Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?

Tenner

Tenner

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Sure Shot said:
So now, God, IS your conscious?
So, if it's true, that God is everything, including the voice in my head.
Then, no man has ever born an original idea. No man can be held accountable for his actions. For his action are spawned from his ideas, that are God himself.
Not even the original sin, that was God's voice, telling Eve that Satan was right.
Your God's voice is even in the Jihadist down the street, telling him that you are an infidel and disconnected forever from the one true God.
Your God, is writing this, not me. So please, do not reply,.............. cause I don't talk to God.
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Sure shot you made me LOL! Plus what would be the point to create souls, bring them alive and send them to a world, watch them do good and bad and then punish or reward respectively...


I`m a person who was hit at school to learn muslim prayers and that was 7 years ago and oh, i know them by fucking heart! I don`t even like the word atheist but hey ho..

While reading about quantum physics and the uncertainty principle on wikipedia i realised that there HAS to be a point, where particles, matter all of the crap just DO things for no reason, just like that! We will eventually have to just accept whats around us as there will be no further explanation for the random events around us. A lot of people accept god and dont question any further because it stops our curious, out of hand mechanism of infinite questioning and just gives us a reason. I dont understand why people have to do this, cant you just accept whats around you and find your own reason rather than play mind games?

And creation? Who is to say there is ever nothing?
 
VER D

VER D

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god did make the devil but the devil is just a lil 2 timing bitch and religion was another thing invented by man to cause problems but really they are all the same in which the have good and evil and u dont have to believe in god but just know that there are things at work that we cant even begin to imagine we aren't shit compared to whats really out there
 
Tenner

Tenner

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VER D said:
just know that there are things at work that we cant even begin to imagine we aren't shit compared to whats really out there
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I second that and sometimes wonder if we are even capable of understanding whats out there with our "operating systems"
 
Padawanbater2

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Tenner said:
I second that and sometimes wonder if we are even capable of understanding whats out there with our "operating systems"
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What makes people think this? Furthermore, what makes people think this is an acceptable answer to... anything?

"God did it, but he's too complicated for us humans to ever understand why or how..." - yep, I'm satisfied!

I'm really pretty sick of this cop out of an answer. Anyone that says something like what you just said is only substituting their own bullshit for something that is unknown.

You DO NOT KNOW if ANYTHING is out there, whether it be something we can or cannot comprehend or understand.

I ask you, and ANYONE else who uses this bullshit cop out answer; What ELSE in all of human fucking history has EVER been "too complicated for humans to understand"? Give me one goddamn thing.

That's right, there's NOTHING. ANYTHING humans can think up we can understand.. and where the fuck do you people think the god concept came from...

I'll give you a hint.... half of us on this thread use it, the other half flip the switch and proclaim "it's just too complicated!"..
 
Padawanbater2

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If "it's too complicated" or "our human minds just can't comprehend it.." then how can there be any kind of description of any gods traits or abilities or even message?

Yeah, the preachers and believers have all the fuckin' answers, up till you start asking real questions... then it becomes "It's too complicated, God works in mysterious ways..."...

There's a special corner in my brain I place people like that in..
 
Louis541

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Padawanbater2 said:

What makes people think this? Furthermore, what makes people think this is an acceptable answer to... anything?

"God did it, but he's too complicated for us humans to ever understand why or how..." - yep, I'm satisfied!

I'm really pretty sick of this cop out of an answer. Anyone that says something like what you just said is only substituting their own bullshit for something that is unknown.

You DO NOT KNOW if ANYTHING is out there, whether it be something we can or cannot comprehend or understand.

I ask you, and ANYONE else who uses this bullshit cop out answer; What ELSE in all of human fucking history has EVER been "too complicated for humans to understand"? Give me one goddamn thing.

That's right, there's NOTHING. ANYTHING humans can think up we can understand.. and where the fuck do you people think the god concept came from...

I'll give you a hint.... half of us on this thread use it, the other half flip the switch and proclaim "it's just too complicated!"..
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Human DNA, the thought process of the human brain, so much to do with biology it's retarded. there's alot of stuff we don't know.
 
mindphuk

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Louis541 said:
Human DNA, the thought process of the human brain, so much to do with biology it's retarded. there's alot of stuff we don't know.
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I'm pretty sure pad is talking about not unknowns but things that are unknowable. He has already admitted in other threads there are plenty of gaps in our knowledge. There are many things we don't know but no one can claim they are unknowable. We have made great progress in understanding human congnition -- enormous leaps in knowledge in only the last half dozen years or so -- and DNA holds very few secrets anymore.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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Padawanbater2 said:

What makes people think this? Furthermore, what makes people think this is an acceptable answer to... anything?

