Who would you vote for the Republican ticket? (no left winger)

Who's the best candidate?


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hazyintentions

Well-Known Member
The part where he wants to Overturn Roe Vs wade and have Right wing bible thumping states outlaw abortion on their citizens?
His beef with Roe vs. Wade is based on the constitutionality of the issue, which you will NEVER address, he said something on an interview a couple weeks ago and it went something like this

"Anchor : Mr.Paul, so if you were handed a bill to sign into law that was 70% and 30% bad you wouldn't sign it into law for the 70% good?

Paul: No, because I believe that if we keeps signing bills into law that take away 30% of our liberties at a time before we know it we won't have any, so no I would not "

It's called incremental loss of liberty and while I have never heard he outright say "I want to overturn Roe vs Wade" I believe he is right in that parts of it infringe on the Constitution which seems to be more of a loosely followed rule book in the yes of people look you.

I am sorry that some sates will probably outlwa abortion given the chance but you forget there's 50 states and I HIGHLY doubt all 50 states will outlaw abortion so it's not like if you truly wanted an abortion you'd have no option.

As for his foreign policy your posts only reinforce his views that our country is overdrawn and out of line grappling the world in our global empire.

the fucker wants to get rid of minimum wage and let states decide the abortion issue?
Guess he would be ok if a state legalized slavery again also

states rights for some reason always = discrimination
Your constant arguement against Ron Paul relies on his being Pro-Life (as are most all republicans) and the fact that his is NOT ok with parts or laws such as the Civil Rights Act and Roe vs Wade that infringe upon the Constitution not that he believes they are immoral which is what you seem to believe beyond a doubt showing your ignorance and lack of understanding; and as you don't seem to care about the Constitution your last point is completely invalid,

13th amendment

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Ron Paul for one would never sign anything that would conflict with the constitution and beyond the horrific tone of your allegation it's done right dumb to think such a thing would ever happen or any such person running for POTUS would ever assume such a position.
 

smokebros

Well-Known Member
I chose Bachman simply because I'd like to see a woman in the presidency. She can't possibly be any worse than Obama.
Incase you didn't know, she was an attorney for the IRS from 1988-1993. Her husband runs a clinic that attempts to "convert gay people", and she's had 23 foster children that gets her money from the state of MN. She is bought and paid for.

The only candidate who is not bought and paid for, and not a former lawyer, is Dr. Ron Paul. RP2012.
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul is a Racist. his deeds and words have proven it

You are delusional. Or buy into it

Pick which one
His deeds? Please, what deeds. Let me quote your very own post, because I think it will show how evil and racist this bastard really is:

dukeanthony said:
Ron Paul earmarks:
Subcommittee on Military Construction:

• $2 million for City of Bay City for NuBlac Rehab Center (serving minority veterans)
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
Incase you didn't know, she was an attorney for the IRS from 1988-1993. Her husband runs a clinic that attempts to "convert gay people", and she's had 23 foster children that gets her money from the state of MN. She is bought and paid for.

The only candidate who is not bought and paid for, and not a former lawyer, is Dr. Ron Paul. RP2012.
What is wrong with a lawyer? Did Obama ruin it for you?
 

mista sativa

Well-Known Member
Congressman Paul is supposed to be on fox news tomorrow. He's finally getting the recognition he diserves by the media. Everyone tune in and post what you think.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I feel pretty good that i can withstand the intimidation techniques of the paulrahnas
don't.

they are a bunch of whiney, self-absorbed selfish assholes with persecution complexes (for the most part).

they have to endure so much of their freedom being taken away and black on white racism, and dear god, THE TAXES!

poor, poor, pitiful them. i hope they make it.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
It's seems there would be more suppoters of a canidate that supports the legalization of marijauna on rollitup.
he is ok with states prohibiting it. he hates freedom.

also, there is the whole him wanting to make decisions about my wife's uterus instead of leaving my wife to handle that. also the whole calling gays' lifestyles "unacceptable" and co-sponsoring an amendment to the constitution to keep them from getting married. there is also the whole racist newsletter he penned in the first person and then defended before he stopped defending it and made up some lie about how it was some elaborate scheme against him. then there is the whole wanting to get rid of civil rights because they impinge on the rights of bigots to be racist.

