Why Does Man "Need" Religion
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you have a good point.But skiskate.... Why oxygen?
why grow lungs not knowing if there was oxygen 
which came first oxygen or lungs
glad we have lungs or else we couldnt smoke weed
Gymshoes
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It's not man who needs dogma, it's religion that needs it.
Well, if you REALLY believed heaven and hell, chances are somewhat better that you will behave in the manner prescibed by the Church viz, good moral behavior.
Waitaminute: are you saying that life can not be lived to the fullest without fear of eternal punishment? I think several million people would STRONGLY disagree w/you.
You don't? You really don't? Man, it's so simple. From the very beginning of our existence we have NEEDED to believe in higher powers.
We were for the longest period of our time on earth among the weakest of creatures. How did we explain lightning and tornados? How did we protect ourselves from nature's onslaughts?
We were POWERLESS and SMALL. And in the wink of an eye, historically speaking, higher powers came into being. We invented them. We needed them the exact same way a child needs his mother and father...
People just need religion, and believing in a life after death is awfully appealing, yes?
That proves nothing about anything. Except that maybe, just maybe a higher power brought you back. Anyway, i don't think those visions appear until after about 3 minutes, or however long it takes before the brain becomes starved for oxygen and starts hallucinating.
Gymshoes
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WRONG!!!
For one thing, anerobic bacteria live without oxygen. Anerobic bacteria found in poorly processed canned goods kills hundreds of people every year.
And for another thing, how can we say life can not happen without oxygen? Do we know everything now? What about life on other planets? You think all life in the entire universe HAS TO BE based on oxygen?
cbtwohundread
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i love jah and forward inna positive direction.,.,love the devil and backward for u.,.,devils dead i live.,.,devils a shadow and im the light.,.,evil runs from the truth like shadow from lite.,.,baldhead against dreads like butter against sun
cbtwohundread
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i lived on the sea bed for 77hundread and 7 years.,.there was no oxygen there.,.,i lived on the sun for 6hundread and 66 years where i trapped the devil.,and there was no oxygen there,.,.,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFwNncX51GI
skiskate
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Plug your mouth and nose and tell me what happens...
Was i talking about bacteria? No.
This is about humans and god.And no I dont know everything, I have no idea if there is some planet out there where bacteria breathes Sarin. Do I care? No not really. But if you want a human to survive on earth lungs and oxygen are needed....
religion or at least spirituality is extremely important so one can be in tune with oneself and remain centered at all times. many religions can instill moral conflicts inside people, its always best to go with what you feel is the true answer.
i.e. christians may denounce weed which may turn some away from christianity or some away from weed. other christians blaze up and probably experience some ideological conflict in between the garage and the church. others may see no conflicts. most of the stoners I know aren't die-hard religious.
the die-hard spirituals often times will also choose paths of abstinence in the majority of situations.
personally, I find my spiritulality is how I remain sane at times of unease, and understand why things occur. the great tao is like a vast and endless river of truth and knowledge which flows into whatever tributaries will tap its power. its a school of thought whos teachings and morals bend the mind and teach contentment and reserve.
in our modern day, more than ever, 'spirits' (ya, liqour) have replaced spirituality and religion, the spirits which reside within each of us. if you need reaffirmation of this, simply consider the people (particularly young people) who (a) go to church every sunday (b) go to church at least once a year (c) drink every day/weekend and don't go to church ever (d) people who drink at least once a year and don't ever go to church.
i.e. christians may denounce weed which may turn some away from christianity or some away from weed. other christians blaze up and probably experience some ideological conflict in between the garage and the church. others may see no conflicts. most of the stoners I know aren't die-hard religious.
the die-hard spirituals often times will also choose paths of abstinence in the majority of situations.
personally, I find my spiritulality is how I remain sane at times of unease, and understand why things occur. the great tao is like a vast and endless river of truth and knowledge which flows into whatever tributaries will tap its power. its a school of thought whos teachings and morals bend the mind and teach contentment and reserve.
in our modern day, more than ever, 'spirits' (ya, liqour) have replaced spirituality and religion, the spirits which reside within each of us. if you need reaffirmation of this, simply consider the people (particularly young people) who (a) go to church every sunday (b) go to church at least once a year (c) drink every day/weekend and don't go to church ever (d) people who drink at least once a year and don't ever go to church.
almost all life on the planet earth will not live without oxygen. there is oxygen in all canned goods. water. all organisms need oxygen at some point.
oxygen is necessary for life. one legitamite argument for the occurrence of life versus the creation argument is one which calls on the unity of deep-sea gaseous ventilation, water, atmosphere, and lightning in combination to spark a single celled arrangement which could self-propogate.
and botulism blows
cbtwohundread
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No matter wat religion we all lo0k to the same person,we just do it in diff ways,as we speak diff languages and have dif. Customs.,.,.,who feels it knows it yall.,.,
SatansGift
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My opinion is life can't be lived to it's fullest capacity if you fear hellfire after death. Religion forces people in it's teachings to live a life with regret. It forces you to believe by acting on human nature you are committing a sin. Man is a animal and has basic animal instincts, yet religion tells you these instincts are wrong. If someone smacks you on one cheek, why should you turn the other cheek? Basic human nature tells you to smash the cheek of your attacker. If you were to turn the other cheek and walk away, you are setting yourself up to be attacked again. Yet if you were to smash the cheek of the one who smacked yours, they will think twice before attacking again. But religion says this is wrong. Man is nothing but an animal who has no NEED for religious doctrine to tell us how to live our life.
hanimmal
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We don't need religion. It is just a custom that our cultures have handed down through the years.
