Why Did Bush Knock Down The Towers?

ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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No.

Why would he? For a ruse to go to Afganistan? Oh boy, we have gained nothing from the war on terror, so what would be the motivation? Don't say oil because we have not taken one drop.
 
Johnnyorganic

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The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated homicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the U.S.

Bush was in Florida reading to schoolchildren. I have yet to see him on any surveillance tapes giving instructions to the murderers acting on orders from spiritual leaders of their religion of peace.
 
IGTHY

IGTHY

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This is odd,because right when that happened i've always said that our own government done that,but noone never believed me! Now look it's a following.
 
ZenMaster

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Generally yes, but I am serious on this subject.

I will admit I do have a natural tendency to ridicule most forms of conspiracy theories but I like to humor them occasionally and try to see things from their viewpoint and logic. But with all this "9/11 WAS IN INSIDE JOB LOLOBLJOMGOMGOMG!!11" I just don't see the reasoning behind it. The WTC produced alot of money, why choose that one if you are going to manipulate a false strike? I could understand better if we invaded a country that we could gain from, like Russia or somewhere in Europe. But Afganistan?? Not to mention Bin Laden openly claimed 9/11 was his doing..

The only thing I could see that Bush would gain from 9/11 would be to expand on his presidental powers, like the Patriot Act. If this is the case, then the House and Senate and the democrats in them, are the blame as well, for they all passed it. So, I am willing to accept that it is all a master plan from the U.S. government (Dems and Repubs) to gain more power over the people, but to single it out on Bush is just another roadsign on the "I H8 BUSH" bandwagon.
 
bts420

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The U.S. always gains from war. What pulled us out of the great depression? And multiple "recessions" in the past. What are most of our major corporations and government contracted companies going to benefit from people continually blowing their shit up??? hmm... wait maybe mass sells. Problem this time is this war is too small to get our asses out the financial mess we are in. Hope this next administration starts doing something right towards peace in this world and a solid future for the U.S. New transportation technology, reusable resources, and legalizing marijuana!!! for hemp uses of coarse. (paper, clothes, plastics, oil, sure im forgetting some things) =)
 
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fdd2blk

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Johnnyorganic said:
The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated homicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the U.S.

Bush was in Florida reading to schoolchildren. I have yet to see him on any surveillance tapes giving instructions to the murderers acting on orders from spiritual leaders of their religion of peace.
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yep, reading a book. UPSIDE DOWN!!! and the VP shot his buddy in the face while hunting. sure looks like these dudes are intelligent enough to pull something like this off. lololol :mrgreen::peace:
 
Johnnyorganic

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fdd2blk said:
yep, reading a book. UPSIDE DOWN!!! and the VP shot his buddy in the face while hunting. sure looks like these dudes are intelligent enough to pull something like this off. lololol :mrgreen::peace:
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Based on the source making the claim, I can't decide if G. W. Bush is a dribbling idiot or a criminal mastermind.
 
dirtyshawa

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Johnnyorganic said:
The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated homicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the U.S.

Bush was in Florida reading to schoolchildren. I have yet to see him on any surveillance tapes giving instructions to the murderers acting on orders from spiritual leaders of their religion of peace.
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bush wasn't reading to school children, bush was reading along as they were being read to by their teacher. nevertheless, when bush is told there was a attack what did he do? why didn't he immediately leave and act upon hearing this, i know i would of, but, no, no emotion nothing, it almost seemed like he wasn't surprised. what about the safety of the children, if our country is just attacked and your the president(a high value terrorist target) why would you endanger the children by hanging around? anyway, if i were you i'd just close my mouth for a minute look at the documentary take in the facts then make a comment. our government has a long history of such tactics and there is a WHOLE lot of proof that 9/11 was going to be done, by our government.
 
Johnnyorganic

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dirtyshawa said:
bush wasn't reading to school children, bush was reading along as they were being read to by their teacher. nevertheless, when bush is told there was a attack what did he do? why didn't he immediately leave and act upon hearing this, i know i would of, but, no, no emotion nothing, it almost seemed like he wasn't surprised. what about the safety of the children, if our country is just attacked and your the president(a high value terrorist target) why would you endanger the children by hanging around? anyway, if i were you i'd just close my mouth for a minute look at the documentary take in the facts then make a comment. our government has a long history of such tactics and there is a WHOLE lot of proof that 9/11 was going to be done, by our government.
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Look pal, you want to waste your time looking at propaganda, have at it. Just don't expect me to approach it with the same reverence you do.
 
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fdd2blk

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dirtyshawa said:
bush wasn't reading to school children, bush was reading along as they were being read to by their teacher. nevertheless, when bush is told there was a attack what did he do? why didn't he immediately leave and act upon hearing this, i know i would of, but, no, no emotion nothing, it almost seemed like he wasn't surprised. what about the safety of the children, if our country is just attacked and your the president(a high value terrorist target) why would you endanger the children by hanging around? anyway, if i were you i'd just close my mouth for a minute look at the documentary take in the facts then make a comment. our government has a long history of such tactics and there is a WHOLE lot of proof that 9/11 was going to be done, by our government.
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he's a moron. he was clueless as to the "reality" of it. look at katrina. took several days for that one to sink in. YouTube - Best Bushisms
 
mexiblunt

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fdd2blk said:
yep, reading a book. UPSIDE DOWN!!! and the VP shot his buddy in the face while hunting. sure looks like these dudes are intelligent enough to pull something like this off. lololol :mrgreen::peace:
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They may not have been smart enough to pull that off, but they very well could be dumb enough to let it happen.
 
