Why cant I find a crumble recipe ANYWHERE?!
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Guys lets not get into a chest puffing contest. I want to keep this thread focused on recipes and techniques. And so far you guys have been VERY informative and I REALLY APPRECIATE the help and knowledge sharing.[/QUOTE]
What?? Who's puffing chests?? Bulbonic is legit so I'm asking him a legit question because I want to know more about this. I think you mis understood my sinsear question for baiting an argument, but it wasn't. I'm here to learn. I keep the bullshit in toke n talk.
Bublonichronic
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Sap, terp filled sap
Are you talking when the oil is translucent like shatter but soft and plyable? Because mine comes out like that sometimes and I would like to know how to do it more often. I like shatter but its a bitch to work with.
Bublonichronic
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Yea pretty much
What's is your process?
Bublonichronic
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Well I think it mostly depends on strain, has to be a really oily/Terpy strain, like I said my blue dream goes straight from "tane soup" to shatter and will still have a lot of butane residual left so no way to get a nice sap from it, but ultimately terpen preservation is the name of the game when making any hash
Ahhh ok. Makes total sence. Thanks man
Mr710fromthe510
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Lets hear the recipe from start to finish guys. Ill go 1st. 
ok, heres my shatter process.
1. Prep and equipment. I have a 1 gallon vacation chamber, a 3 cfm pump, about a 4 oz.stainless steel extraction tube with valves on top and bottom, pyrex dish and us 5X or 7X Honey-Do butane.
2. I usually heat my trim on low temp in oven to completely dry out product. I find if Idont, alot of frozen plant material (which I call "sea sponge) ends up floating in tane after blast and have to fish it out. Heating trim slightly takes care of that. Also prepare 1st water bath with 85 to 90 degree water. I tried blasting onto PTFE paper but found I dont really like it. So I still scrape.
3. With both valves open, I run 2 cans of tane until I see sbout a cans worth comes out then shut bottom valve and finish putting in the 2nd can then shut top valve. I then take tube and turn upside down and spin on its side to soak tane in material for about 3 minutes. Then I put tube back over Pyrex and open bottom valve slightly until air comes out then close. I then proceed to out in another can until empty and then repeat the turning upside down thing. Again open bottom valve until air comes out and thwn run my 4th and final can. So thats 4 cans to 4oz.
4. Once tube is empty, I put pyrex in 90 degree water bath. Once the bubble action slows to stops, I bring inside for 2nd water bath in double broiler over hot plate again maintaining 90 degrees.
5.Once all bubble action. Has came to a halt, I then proceed to scrape. I wipe onto a slick pad and put in the vacuum chamber set to 85-90 degrees. I flipped aprox. every 5-6 hours for at least 3 days .When i feel its done i crank it up to 95 for about an hour or until slick . And i end up with some nice shatter. So thats my shatter recipe . Now looking to make crumble. I wanna hear your guys recipes
ok, heres my shatter process.1. Prep and equipment. I have a 1 gallon vacation chamber, a 3 cfm pump, about a 4 oz.stainless steel extraction tube with valves on top and bottom, pyrex dish and us 5X or 7X Honey-Do butane.
2. I usually heat my trim on low temp in oven to completely dry out product. I find if Idont, alot of frozen plant material (which I call "sea sponge) ends up floating in tane after blast and have to fish it out. Heating trim slightly takes care of that. Also prepare 1st water bath with 85 to 90 degree water. I tried blasting onto PTFE paper but found I dont really like it. So I still scrape.
3. With both valves open, I run 2 cans of tane until I see sbout a cans worth comes out then shut bottom valve and finish putting in the 2nd can then shut top valve. I then take tube and turn upside down and spin on its side to soak tane in material for about 3 minutes. Then I put tube back over Pyrex and open bottom valve slightly until air comes out then close. I then proceed to out in another can until empty and then repeat the turning upside down thing. Again open bottom valve until air comes out and thwn run my 4th and final can. So thats 4 cans to 4oz.
4. Once tube is empty, I put pyrex in 90 degree water bath. Once the bubble action slows to stops, I bring inside for 2nd water bath in double broiler over hot plate again maintaining 90 degrees.
