Why are you pointing up

Zypher

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Anyone know why my leaves are pointing up?
Dude there streching for the light, place the light 2-4 inches above the plant, make sure to touch the Top part of plant closest to light. Check and see if it is to hot for you. if so, its too hot for your plants and will cause burn. Hope this helps bro.


EDIT: also just came to mind is heat and lack of water. Whats the temp and humid. in the grow room?
 

Schmarmpit

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They don't look stretched at all. That's what very happy little plants do. Their leaves point up.
However, I wouldn't continue growing them in the same pot. Separate them now while you have a chance.
 

SirCrisp

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Dude there streching for the light, place the light 2-4 inches above the plant, make sure to touch the Top part of plant closest to light. Check and see if it is to hot for you. if so, its too hot for your plants and will cause burn. Hope this helps bro.

But the one right next to it is fine as you can see in the pic.

Its a 400w hps and its about 6-7 inches above plants also.
 

Zypher

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They don't look stretched at all. That's what very happy little plants do. Their leaves point up.
However, I wouldn't continue growing them in the same pot. Separate them now while you have a chance.

I Know i kinda thought about it, but i seriously think even as seedlings, there still too much heat there.

SIRCRISP

cooling conditions?, and temp and humidity too. Also listen to Schmarmpit, What if one was a male and an other where Fem, dont even risk it, plus roots grow fast and take some room :D
 

SirCrisp

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Leaves pointing up, like they're praying, is a deficiency of magnesium or manganese caused by bad pH.
Leaves are green and healthy looking on both plants, they have had a healthy watering schedule too, everything seems fine really I just dont know what my leaves are pointing up o.o
 

SirCrisp

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I Know i kinda thought about it, but i seriously think even as seedlings, there still too much heat there.

SIRCRISP

cooling conditions?, and temp and humidity too. Also listen to Schmarmpit, What if one was a male and an other where Fem, dont even risk it, plus roots grow fast and take some room :D

I'm not sure what the humidity is but I've had a cup of water in the box with the plants. Right now I have 1 exhaust fan and a oscillating fan on the inside keeping the temp at around 76-78. I have 4 comp fans coming in the mail so i can add 3 intakes, a second exhaust, and get rid of the oscillating fan as it takes too much space.

Here is my growbox btw, the light has been lowered since that picture a few days ago.
 

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KaliKitsune

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Leaves are green and healthy looking on both plants, they have had a healthy watering schedule too, everything seems fine really I just dont know what my leaves are pointing up o.o
Mine did the same thing - looked healthy, then they just DIED.
 

malbulja

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Mine did the same thing - looked healthy, then they just DIED.
My plant did the same thing when the temps got between 85-90 for more than 2 days. I opened the window and put a box fan blowing in cool air from outside and in hours they returned to normal. My money is on heat.
 

KaliKitsune

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Now on my second plant, the leaves are curling like a funnel, they are curling upward.
My plant did the same thing when the temps got between 85-90 for more than 2 days. I opened the window and put a box fan blowing in cool air from outside and in hours they returned to normal. My money is on heat.
Judging from the 'ram horning' being described above, I'm still going with magnesium or molybdenum deficiency - again because that's the same symptoms my plants did, in a closet maintained around 76-78 degrees at 45% humidity.
 

SirCrisp

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Judging from the 'ram horning' being described above, I'm still going with magnesium or molybdenum deficiency - again because that's the same symptoms my plants did, in a closet maintained around 76-78 degrees at 45% humidity.

I don't know why it would do that at such a young stage, I have it in Miracle Grow and have use nutes after every 2 watering.
 

SirCrisp

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mine do the same thing every time I water them, after a few hours they go normal
Here is a picture of each plant, on the one pointing up, the edge of it's leaf is starting to look unhealthy, idk what the problem with it is, this fan leaf has looked weird since it developed though.


The second picture is my healthy plant but as you can see the leaves are rolling inward, any suggestions?
 

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KaliKitsune

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I don't know why it would do that at such a young stage, I have it in Miracle Grow and have use nutes after every 2 watering.
PROBLEM FOUND.

You don't give a seedling nutes for the first three or four weeks, and your soil got 'hot' because of the added nutes in it plus what you added during feeding. The pH is probably WAY off and the nutrient strength is also likely way too high.

Which means you best flush the hell out of those plants and mix a little baking soda in with the flushing water to help bring your pH back up to near-neutral.
 

SirCrisp

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PROBLEM FOUND.

You don't give a seedling nutes for the first three or four weeks, and your soil got 'hot' because of the added nutes in it plus what you added during feeding. The pH is probably WAY off and the nutrient strength is also likely way too high.

Which means you best flush the hell out of those plants and mix a little baking soda in with the flushing water to help bring your pH back up to near-neutral.
Maybe but when I added nutes I only added about 1ml of grow and bloom into a gallon of water , thats less than 1/4 recommended dosage.
 

KaliKitsune

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That doesn't matter. Miracle Gro soil is hot as hell to begin with and is a very poor choice to start seedlings in.

Those plants are starting to look burned because they're getting burned. I had this exact same issue with using Miracle Gro soil. I'll even link you to the grow thread, you're showing the EXACT duplication of what happened to me, now, with what you describe.
 
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