Whole plant is droopy

Bill_Nye

Bill_Nye

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Alright, so I'm back for a little help here lol..
Strain:Gelato Kiss/4weeks from sprout
Light:photontek 600w set at 50%
Soil:1/3 promix veg n herb, 1/3 ewc, 1/3 perlite. Also added biochar
Nutrients:Gaia green all purpose amended into soil. Fed molasses with watering one time 4days ago(I forgot to pH the water before feeding molasses on this one plant. So maybe pH swing affected the plant?)
Environment: daytime temps 75-79°, night time temps 68°-70°. Daytime rh 55%-65%, night time rh 65%-70% I water with distilled water that I aerate and pH at 6.8.
 

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Newcangro

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How often are you watering? Do you have a heater in your tent ? Your night time humidity is a little high, plants might not be breathing properly. Causing them to not intake water properly. I would bring the humidity down a bit. And bump your light up a bit
 
Hiphophippo

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I agree with above statement I wouldn’t let my nighttime temp go under 75 either also. what’s the distance on your lights from canopy? I wouldn’t ph my water growing in that medium and with those additives
 
Bill_Nye

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Hiphophippo said:
I agree with above statement I wouldn’t let my nighttime temp go under 75 either also. what’s the distance on your lights from canopy? I wouldn’t ph my water growing in that medium and with those additives
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Hiphophippo said:
I agree with above statement I wouldn’t let my nighttime temp go under 75 either also. what’s the distance on your lights from canopy? I wouldn’t ph my water growing in that medium and with those additives
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I can get my night time temps up, but I'll have to use a space heater, which I don't like to use much beings it runs my electric bill up lol I'll give that a shot though.. I'm watering every 3-5days. They are in 5gal pots and I give them a quart of water.. I haven't been phing my water every time the distilled water I buy hangs around 6.8-7ph. I only pH'd bc the molasses knocked the pH down to like 5.4. like I said though I didn't pH before I fed this plant. I did for others and they aren't showing similar signs.. I'ma try my best to get my night time rh down too, Ive been battling it as my set up is in my basement. I can afford a dehumidifier if I need too though. So you think my light should be turned up to 75% or I should raise it further from the canopy?
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Bill_Nye

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Kerowacked said:
Thirsty, wicked thirsty
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That might be right. So right now it's night time in the tent and my humidity is rather high 72% and the plant is perked back up some. Could that be bc the moisture it's taking in from the the air? And then when light comes on humidity drops and plant starts to sag bc of the lack of water in the soil?
 
Bill_Nye

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So I have a accurate 8 soil probe. And two of my plants are reading at a very low pH. The plant I posted is reading at 4.8 in one spot but other spots it's 6.6. other plant is same way it's reading 5.4 at one spot then in another it's in the 6s. I'm kinda stumped smh. Should I flush? Never had this problem before but this is only my third grow.
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Bring down the rh they aren’t perspiring enough and are retaining to much water which will lead to overwatering symptoms. Bring the humidity down to like 62 or 65 percent and bring your temps up to 76 or so with lights out and around 79 to 83 with lights on and they will perk right up
 
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Kassiopeija said:
did you let the soil cook for some time? that stuff can be tricky...

pH is also way too low, below 5 is no bueno, esp. MO's suffer
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I let the soil cook for 6weeks. Like I said though, pH is reading low in spots. Should I amend something to raise it?
 
Bill_Nye

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Hiphophippo said:
Bring down the rh they aren’t perspiring enough and are retaining to much water which will lead to overwatering symptoms. Bring the humidity down to like 62 or 65 percent and bring your temps up to 76 or so with lights out and around 79 to 83 with lights on and they will perk right up
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Can oversaturated soil lower the pH of the soil?
 
wotimdoin

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Hiphophippo said:
I agree with above statement I wouldn’t let my nighttime temp go under 75 either also. what’s the distance on your lights from canopy? I wouldn’t ph my water growing in that medium and with those additives
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Idk why people say things like that, we have land races where I'm from that grow in seasons with nights of 55f and days of 85f with no issue. Just saying, listen to the plant rather than a one size fits all answer. Many species evolved to grow in cold northern climates and temps above 80f can stress them, so setting a minimum of 75 so close to the maximum of 80 is pretty unnecessary. The only thing you're really doing is increasing the chances of getting airy buds. I wouldn't let night temps go outside of 65-75, and not let day temps go outside of 70-80, with lower temps being preferred for denser bud production.
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Growing weed outside is a lot different than growing it inside under LEDs The information I gave him is very valid information because you are creating the environment that you’re growing in unlike outside where you’re subject to the weather and the elements not saying the weed wouldn’t grow with temperatures dropping like that at night but it isn’t the ideal environment that you would want for the plant I look at it like this if you’re spending the money why not take the time and actually dial in your environment and grow it to the best of your abilities sorry for the long run on sentence I’m driving and this was voice to text
 
waxman420

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Soil looks dry Your over thinking this . Any chance thiers hydrophobic spots in tthose pots ? I would water from bottom a few times . Also why distilled water ? Start using half tap water, then 3/4 and then stop buying distilled water.
 
Hiphophippo

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wotimdoin said:
Idk why people say things like that, we have land races where I'm from that grow in seasons with nights of 55f and days of 85f with no issue. Just saying, listen to the plant rather than a one size fits all answer. Many species evolved to grow in cold northern climates and temps above 80f can stress them, so setting a minimum of 75 so close to the maximum of 80 is pretty unnecessary. The only thing you're really doing is increasing the chances of getting airy buds. I wouldn't let night temps go outside of 65-75, and not let day temps go outside of 70-80, with lower temps being preferred for denser bud production.
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Also if you keep the temps within a five or so degree of each other and the air flow right your plant will transpire more and in fact create denser buds not airy buds A3FB5FAD-50FC-43EE-9B59-DFA8EC552C73.jpeg
 
Bill_Nye

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waxman420 said:
Soil looks dry Your over thinking this . Any chance thiers hydrophobic spots in tthose pots ? I would water from bottom a few times . Also why distilled water ? Start using half tap water, then 3/4 and then stop buying distilled water.
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Yea man I've noticed that there is super dry spots in the soil. Most seem to be in the center on the pot like under the main stalk. Maybe my soil is compacted in spots? Idk. I woke up this morning seen another plant beside the droopy one drooping too, the exact same way so I stuck the pH pen in soil and it was reading 5.0 I don't even know if that matters and at this point I'm so frustrated with it. I stuck pen in the other pot and it was 4.2ph so I just yanked both of them up and may pull my other 5 up as well bc I can see them about to take a turn as well.
 
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