ZenMaster

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bts420 said:
The U.S. always gains from war. What pulled us out of the great depression? And multiple "recessions" in the past. What are most of our major corporations and government contracted companies going to benefit from people continually blowing their shit up??? hmm... wait maybe mass sells. Problem this time is this war is too small to get our asses out the financial mess we are in. Hope this next administration starts doing something right towards peace in this world and a solid future for the U.S. New transportation technology, reusable resources, and legalizing marijuana!!! for hemp uses of coarse. (paper, clothes, plastics, oil, sure im forgetting some things) =)
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Well thats kind of true, stock went up for like Alliant and other companies that produce missile systems post 2001. Dealers of death will always profit from war, but did the government do all this for them?

What got us out of the Great Depression was for multiple reasons. For one, huge numbers of population went overseas which thus lessened the demand for jobs. Jobs were created to build tanks, airplanes, bullets, guns, ect. (Do you really see any of that now?) Ford stop making cars and went right to tanks. But most of all, it was only because United States' infrastructure and industrial capacity, that was untouched during the war, were the only one available to sell to the known world. Basically, everyone bought from the U.S. because their war-torn countries couldn't produce what they needed and that created a huge boom in our economy which propelled us to be the super power.

I hope the next administration cuts back on government power and goes more to state's rights.
 
ZenMaster

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dirtyshawa said:
bush wasn't reading to school children, bush was reading along as they were being read to by their teacher. nevertheless, when bush is told there was a attack what did he do? why didn't he immediately leave and act upon hearing this, i know i would of, but, no, no emotion nothing, it almost seemed like he wasn't surprised. what about the safety of the children, if our country is just attacked and your the president(a high value terrorist target) why would you endanger the children by hanging around? anyway, if i were you i'd just close my mouth for a minute look at the documentary take in the facts then make a comment. our government has a long history of such tactics and there is a WHOLE lot of proof that 9/11 was going to be done, by our government.
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This is where people don't get it.

When the first plane hit the tower, he was notified by his staff. No, he is not going to throw the book in some kids face and bolt out of there, because they told him basically, "hey, a plane hit the WTC, it was probably an accident, we don't know, we will keep you informed" Okay then. When I first saw it, I thought it was an accident, but when it got hit AGAIN, something was going on, and that is when Bush left the school kids as well.
 
dirtyshawa

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ZenMaster said:
Generally yes, but I am serious on this subject.

I will admit I do have a natural tendency to ridicule most forms of conspiracy theories but I like to humor them occasionally and try to see things from their viewpoint and logic. But with all this "9/11 WAS IN INSIDE JOB LOLOBLJOMGOMGOMG!!11" I just don't see the reasoning behind it. The WTC produced alot of money, why choose that one if you are going to manipulate a false strike? I could understand better if we invaded a country that we could gain from, like Russia or somewhere in Europe. But Afganistan?? Not to mention Bin Laden openly claimed 9/11 was his doing..

The only thing I could see that Bush would gain from 9/11 would be to expand on his presidental powers, like the Patriot Act. If this is the case, then the House and Senate and the democrats in them, are the blame as well, for they all passed it. So, I am willing to accept that it is all a master plan from the U.S. government (Dems and Repubs) to gain more power over the people, but to single it out on Bush is just another roadsign on the "I H8 BUSH" bandwagon.
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to an extent you are right that a lot of our public servants are to blame but, i wonder how many of those individuals fell victim to the bush administration propaganda machine as you have. look, i know you want to believe everything you see on fox news but, the truth of the matter is they're being compensated by bush to back up and make up bullshit, FACT. bush was caught doing it and he hasn't denied it and continues to do it. oh, but fox news didn't tell you that one. look at the documentary not as a conservative, independent, liberal whatever just look at it as an AMERICAN and form your own opinion, not the one your told to have.
 
ZenMaster

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dirtyshawa said:
to an extent you are right that a lot of our public servants are to blame but, i wonder how many of those individuals fell victim to the bush administration propaganda machine as you have. look, i know you want to believe everything you see on fox news but, the truth of the matter is they're being compensated by bush to back up and make up bullshit, FACT. bush was caught doing it and he hasn't denied it and continues to do it. oh, but fox news didn't tell you that one. look at the documentary not as a conservative, independent, liberal whatever just look at it as an AMERICAN and form your own opinion, not the one your told to have.
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First off

I am very enlightened in everything politics, so calling me a victim of the "propaganda machine" is an ignorant statement. You call me a sheep because I don't agree with you, fine, but I call you a sheep following a different flock. The first weapon in the liberal arsenal is the good ol' "faux news" attack. You think I watch Fox News (which coincidentally I like a lot more than the REAL propaganda machines AKA CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, BBC) to get my facts and sources. I get mine through what I see from Congress and Senate hearings and the arguments presented from both Dem's and Repubs. You should try it rather than just croaking "FAUX NEWSSS".

Nobody gives credit to the good Bush had done, they'd rather insult him and anyone left who had the brains/balls to defend him is instantly set upon with insults.
 
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mexiblunt

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I stopped watching fox new on like day 2-3 of the whole shock and awe thing. when heraldo got busted being in two places at once kinda thing. He was reporting from one place can't remember the name. Come on half hour later wit hlive update and now says he is in such and such a place. Turns out there was no possible way he could have traveled the distance the his next story get prepared all the stuff., in half an hour. It was funny at the time. I just though like really how much of this am I supposed to believe if he is not even where he say he is.
 
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