Initially it may have helped to form our societies by giving answers to many of the questions that we were not able to answer and give advice on how to live our lives (don't steal, because you may piss someone off and they will get you back). Religion has done much evil but also much good through the 60,000 or so years we have been around.
Now it is just scary to let it go for a lot of people. Kind of like a child and their blanket. They are petrified to lose it, but we know in reality it is not going to do anything to help protect them.
Initially it may have helped to form our societies by giving answers to many of the questions that we were not able to answer and give advice on how to live our lives (don't steal, because you may piss someone off and they will get you back). Religion has done much evil but also much good through the 60,000 or so years we have been around.
Now it is just scary to let it go for a lot of people. Kind of like a child and their blanket. They are petrified to lose it, but we know in reality it is not going to do anything to help protect them.
mexiblunt
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I turn the other cheek sometimes if it's petty, but once I've had enough I'll just take an eye or a tooth. So what's right? turn the other cheek or an eye for an eye?
Green Cross
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New age mystical nonsense
My religion doesn't teach to kill the infidels and round up 20 (or is it 30 I forget) virgins (15 year old girls I suppose) in the name of Allah - All religions are not the same. A very large percentage of young Muslim men think it's OK to kill for their beliefs.
Why do people believe in Obama? Not that he's a religion, but some call him "the one (chosen)", and believe he's the answer to their prayers.
I believe in the Bible is the word of God, and i can't wait to see the godless to put thier faith in the Antichrist, just as you see them blindly fallowing Obama, just as the Germans followed Hitler. Yes, I believe I will see this in my lifetime.
If you think you are the only person you need to believe in then you will obey your own selfish desires, and you have no sense of right or wrong, except what feels good, or what scares you. Fear is a good motivator. Those who say they don't belief in religion, or God, are still capable of being deceived, or am I supposed to believe you don't experience feelings of failure and guilt?
Anyhow life without belief would be pretty boring. Would you rather see parking lots instead of stained glass, and reduce marriage to a contract that's signed at the courthouse? Religious is also a club, it's a sense of community, and tradition, for what it's worth.
cbtwohundread
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i dont speak on behalf of the idiots and the lost and weakheart i speak for i.,.,i dont vote never registered because i dont put trust/faith in man i overstand them.,.,i dont cho0se sides rep./dem.,.,its all nonsense i live in the light and the law of ini beliefs.,.,.anything i say is from my point of view .,.,when i speak of any religion or any lifestyle i will plainly point out the seperation of the wolves in sheeps clothing and the rightous because there are those seperations in everything.,.,you put yourself in a bad catagory off the start line.,i never spoke of wat u were defensive of.,.i dont think of terrorist as muslims there is a diff.,.,you seam kinda donkey jawed over wat i said,.,.but so be it,
both are used to induce stress too. science class and religion's endless moral conflicts no doubt induce stress.
idk i never been a big fan of christianity but I think the whole 'confess and be forgiven' bit is a little too forgiving, and doesn't teach people to actually be accountable for their actions. especially girls.
"forgive me father for I have sinned, I slept with 4 different guys this week and I'm not married"
"10 hail marys and a blowjob and the lord loves you"
hanimmal
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The only people that call him the chosen one is hannity and rush. And they do it in a make fun of him kind of way.
And that is not looking at all the craziness that the bible was used for so a very slanted view.
The crusades ended up killing millions? during the dark ages, because christians wanted to spread the word.
The witches hammer ended up paving the way to killing thousands of women because they were deemed evil.
Anyone that questioned the bible with facts were murdered (ie world is round, earth revolves around sun ect)
Slavery was sanctioned by the bible.
The halocaust and nazis used the bible as its source and that they were doing gods work.
The racism that continued in the US was pushed by people holding the bible as the reason for it.
Now gay rights is being suppresses with people using the bible as their source of good.
Same with killing and bombing abortion clinics, they are religious people that are fighting gods fight.
And those are just a few of the larger points. Christians are no angels.
I do not put my faith in the that the bible was not written by men that had an agenda. But you don't seem to understand that because we don't believe in the words of the bible, we are already used to questioning things, we tend to not blindly follow without reason anything, much less anyone claiming to be our saviors.
And that is why you are wrong, we that have not been sucked into the dogma of the bible will not blindly and unquestioningly follow anyone. It is the people that have always placed their faith in imaginary beings that have no proof that tend to blindly follow into the traps that con artists provide.
Where do you think that we don't know what scares us? That is rediculous. We have morals and a clear understanding of right and wrong, trying to think otherwise is silly.
And fear? I fear falling off a cliff, hell I fear getting stung by wasps. We are all humans, this is what very religious people tend to forget because of some superiority being 'godly' gives you. We are all fundementally the same.
Not at all! Look at the world, you fail to realize that not believing in god doesn't stop us at the wonders of our world. I look at things like plants and am just amazed.
I love seeing animals and how they interact and how human it really is. How animals take care of their young, or care about the group they are in. Anything you look at is amazing.
But we don't have to stop there and say praise jesus. We get to look deeper and make connections and try to figure out the processes that made it that way! It is amazing, how can we be bored in this world.
And before anyone jumps into not believing in an afterlife, science is still there for you. Energy cannot be destroyed. So I am not saying that when I die I will be able to remember, but when I die and the plants and animals start to break down my body I will become part of them. And part of everything else that interreacts.
Even deeper look into string theory. We are all connected to everything else it is amazing when you start to see that you even have a pull of gravity on the earth.
The world is amazing, and it has not outgrown god, there is still plenty of room for god. Our understanding has just outgrown the bible that was written by man.