"God did it, but he's too complicated for us humans to ever understand why or how..." - yep, I'm satisfied!

I'm really pretty sick of this cop out of an answer. Anyone that says something like what you just said is only substituting their own bullshit for something that is unknown.

You DO NOT KNOW if ANYTHING is out there, whether it be something we can or cannot comprehend or understand.

I ask you, and ANYONE else who uses this bullshit cop out answer; What ELSE in all of human fucking history has EVER been "too complicated for humans to understand"? Give me one goddamn thing.

That's right, there's NOTHING. ANYTHING humans can think up we can understand.. and where the fuck do you people think the god concept came from...

I'll give you a hint.... half of us on this thread use it, the other half flip the switch and proclaim "it's just too complicated!"..
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errmmm i was trying to say the same thing as you... The mystery of the universe is not something that can be solved by logic, that is my claim. We all know god is illogical as he has no creator. You didnt even read posts as you typed this shit up lol

And thats right, humans cant understand anything but they can understand to a degree to manipulate whats around them for their "benefit". Plus humans understanding is relevant to themselves. I dont think anything we know is true, but thats because truth itself doesnt exist. We do however have our own truth and own reality in our own small picture. We can only judge whats around us with our senses and thats just our senses, our feelings, our mind... on the grand scale we wont understand shit.

So i agree with your thoughts.
 
destructo

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Tym said:
That is insane, I don't even think you believe that. If you actually think of the implications, you would prefer to believe everything till someone could prove to you that it is false.

You automatically believe in big foot, santa, spider man, pixies, flying spaghetti monster, Invisible pick unicorn etc... Till you can disprove them, that is just insane.
This is why atheism is the default position. You reject extraordinary claims till they can be show valid.

As for actively disproving claims, many people do it. what's the claim?

Unmoved mover?
Infinite regress?

If nothing moves without a prior mover, then God must need a prior mover, as well. Otherwise God is nothing, which contradicts the conclusion. Thus, either the premise is untrue, in which case the argument is unsound, or the conclusion doesn't follow, in which case the argument is invalid. In fact, as stated, the argument is clearly self-contradictory.

Who created God?

Which god? The word "God" carries a lot of undesirable cultural baggage, denoting an intelligent being. If the ultimate cause of our universe turns out to be, say, a random quantum fluctuation, then that would be "God" by Aquinas's definition, but to call this phenomenon "God" would be very misleading.

Two bodies at rest will start to move towards each other due to gravity. They can be each other's first mover. Therefore, the prior mover requirement is unnecessary.

Pairs of virtual particles are created (and annihilated) all of the time, out of literally nothing. These particles affect each other's motion, thus disproving Aquinas's premise.

More exotically, if time were circular (i.e., if time repeated every so often, so that the year 1 were also the year ten trillion and one), then every motion could have a prior cause without infinite regress. This does not seem to be the case, though.

Even if there is an infinite regress of causes, so what? The human mind is uncomfortable with the concept of infinity, but reality has no obligation to make us comfortable.

These are just a few of the standard refutations.

The thing is, we don't have to disprove anything. In order to disprove something, it must first be proven, by definition.
The rational default position is non belief.
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Like others said, you missed my point. I know the unmoved mover paradox is unsound because of modern science, but infinite regress is not. I did not imply that we should ONLY try to disprove things, merely that we should look for both confirming and disconfirming evidence. If we cherry pick the confirming evidence, we will miss the disconfirming which could lead one to believe false things.

read: http://skepdic.com/confirmbias.html


The bare bone religious beliefs do not have empirical evidence. All you can do is try to logically contemplate the possibilities. There is no way to prove that god created the universe. There is also no way to prove that he did not create the universe. Atheists say "we do not know". Theists say "god did it".
 
Tenner

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Theists speak without knowing if what they beleive in exists or know what they are talking about. They are nothing but a cheap shot at a question which cant be answered due to the nature of logic. Logic can only compare what we see in a universe and make sense to manipulate objects and forces to our own benefits of survival. Its not capable understanding and I beleive it cannot be understood, not with logic anyway as that leads to infinate questioning...
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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why do people laugh at creationists ? ...................because its funny, i mean come on floods that wiped out the entire world , talking bushes , bright stars , its pretty fuckin hilarious .
 
Dislexicmidget2021

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People laugh at creationalists because of the seemingly naive structure of their arguments and reasoning in most or any debate u have with them.Just the words "intelligent design"being used to describe the culmination of our current form and functionality on this world is an understatement beyond reckoning but thats beside the point,they must use their own mundane sense of the world to attempt making sense of it.
 
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