Why AzCS might not be all about compassion......

LOL! He gives meds away eh ? I seem to have been ignored. Sorry for the interuption, carry on with the fun !

Lucius Vorenus said:

Arizona Cannabis Society (CSA Advocates) does indeed have a pretty bad rap. Not sure why really because I met them before they started and they seemed cool. Apparently they are NOT since this is like the 50th time im hearing bad shit.

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I stand corrected on this as I was referring to Arizona Compassion Club and NOT AZCS. I figured I should pop in here and correct that since I had the 2 confused.

For the record I have had nothing but good dealings when chatting with various people from AZCS but have yet to go to one of their facilities.

I think the people on AZCS are awesome... As far as the way things are ran, I wouldn't complain about because its their "community" and they can run it how they want.
Weather anyone agrees with them or not it's still theirs. I think anyone wanting to use their services (community being one of the services they have) , then you have to play by their rules.
Otherwise start your own.

Room for all ! Those that are not well conceived will fall along the way while those that are worthwhile & supported will only grow. No reason for anyone to be self richous at this point.

RottenBoy said:

I think the people on AZCS are awesome... As far as the way things are ran, I wouldn't complain about because its their "community" and they can run it how they want.
Weather anyone agrees with them or not it's still theirs. I think anyone wanting to use their services (community being one of the services they have) , then you have to play by their rules.
Otherwise start your own.

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That is the same warped logic that North Korea uses ...lol. "Its our country we can fuck our people any way we want too.!!!!!!"

LOL you're dumb.

RottenBoy said:

I think the people on AZCS are awesome... As far as the way things are ran, I wouldn't complain about because its their "community" and they can run it how they want.
Weather anyone agrees with them or not it's still theirs. I think anyone wanting to use their services (community being one of the services they have) , then you have to play by their rules.
Otherwise start your own.

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They wouldnt have that "community" if it wasnt for the card holders.

I don't get all the hate. I mean, I do, but only 'cause Philosophist was reamed for being douchy. Attack the guy for being an asshole if ya want, but complaining about the costs just sounds like whining. It's like bitching about a plumber charging you $400 to fix a leaky pipe because some guy on craigslist can do it for $250.

BeaverHuntr said:

They wouldnt have that "community" if it wasnt for the card holders.

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You're right... and they wouldnt sell it for 400 an oz if the "community" wasnt willing to pay it...

Not to mention, I would pay 400 or more for the quality you get from a azcs co-op versus the shit people are selling on forums for 250-300...
most of the crap isnt cured or dried properly.

I know it seems like i am sticking up for azcs but im not, im just sticking up for the concept of what they do. There is alot of people selling for too much, I agree with you on that. But if you get it from a store front... then don't complain about the prices.. they have over head.. drug dealers on a forum have no overhead.
and with good quality and service comes higher prices... I say grow it yourself and dont worry what other people are paying.

apothecarist said:

I don't get all the hate. I mean, I do, but only 'cause Philosophist was reamed for being douchy. Attack the guy for being an asshole if ya want, but complaining about the costs just sounds like whining. It's like bitching about a plumber charging you $400 to fix a leaky pipe because some guy on craigslist can do it for $250.

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Thats why this thread was made to bitch and moan about the steep prices these places are charging. And try and warn other patients that there are much better places to buy your meds from you dont have to go somewhere with such a outrageous price.

apothecarist said:

I don't get all the hate. I mean, I do, but only 'cause Philosophist was reamed for being douchy. Attack the guy for being an asshole if ya want, but complaining about the costs just sounds like whining. It's like bitching about a plumber charging you $400 to fix a leaky pipe because some guy on craigslist can do it for $250.

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That is one of the most short sighted, ignorant statements i have ever read....like ever. And I know idiots from all over the world. Well done.
Complaining about the costs is what will get the costs down for you, you fucking idiot..... If we ALL are ok with over paying, they will ALWAYS over charge. Getting together and agreeing to NOT PAY THAT PRICE is what will force the price down. When the people like LV and AzCS have Lbs of wee they are not selling because they are getting undercut by better competition, it's a good thing for everyone NOT IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY SELLING POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God you really take the fucking idiot cake today buddy.

RottenBoy said:

You're right... and they wouldnt sell it for 400 an oz if the "community" wasnt willing to pay it...

Not to mention, I would pay 400 or more for the quality you get from a azcs co-op versus the shit people are selling on forums for 250-300...
most of the crap isnt cured or dried properly.

I know it seems like i am sticking up for azcs but im not, im just sticking up for the concept of what they do. There is alot of people selling for too much, I agree with you on that. But if you get it from a store front... then don't complain about the prices.. they have over head.. drug dealers on a forum have no overhead.
and with good quality and service comes higher prices... I say grow it yourself and dont worry what other people are paying.

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No thanks I'll continue to bitch and moan about the steep prices. Dont like reading this thread then stop worrying about what people are typing.

I haven't seen anyone saying WHERE you can get anything for less. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's the exception more than the norm. 350-400 an oz has been the market price for good indoor bud for a pretty long time. Anyone selling for less is just going to have their buyers adding a tax and passing it to someone else so they can smoke for free.

