Why God?... Why?

When one bo0k is closed another opened.,.,.,when i pass,a baby will be born.,.,i couldnt ask for anything else,.,.we are a man/woman once and a baby twice.,.,u will LEAVE this world the same way u came in hopefully.,.,pure and rightous,.,with no evil on ure mind,nor in ure works.,.,life is a long,bumpy foggy road.,.,but i love it so.,.,i have more energy inside i than the sun.,.,.so how could i die?the devils dead.,.,we live forever,.,im sr y for ure loss but.,.,if everytime something like this happens are u gona curse the lord?,

Mcgician said:

And would render the need for faith utterly pointless. You don't seem to understand it's importance in the equation here. Also, if proving God's existence were merely as simple as a math equation, faith would have nothing to do with it either. IMO, the evidence is there. You just need to know how to look for it.

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But what about all the stuff your god used to do. He has provided "proof" to individual people (burning bushes, angel visitations, commandments etc), thus rendering the faith of those individuals pointless, by your own admission. Why does your god now value free will and faith so much, when he never used to?

it hard when someone close leaves before there time

lets let this thread die...we all have our own own opinion about religion.
it's something that can't be talked about among 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 web users.
nor politics. we all know that.

lifes a bitch then you die so fuck the world and lets get high

Yes, in the end, it is the solitary fear of death which drives all religious thinking..... fear.

Boogie Boogie Boogie ! ! ! ! ! !

Why should an atheist fear death?
I was dead 14.5 billion years before I was born, and it wasn't bad at all.

Unless it was so horrible that I blocked it all out...

Save me, Jesus!

I'm sorry to hear that.

I'll face my fear of death with an eye on reality, not wishful thinking.

morgentaler said:

Until someone actually presents some evidence though, there is no proof for his existence. It's really that simple.

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You'd better hope so. I choose not to take that gamble. I don't know how else to tell you; I look at the summation of the incredibly scance chance for life, the fact that it produced intelligent life, the beauty of it, as well as the overall balance of nature, and can see miracles everywhere. IMO, what you call science, the laws of nature, etc, I call God. By you substituting science with God, you've already messed up the equation. If you still want proof, (under "man's" terms), I believe you are barking up the wrong tree. IMO, God has nothing to prove to YOU. Follow with faith, or follow not. It's really that simple.

morgentaler said:

Let's see documentation and proof of a bona fide miracle.

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What god is there to question?

What has happened is awful and should not have to be endured by anyone, the human body is so fragile, god does not decide who lives and dies [if you kill someone you have decided if they live or die does that make you god?.] If the car broke down/caught at the lights/pulled over this tradgedy would have been avoided, I hope she enjoyed the time she was given, thats all you can ask.

Very sorry.

Hauvert said:

lets let this thread die...we all have our own own opinion about religion.
it's something that can't be talked about among 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 web users.
nor politics. we all know that.

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I am not here to argue faith, religion and politics there are few referances left to be attributed to this innocent girl and although I did not know her I wish to voice my opinion out of respect for her and the life she was given.

Mcgician said:

By you substituting science with God, you've already messed up the equation.

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One doesn't substitute the other.

Science is a rational and methodological approach to understanding the mechanisms through which things occur.

God is a religious construct which is part of faith, the belief in something without substantiating evidence.

They're not even close.

IMO, God has nothing to prove to YOU.

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Your religious texts state that God demands worship. He does not *ask*. He extorts with the threat of torture.

So if your biblical God wants to be worshipped, he certainly does need to prove his worth.

But first, prove the existence. Because until then the point is moot.

1 of my close friends got stabbed 15 yrs old 2 years ago,things happen man even though this is the dirty south of england where its grimey things like this shouldnt happen people should die its bad man,god is there just hes being a twat face atm

soz for ur loss

I'm horribly sorry for your loss and your friends loss man, without getting into detail I appreciate and sympathize with you on a large level.

I don't believe there is a god, and if there was one I wouldn't want to be part of anything he represents or part of his 'greater purpose' that his followers light heartedly tend to speak of during these circumstances. This excuse is for cowards and the simple minded. It's an unfortunate thing to happen, but these things happen and they cannot be controlled. You, like everyone and everything else within nature cannot view it from the outside, for you are within nature, the natural.

I won't get into a religious tiff, I just wanted to stress that point so you didn't pain over it, and hopefully you would be able to come to terms with a clearer mind and heart. All we can do is live life to it's fullest, love all we can, learn all there is to be learnt, and remember all we can claw at before our own ends.

If there was such a thing as an afterlife, I don't believe it would be due to some spiritual hanger our bodies hang off of that dances off into a meadow once our bodies leave it but rather through the memories of those around us that are carried on afterwards.

Memories keep the dead alive, thats the important thing. So just keep on loving, and remembering and all you can do then is move on and be the best you can be through the eyes of those you keep alive through memory/memories you cherish.

Think of it this way.... Shes probably in a much more peaceful place watching over us all and smiling as we say its all part of a bigger plan. God bless

that vidoe that someone posted here is great to watch when ur stoned

CrackerJax said:

A miracle is being out of rolling papers and then finding a pack in a drawer after a 20 minute search. You open it in anticipation, but the pack is empty. After a small hissy fit that follows the letdown, you go to throw that blasphemous pack away, and then you notice one last paper tucked behind the cardboard.

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HALLELUJAH!!!
...always keep the faith.

josh b said:

that vidoe that someone posted here is great to watch when ur stoned

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You're welcome...

It's also very good sober too. Justine Suissa is the voice, and Oceanlab is the label. Definitely check out more of their work, you won't be disappointed.