Who's my baby's Daddy?

About 6 months ago I got 4 plants from a dispensary. One for a Mother and 3 to grow. Well, one of the 3 that I grew out produced seeds. From those seeds, I germinated 25, and every one was a female. Not a single male. When I grew those girls out, I ended up with 3 distinctly different plant types. All 3 plant types grown exactly the same way, with different results. One had wierd morphed looking leaves, and another was short & squatty, while the 3rd is tall & Sativa like, with long narrow leaves. I kept this type as a Mother.
My question is, is this just 3 different pheno types from a single strain, or is this the result of being pollinated by more than one male/herme?
I know that herme pollen produces more females, but 100%? Is this unusual, or is this possibly the result of feminized breeding?

Hermie seeds produce females or hermis almost every time I personally wouldn't use any seeds from a hermie it's not worth having a garden then having a dirty lil shemale pop up and ruin your whole garden. My advice is get some stable genetics and u won't run into hermie problems as likely in the future. I don't know why it looks like 3 different kinds of plants but my guess is weak genetics

weedsLV said:

Hermie seeds produce females or hermis almost every time I personally wouldn't use any seeds from a hermie it's not worth having a garden then having a dirty lil shemale pop up and ruin your whole garden. My advice is get some stable genetics and u won't run into hermie problems as likely in the future. I don't know why it looks like 3 different kinds of plants but my guess is weak genetics

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Thanks for your response...I should have been more specific...sorry. It's my understanding that some plants are genetically hermes and some occur as the result of stress. I personally don't have any hermes, and check my plants all the time. Until this plant, I hadn't even seen seeds in years. But I don't know this plants history. ie, I believe the plant was pollinated before I got it. The strain I purchased was called Blue Dot, a very stable medical strain that is clone only and is very popular in the Bay Area medical use community.

phenotypes def, even the best of the best genetics have phenotypes, just less. Kind of odd that out of 25 you ended up with just 3 phenotypes, honestly more surprised by that than the female ratio, the laws of probability say that must happen at some point, but the 3 phenotypes leads me to believe that you got pollenated from the same lineage, or very very close to. Probably not your neighbor growing dirt weed.

Thanks for your response. How many pheno can a single strain have? I've seen subtle differences in a single strain, but I've never seen such a dramatic and distinct difference. One looking/growing like an Indica and another looking/growing like a Sativa. The Indica type were harvested approximately 3 weeks before the Sativa type. The Indica bud was very fluffy and undesireable. But the Sativa type is like the holy grail, I call it breakfast bud because it smells like good rich coffee and tastes like blueberry muffins with a great "up" high and is a high yielder to boot! Not a single hermie.
I'm not sure what exactly happened, but I ended up with a Mother that is better than the original strain that I purchased.

A single "strain" improperly bred can have hundreds if not thousands of phenotypes, that is why you pay so much for high quality seeds, but everyone and their brother thinks they can breed. It is pretty complicated, but if you just random strains and cross them with no regard you are likely to make a genetic mess.

TruenoAE86coupe said:

A single "strain" improperly bred can have hundreds if not thousands of phenotypes, that is why you pay so much for high quality seeds, but everyone and their brother thinks they can breed. It is pretty complicated, but if you just random strains and cross them with no regard you are likely to make a genetic mess.

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I did not know there could be so many pheno types. I do know that some are more desireable and sought after in clone only form. [Sour disel comes to mind] & I know the odds of someone just "accidently" doing this are slim to none. I once read that it took 7 generations to create a stable hybrid strain. That's why I am so surprised to have the results that I have. But the proof is in the pudding, and this is some really good pudding!

Stable in seed form most likely, your clone only strains are not ness stable, just a stable plant from an instable line, that is why clone only.

TruenoAE86coupe said:

Stable in seed form most likely, your clone only strains are not ness stable, just a stable plant from an instable line, that is why clone only.

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That makes sense. And I think you're right about being pollinated by the same lineage. Appriciate your take on this.

Certainly, and if you feel like sending me one of those clones i wouldn't be upset. LoL. Happy growing man! Would love some pics sometime!

Yeah sounds like wack clones, Sativas produce seeds though aswell for the continuation of there future genetics. This is what i have read in books, Not sure if its true.. never grown a pure sativa or sativa dominate yet, If its true it could be the Sativa pheno dominating, I cannot understand why a collective would clone a Hermie... Go to the dispensary and ask questions, if the clones were from the same plant or whatnot.. If they were sativa dominate or indica.. Sounds like the dispensary is run by bankers and not horticulturists.

thenotoriousone said:

Yeah sounds like wack clones, Sativas produce seeds though aswell for the continuation of there future genetics. This is what i have read in books, Not sure if its true.. never grown a pure sativa or sativa dominate yet, If its true it could be the Sativa pheno dominating, I cannot understand why a collective would clone a Hermie... Go to the dispensary and ask questions, if the clones were from the same plant or whatnot.. If they were sativa dominate or indica.. Sounds like the dispensary is run by bankers and not horticulturists.

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I think you're on target as far as the dispensary goes, as it has already gone out of business. "Maybe too much product research"

Yeah mabe too much bunk proddy! Get clones from legit retailers. If your living in LA GreenCare on Wilshire or in OC/SD The Healing Dragon. I can vouch for there clones, most are healthy. its best to stay in communication with the dispensaries and ask them when new clones are coming and what genetics are available. They also have backroom genetics too, Ask em!! AK47 Cherry Pheno from Healing Dragon.. Its beautiful!

thenotoriousone said:

Yeah mabe too much bunk proddy! Get clones from legit retailers. If your living in LA GreenCare on Wilshire or in OC/SD The Healing Dragon. I can vouch for there clones, most are healthy. its best to stay in communication with the dispensaries and ask them when new clones are coming and what genetics are available. They also have backroom genetics too, Ask em!! AK47 Cherry Pheno from Healing Dragon.. Its beautiful!

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That's good to know. I love AK47 & I've grown it for years, but last summer I had to kill the genetics because it developed a systemic mildew and I couldn't take the chance of getting it in my other strains. I got mine from Serious Seeds. Have you ever grown any White Russian?