulled a gun on me like 8 years ago cause me and my partner ripped him off for like 700 bucks, i remember the day....
 

UncleBuck

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i am not anti semetic at all but jewish food sucks balls
like what?

matza ball soup rocks. hamantaschen is fucking awesome. pastrami sandwiches? don't mind if i do. love me some challah.

and i pity the man that dislikes bagels or latkes.

not saying you are anti semitic, just pointing out all our foods that i love.

i do not like charrosset, and do not blame anyone that does not like gefelte fish (although i am fine with them).
 
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