5.Once all bubble action. Has came to a halt, I then proceed to scrape. I wipe onto a slick pad and put in the vacuum chamber set to 85-90 degrees. I flipped aprox. every 5-6 hours for at least 3 days .When i feel its done i crank it up to 95 for about an hour or until slick . And i end up with some nice shatter. So thats my shatter recipe . Now looking to make crumble. I wanna hear your guys recipes
Mr710fromthe510
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BTW ...mostly run Chem-dawg and Green Crack from my partners indoor harvests. Otherwise im using trim from last years outdoor harvest. The indoor averages at about 1/4oz per blast and out door between an eighth and 5 gram per oull
Mr710fromthe510
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Andquestion: after five or six hours when it's time to flip do you guys still flip if there's a bunch of bubbles in it or do u wait till it slicks down?
abe supercro
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*sense
Mr710fromthe510
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Anyone? Recipes? I hope this thread hasnt died already
KLITE
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Whe you change the nucleation point of a carboxylic acid you pretty much are destabilizing it by changing its consistency through higher temperatures or agitation with the solvent and atmospheric gases. In my honest opinion this isnt too good. Ive had some wax made by supposedly the best extract technicians in spain and after two months it started changing its consistency. My shatter stays like glass in hot summers days at the beach (well might go pull and snap) and wont change into anything else for id fucking bet years.
Making well purged wax without agitation that would have small enough amount of residuals would be hard.
I have no evidence to support this but i think the cleanest wax i have tried! to make have been when i agitated the oil just before transfering onto parchment.
Most people her in Spain make wax by putting onto parchment increase vacuum at room temp, once muffin is full increase temp until it falls, put it back at room temp, increase vacuum, once muffins up again raise to wax temp until it falls. Basically repeat that until muffin no longer rises and ou end up with a thick sort of patty. I imagine if you got the temp right youd get a nice honey comb doing it that way,
Ive stopped trying to fuck with waxes, i fucking love glass and given the same material ill make a shatter much tastier and smoother than anyone would make a wax.
I remember for spannabis some of the yanks wouldnt want anyone to smoke wax on their nails. Thought that was a bit snoby but i can almost understand it lol
Making well purged wax without agitation that would have small enough amount of residuals would be hard.
I have no evidence to support this but i think the cleanest wax i have tried! to make have been when i agitated the oil just before transfering onto parchment.
Most people her in Spain make wax by putting onto parchment increase vacuum at room temp, once muffin is full increase temp until it falls, put it back at room temp, increase vacuum, once muffins up again raise to wax temp until it falls. Basically repeat that until muffin no longer rises and ou end up with a thick sort of patty. I imagine if you got the temp right youd get a nice honey comb doing it that way,
Ive stopped trying to fuck with waxes, i fucking love glass and given the same material ill make a shatter much tastier and smoother than anyone would make a wax.
I remember for spannabis some of the yanks wouldnt want anyone to smoke wax on their nails. Thought that was a bit snoby but i can almost understand it lol
Mr710fromthe510
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Thank you for that. Can you share your amazing shatter recipe. Step by step for us beginners?
KLITE
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I get the highest qualities of end product when the product was slowly dried and in a cold room. When i want REALLY light shatter I will stick material in dehydrator at 30C for a few hours. I have found however a small reduction in taste intensity tho not in its complexity. Maybe 10% reduction max.
I get everything as cold! as i possibly can with dry ice sleeves and freezing material and gas. I dont have any scientific background to this but i get higher yields if everything is cold as hell and much much lighter shatter. I use a 50 micron filter as well as coffee filters.
I cant stress enough how important the material is, and this is not just the quality its how broken up it is, how many trichless leaves there are in the mix. If you hafto break up your material do it by hand and try breaking plant material as little as possible. People who claim higher yields with ground vs non ground are basically extracting shit and not so much cannabinoids.
Avoid scraping at all costs and pour your oil onto parchment. I first pull a vacuum at room temperature and watch how the oil behaves as i slowly increase it. You want that muffin to fall gradually, from my experience, so increase 1C every 5 or 10 min. If you raching temps much above 33 to 35C and muffin doesnt fall or bubbles just dont seem to be of a gooey enough consistency to let butane out under vacuum conditions imo it could be due to lipds and waxes. The terpier the oil the easier it purges at lower temps.
If you like your shatter to look like swiss cheese and make everyone think youre an artist (lol) flip your patty very early on maybe even within first 24h. wait until hardly any reaction happens, flip again, you shgould get some more holes and purge til no reaction. I usually purge from 4 to 8 days. It should look sumat like this:
Or just flip when reaction stops on each side and it should look like this:
Or if you use some kick ASS!! amnesia nugs it could look like this (lol just showing off now):
This one was made with a solvent blend ratio suggested by @Fadedawg, 50 ntane 50 npane, and im not ever using just butane unless make doing isobutane.
Also heres the LAST! time ive tried making well purged wax. I purged it at shatter temps flipped, and once purged i raised temps to like 50 C maybe even 55C, no vacuum. And in the course of TWO!!! fucking days it waxed up. It tasted like paper.
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