Why is Communism bad?

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
communism is the answer to global happiness but we have to have the RIGHT people on top.

every communist nation has had the man on top being a greedy piece of shit that only tried to build up military and didn't really give a shit for the people.

could you imagine if we only took what we needed from this place called earth. it would be pretty beautiful
Can you imagine if everybody practiced a live and let live philosophy? Under your version of Communism would I be forced to participate? If so I would not be happy...I'd even go so far as saying those who would force others to participate aren't the RIGHT people, agreed? Or do you think the RIGHT people know better how to run my life than me?

The RIGHT people on top? The right person to live your life is YOU. The right person to live my life is ME.

If YOU want VOLUNTARYISM and to practice communal living and sharing, good for you. If you want to force Communism on everybody what makes you any different than any other WRONG person that's ever been on top?
 

Anjinsan

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As long as I am on top...communism is great. But if you are on top...old fashioned revolution will be the order shortly.

If I have no chance of being on top...you have no chance of getting me to work hard.
 

weedguru

Active Member
communism makes humans ANTs and BEES...we are mammals, not insects. Which isn't to imply that I think insects lack soul, or feelings or thoughts...but the way the Natural World looks, they are more easily and happily, grouped in communist shapes, than mammals.
 

LiEBE420

Well-Known Member
Can you imagine if everybody practiced a live and let live philosophy? Under your version of Communism would I be forced to participate? If so I would not be happy...I'd even go so far as saying those who would force others to participate aren't the RIGHT people, agreed? Or do you think the RIGHT people know better how to run my life than me?

The RIGHT people on top? The right person to live your life is YOU. The right person to live my life is ME.

If YOU want VOLUNTARYISM and to practice communal living and sharing, good for you. If you want to force Communism on everybody what makes you any different than any other WRONG person that's ever been on top?
suck a dick trick
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Nice.
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Come see the violence inherant in the system!
Stop pointing guns at people and we will talk.

You will never be able to do it without pointing guns.
At least not while humans remain human.
 

medicineman

New Member
Nice.
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Come see the violence inherant in the system!
Stop pointing guns at people and we will talk.

You will never be able to do it without pointing guns.
At least not while humans remain human.
And there my friend is the problem. The selfish interest inherited from the animalistic side of humanity, the survival mode, rationalized to the point of stifling all caring, all sharing, and any remote chance of actually working cooperatively in a human interaction scenario, without being compensated individually. ("While the miser is merely a capitalist gone mad, the capitalist is a rational miser".) Karl Marx. Marx himself admitted that it would be at least 200 years before humanity was ready for a true socialist state.

 

Anjinsan

Well-Known Member
People seriously need to read up on Chinese history of the past 100 years or so. Communism is truly horrible. The end.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
suck a dick trick
So when you run out of logic and can't refute that Communism relies on violence to make people participate you resort to suck a dick stuff? Classy response.

What do you have against people choosing to live their own life if they harm nobody else?
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
"What do you have against people choosing to live their own life if they harm nobody else?"
We are greedy, we are holding back human evolution, we are throw-backs to cave man days.
That I think, is what they think of us, IMO.

Thats why you have some people casually/unthinkingly saying things like
we should be removed from the gene pool, Or other smart ass remark.
Because deep down they believe Libertarians, Classical liberals, palio-conservatives
are somehow less evolved then they are.
See Jeanene Garafalo's resent remarks about the people who attended the "Tea Parties"
Our limbic brain is undeveloped or some such nonsence.
Makes it easier for them to see us as the "bad guy."
Classical demonization tactic.
Same thing they said about Black fighter pilots in WWII.
Blood vessels in their brain couldn't handle High G's.
Whatever they need to say to demonize us.

They can't help it, its what they have been trained to do for several decades.
Just like Rascists during WWII, they honestly believed they were doing the right thing.
It wasn't because they "hated" blacks it was because they looked down on blacks.
Just like they where trained to do for hundreds of years.

See "we" are just the un-evolved who will have to be
dragged kicking and screaming into their new utopia.
To be made to work for the greater good until they can
train our kids to think the same way they do.
And when all of "us" pass away they will have their utopia.
As the thinking goes.

You know If you guys don't like "rich people" I know just the ones you should target.
They are called bankers.
They have convinced the people in government that what they do is legit.
when in reality it is straight up fraud.
Those are the rich you should hate the ones who break the system to profit
Off counterfitting money (that is what they do IMO) Hate them.
Not the guy who invented post-it notes and made a few million, WTF.

Just my oppinion as I am clearly not an expert on progressive group-think.
 

Loftiest

Member
Because the tennants of communism are counter to human nature. We are not ants, or borg. Without competition we do not succeed. Without motivation beyond altruism we do not innovate.

Why has every major technological leap forward in every field practically all been a result of US efforts? Because we are smarter? Not according to test scores or education.

A communist authority in every single example has fallen into brutal authoritarianism because of the nature of man. This not simply a series of circumstantial conditions. It is human nature as demonstrated since recorded history. Insanity is trying the same thing over and over expecting different results.

Remove in man narcisism, competitiveness, and the desire to provide more for our children than we had, and then you can give communism a try. Until such time, the answer to your question is history.

Much more to add... But on my blackberry. You know, one of those obsene benifits of a free market society.
All this talk about the nature of man, I thought you may be interested in these: http://forum.johnson.cornell.edu/faculty/russo/Monetary%20Incentives%20and%20Mood.pdf

http://webs.wofford.edu/pechwj/Motivation Crowding Theory.pdf

Results such as these often are duplicated time and time again. We're such a complicated species; there's no need to boil down our behaviors into elementary truisms.
 

trailerparkboy

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are easy to get into(Canada). Some are hard(generally European). All of them have REALLY HIGH TAX RATES FOR EVERYONE. By high I mean 50%+ for everyone.


i keep hearing an seeing things like this canadian taxes arnt that bad i do very well and still get a tax refund every year
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
If you think taxes aren't that bad, you are either not making enough to be taxed or incapable of reading your paystub.

Though simply advocating that the state should take care of everyone makes one sound like a 5 year old who's arguing that their parents should take care of them instead of a mature independent adult.

Communism is the ideology of those that still wish other people would change them...
 

trailerparkboy

Well-Known Member
i meant that the taxes arnt 50% (in canada) as was said and with a six figure income id aassume im in a higher bracket...btw i agree with u the state shouldnt be taking care of everyone ppl need to take responsibity for there own lives
 
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