Why Is It...

Kartel Kriminal

Active Member
Adaptation is evolving my friend...Its forever happening everywhere with everything
Adapting is not evolving. You can use the word adapt to supplement the theory of evolution, but adaptation is still NOT evolving. Adaptation is happening everywhere with everything but not necessarily evolution. Sounds like an equivocation fallacy to me.
 
you can argue it all day long and literally use what ever word you choose to describe whats really happening...perhaps i should have said everything is constantly changing but then isnt change adapting and if adapting suplements the theory of evolution which again evolution is change there all the same right? words are tricky but the meaning is the same
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
If the theory of evolution is so definitive then why is so much of it speculated? I don't have to thoroughly understand any man-made concept if I know what its major flaws are.
Give examples of speculation? Do you understand what inductive reasoning is? We can find commonalities and differences among all of the species on this planet. Some clearly are more related to each other. These differences and similarities show up not only in anatomy and morphology, but physiology, embryology and genetics. Each time we look at relationships among various species, all of our methods confirm one another. Not only did the creationist Linnaeus classify humans as apes that are closely related to chimpanzees and other African apes, but he did so decades BEFORE Darwin. Darwin merely proposed a mechanism for how that relationship came about. Modern genetics also shows that we are closely related to chimps and other apes. The fact that we have multiple lines of evidence all pointing to the same conclusion gives us great confidence that we are correct. This is why we call the tree of life a double nested hierarchy. It is confirmed both from the top down and the bottom up with absolutely no exceptions. The evidence that evolution occurred is undeniable when you examine the evidence. The theory of evolution is not a way to demonstrate that evolution actually happens but is merely the proposed mechanism for how it happens. The fact of evolution is evident even if we remove every piece of fossil evidence.
 

crackerboy

Active Member
Do you know anyone who knows the in's and out's of the theory of evolution, took more than a high school course on it, etc. that still doesn't accept it as fact?

Do these people exist? I'd put money down that they don't and that all the millions of people out there who don't accept it at this point simply don't understand it, and if they did - they would.

hmm...
Dr. Arial Roth. His credentials are a mile long. There are hundreds of scientists that signed the Decent from Darwinism. Most where professors from major universities. Many of those where Biologists. Even evolutionists argue about how the first organism evolved. Actually it has been proven impossible to duplicate. And yes Abiogenesis is a part of evolution no matter what anyone tries to say. It is the process that had to have happened for evolution to take place. So evolution is full of only half truths.
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
Dr. Arial Roth. His credentials are a mile long. There are hundreds of scientists that signed the Decent from Darwinism. Most where professors from major universities. Many of those where Biologists. Even evolutionists argue about how the first organism evolved. Actually it has been proven impossible to duplicate. And yes Abiogenesis is a part of evolution no matter what anyone tries to say. It is the process that had to have happened for evolution to take place. So evolution is full of only half truths.
And any theory of gravity needs massive bodies to have formed for gravity to work on, chemicals and atoms are needed for chemistry and atomic theory to work, bacteria and viruses necessarily must exist for germ theory of illness to make sense, yet none of those theories are criticized by religionists for their failure to explain their origins. It appears you save this special criticism only for evolution.

BTW, learn the difference between 'where' and 'were'. Your ignorance about biological evolution is compounded when it appears you have been unable to get past second grade level English.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
Genetic variation caused by procreation is what caused these mutations. And Evolution is the idea that animals with certain genetic variations would survive to pass on their genetic traits to sucessive enerations. The animals with mutations that hasten survival like retardation would die off.

How do you not understand that?

You know when to people fuck they have a baby. The baby is a combination of the two peoples DNA which results in a new being with the genetic variations of both parents. These genetics variations are all characteristics of individuals. Which can be good and bad. Such as high intelligence or alcoholism. Ones lives and one dies, ones passes on Genetics and one does not. Laymens terms.

Our society skews the entire theory with our advancement in technologies. Now the idiots bang like crazy because they live longer and the world is full of idiots who don't understand a basic concept like evolution.
 

secretweapon

Active Member
Religion will be the downfall of man, Richard dawkings the god delusion is a good read. OP some people just don't want to see the truth.
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
I have no doubt of evolution. It's certainly the origin of species, but it's not a complete explanation of the origin of life on earth(and it doesn't claim to be). There can be no natural selection before life exists. I also hold a bit of doubt over evolution being the *only* factor in the origin of intelligent human life on this planet.

I think a big part of the problem, however, is due to the people who don't understand it fully as you state, and those same people propagating the idea that evolution and creation are mutually exclusive. The idea that the diverse species we have simply popped into existence is outdated and even several Christian authorities have embraced evolution as being the most probable explanation.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Literally anything could replace religion in your statement.
"organized religion provides the medium for otherwise good people to do terrible things"

I disagree.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."

-Steven Weinberg, Nobel Laureate in physics

That's the original quote.

There's not very many things that will make a good man do something that will harm another person, but organized religion is one of them.
 
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