why continually buy seeds?

If I were to buy some seeds, let's say for instance sensi seeds jack herer, and took a male and female and bred them, wouldn't those seeds be just as good as stock bought from sensi? I don't get why people consistently go back to seed banks for the same strain. Am I missing something?

some people like to phenol "hunt" and one pack of seeds,from some breeders/pollen chuckers/ect... is just not gonna cut it.and whos to say the male you pick is any good,or the female for that part?same for the breeders also.

I think it is because of this.

Unless you keep an original mother and original father(or pollen stored) you will just be continually inbreeding and ruining the genetics over time.

It requires less space, time and energy to just purchase some seeds.

A good solution that DOESNT involve breeding is to keep a mother plant and clone her a couple times for a few grows. Then make one of the other clones the mother and repeat.

Cloning will save you alot of money.

Flaming Pie said:

Cloning will save you alot of money.

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if you find what you are looking for in one pack.

some people dont have the space or time to breed. others like trying different strains all the time. some like having a personal seedbank for whatever end of the weed world scenario they have in their head.

and you could be missing something, depending on the strains you are trying to cross/breed, you probably arent going to end up with same quality as the parents, unless you are doing IBLs or landraces. many seeds from breeders are hybrid or polyhybrid now, so chances are every seed you breed with yield a different kind of plant.

just really research your genetics and get stable strains if you want to go this route.

I think I'm addicted !

I'm not speaking from experience but I would have thought making seeds would be easier and less space consuming than clones. Also it's not practical for me personally to grow continually so seeds are a plus.

Herb & Suds said:

I think I'm addicted !

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me too! i just got another order from sos yesterday. i just cant stop. and at this point i have way more than i will probably every grow, i dont even know what to pop next, ill probably have to do a lottery ha!

Dboi87 said:

I'm not speaking from experience but I would have thought making seeds would be easier and less space consuming than clones. Also it's not practical for me personally to grow continually so seeds are a plus.

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making seeds sucks,(if you want something nice).anybody can find a male,and hit all the females in the room,but then you have to grow them seeds out,just to see what the male is about..ect.

Yeah... speaking of...Why do no breeders sell proven male pollen? You would think that would be a hit.

If the day comes that I pack it up and let go of my mothers (collecting for years) I will do an open pollination and save the seeds.

For me, it's to get new genetics. Once, I get them. Make some clones and make some Fem seeds. " Future seeds problem solved"
Plus, just like crossing different strains.

HeartlandHank said:

Yeah... speaking of...Why do no breeders sell proven male pollen? You would think that would be a hit.

If the day comes that I pack it up and let go of my mothers (collecting for years) I will do an open pollination and save the seeds.

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if they sold their pollen of the studs they wouldn't be in business anymore.

beuffer420 said:

if they sold their pollen of the studs they wouldn't be in business anymore.

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Really? I would still be buying seeds. I would just like to backup what I have in seed form. I would pay a bit for some good proven pollen too.
You can buy straws of bull juice.. The cattle exchange has not crumbled.. ?

HeartlandHank said:

Yeah... speaking of...Why do no breeders sell proven male pollen? You would think that would be a hit.

If the day comes that I pack it up and let go of my mothers (collecting for years) I will do an open pollination and save the seeds.

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I've wondered that myself.... and to the open pollination thing, that is sort of what I mean. I wasn't talking about trying to develope something new or stabilize anything but simply wondering if I took two strains from reputable breeders (my guess is all their strains are pretty decent or people would just use bagseed) and made seeds wouldn't they at least be as good as the parents if not better? I know I wouldn't be able to predict the traits but who cares? I should have good smoke

beuffer420 said:

if they sold their pollen of the studs they wouldn't be in business anymore.

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I think if anything it would spur business... imagine being able to buy a guaranteed female and have proven male pollen at hand. Makes things a lot easier and in turn more fun

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Really? I'de still be buying seeds. I would just like to backup what I have in seed form. I would pay a bit for some good proven pollen.

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Agreed... golden tiger pollen without the 5 month grow

People go to seedbanks because unless for some reason you have the time space and energy for proper selections to take place (numbers greater than 1000 at a time) over multiple generations whatever you produce simply will not be as good as someone who has the time to make some ibls and then cross those into a superior but stable f1 and plus someone pays them when all that work is done not so with most closet breeders nd pollen chuckers. But like you said if you have 1 ibl (or a good proven male from one ibl and a female from another you can try an f1 cross) and with some basic knowlege of rbreeding you ahould have some pretty decent gear at your disposal and while it may not be quite as good as mr nice or tga or cali connection you should still get some damn fine plants (and shmooke) from good solid home breeding.

Other than pheno hunting, I don't see much point in buying the same seed over and over again; it's not cost effective.

Ramble: I make any strain I cultivate into a mother plant; run clones from her until I'm bored w/ the strain and replace it w/ another mother plant. I prefer to get more than 1 seed of a particular strain so I can pick from a few female phenotypes and also so I can create another mother later on down the road from any unused seeds. I love Nirvana's seed bank because you can buy in bulk for good prices; 10 bubblicious seeds will last me like 4 years. However, the pick n' mix option from distributor Attitude gives me 1 reg or fem bean and let's me just get right down to it; and what a selection..