Philosophist said:

That is one of the most short sighted, ignorant statements i have ever read....like ever. And I know idiots from all over the world. Well done.
Complaining about the costs is what will get the costs down for you, you fucking idiot..... If we ALL are ok with over paying, they will ALWAYS over charge. Getting together and agreeing to NOT PAY THAT PRICE is what will force the price down. When the people like LV and AzCS have Lbs of wee they are not selling because they are getting undercut by better competition, it's a good thing for everyone NOT IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY SELLING POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God you really take the fucking idiot cake today buddy.

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Jesus christ, you really have issues.

You're too dense to even bother replying to.

apothecarist said:

I haven't seen anyone saying WHERE you can get anything for less. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's the exception more than the norm. 350-400 an oz has been the market price for good indoor bud for a pretty long time. Anyone selling for less is just going to have their buyers adding a tax and passing it to someone else so they can smoke for free.

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how about you gets some Rep and a higher post count and see what happens....

If you make friends on this board THE RIGHT WAY, you will never have an issue with over paying again i dare say.......Also just grow your own, its so fucking easy.
And i know people selling 200OZ to people...so. im not sure what you're on about with mark up and this and that. YOu have shitty friends, prolly because you have the social skills of a wood slug, but still try to over come that and make better friends.

lol look at the MULTS coming out and play. It would be nice if a MOD came and outed whoever you are. One member with a 2009 join date and 11 posts and the other guy with a June 2011 name and only 10 posts ..

Philosophist said:

how about you gets some Rep and a higher post count and see what happens....

If you make friends on this board THE RIGHT WAY, you will never have an issue with over paying again i dare say.......Also just grow your own, its so fucking easy.
And i know people selling 200OZ to people...so. im not sure what you ron about with mark up and this and that. YOu have shitty friends, prolly because you have the social skills of a wood slug, but still try to over come that and make better friends.

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MULTS
( Multiple screen names a MOD can out them showing what IP addresses are linked to screen names.)

apothecarist said:

Jesus christ, you really have issues.

You're too dense to even bother replying to.

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I do have many issues, but at least im not a fucking moron.
Have fun getting money raped for weed cuz you;re to stupid to do know better......
im going to go to my homies house, buying a zip for 220 and come home and smoking myself "dense" as you say...... have fun with what ever tragically sad thing you'll be doing.

lol, you are doing a perfect job of displaying who the moron is, comparing a storefront to your homies.

I don't get money raped. I just don't give a shit about what someone else is charging. I fight it by taking myself out of the market, not ranting like a whiny faggot.

apothecarist said:

lol, you are doing a perfect job of displaying who the moron is, comparing a storefront to your homies.

I don't get money raped. I just don't give a shit about what someone else is charging. I fight it by taking myself out of the market, not ranting like a whiny faggot.

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no you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RottenBoy said:

You're right... and they wouldnt sell it for 400 an oz if the "community" wasnt willing to pay it...

Not to mention, I would pay 400 or more for the quality you get from a azcs co-op versus the shit people are selling on forums for 250-300...
most of the crap isnt cured or dried properly.

I know it seems like i am sticking up for azcs but im not, im just sticking up for the concept of what they do. There is alot of people selling for too much, I agree with you on that. But if you get it from a store front... then don't complain about the prices.. they have over head.. drug dealers on a forum have no overhead.
and with good quality and service comes higher prices... I say grow it yourself and dont worry what other people are paying.

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what do you have a special deal with AZCS or do you work for them or something? or are you just an idiot trolling?

apothecarist said:

I haven't seen anyone saying WHERE you can get anything for less. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's the exception more than the norm. 350-400 an oz has been the market price for good indoor bud for a pretty long time. Anyone selling for less is just going to have their buyers adding a tax and passing it to someone else so they can smoke for free.

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you have really shitty connect if those are the prices you have been paying. we would classify you as an end consumer. and if those are the prices you were paying when it was illegal then now that it is legal it is easier to find and therefore cheaper and better quality. and speaking of quality, i have a patient which has bought from the AZCS many times to check out what they have and see what is going around and to be honest i can get better much fresher weed from other places. all the bud they got was old and crumbly and looked like some outdoor that another person i know has for 2000 an elbow. you know some of that nice norcal outdoor that some people save until dry times like now. and the edibles i have gotten from them were terrible. tried some fudge, rice crispy treats, hard candy and a few other goodies. the high all felt like it was made with schwag and there was bits of plant material in most of them which is disgusting and shows the quality they have to offer. so to be charging 400/ oz when they are getting lbs for 2000 is ridiculous. even street dealers dont try that bullshit. thats more than a 300% markup sorry but if they have that much overhead then their business plan is seriously flawed.

another note is the fact that since the laws passed there are all these new smokers. a lot of these people are older and would not know where to find good medicine or they have a very bad connect. these compassion clubs prey upon this naivety and desperation. in a sense these clubs dont have much competition when it comes to this demographic. we on RIU feel that it is our duty to our fellow patients to let them know there is an alternative and that what the compassion clubs are doing is not fair to them.