ron paul hates freedom, gays, women and minorities.
 

dukeanthony

New Member
he is ok with states prohibiting it. he hates freedom.

also, there is the whole him wanting to make decisions about my wife's uterus instead of leaving my wife to handle that. also the whole calling gays' lifestyles "unacceptable" and co-sponsoring an amendment to the constitution to keep them from getting married. there is also the whole racist newsletter he penned in the first person and then defended before he stopped defending it and made up some lie about how it was some elaborate scheme against him. then there is the whole wanting to get rid of civil rights because they impinge on the rights of bigots to be racist.

ron paul hates freedom, gays, women and minorities.
There are explanations for all of it

But you would have to be pretty stoned for it to make sense
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
There are explanations for all of it

But you would have to be pretty stoned for it to make sense
they have an explanation for everything, including explanations for the explanations, and none of it makes sense unless all of it does.

i just look at him as he is, an old codger that wants to pretend like he is libertarian yet is forced to court the righties to have any chance on their ticket. a confused, sad, pathetic old man.
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
how is local control over government anti-freedom, i thought freedom was about having your vote count and your interests represented, also ron paul is more interested in making marriage solely a religious institution than denying anyone the right to marry or whatever they wish to call it, sorry but no one should get tax breaks for being married, or having children, those are all choices you make, by providing a tax break you are subsidizing the decisions and applying political pressure towards people making that decision,

ron paul wants to help us get these people off of our back who wish to mold and shape society to their own idea of what is perfection, ron paul wants us to mold and shape our world by our individual choices, that means more freedom,


So shut the fuck up with your bigoted "ron paul is a racist, hates gays, blah blah blah" AND GET OFF YOUR ASS AND THINK FOR YOU DAMN SELF, WHY ARE YOU ARGUING ON BEHALF OF A BIG GOVERNMENT THAT WILL WIPE YOUR ASS AND SPANK YOU? WHY DONT YOU WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUSELF? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? THAT NO ONE WILL HELP YOU WHEN YOU FALL DOWN? WELL RON PAUL USED TO PROVIDE REDUCED/ FREE HEALTHCARE FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDNT AFFORD IT.
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
they have an explanation for everything, including explanations for the explanations, and none of it makes sense unless all of it does.

i just look at him as he is, an old codger that wants to pretend like he is libertarian yet is forced to court the righties to have any chance on their ticket. a confused, sad, pathetic old man.
OH AND I DO APROVE THE USE OF MY MULTIPLE IDENTITIES POST, and no i dont have three different social security numbers, i have three tax identification numbers
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
how is local control over government anti-freedom, i thought freedom was about having your vote count and your interests represented, also ron paul is more interested in making marriage solely a religious institution than denying anyone the right to marry or whatever they wish to call it, sorry but no one should get tax breaks for being married, or having children, those are all choices you make, by providing a tax break you are subsidizing the decisions and applying political pressure towards people making that decision,

ron paul wants to help us get these people off of our back who wish to mold and shape society to their own idea of what is perfection, ron paul wants us to mold and shape our world by our individual choices, that means more freedom,


So shut the fuck up with your bigoted "ron paul is a racist, hates gays, blah blah blah" AND GET OFF YOUR ASS AND THINK FOR YOU DAMN SELF, WHY ARE YOU ARGUING ON BEHALF OF A BIG GOVERNMENT THAT WILL WIPE YOUR ASS AND SPANK YOU? WHY DONT YOU WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUSELF? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? THAT NO ONE WILL HELP YOU WHEN YOU FALL DOWN? WELL RON PAUL USED TO PROVIDE REDUCED/ FREE HEALTHCARE FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDNT AFFORD IT.
that is just ron paul's latest rehashing of his view. if you'll recall, he was one of the co-sponsors of getting the federal government directly in charge of who could and could not marry. if you'll go back a little further, you'll recall he brought forth a bill calling the gay lifestyle "unacceptable".

but i forgot, history started in january 2009 with you guys :lol:

ron paul hates gays.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
OH AND I DO APROVE THE USE OF MY MULTIPLE IDENTITIES POST, and no i dont have three different social security numbers, i have three tax identification numbers
one person, one vote. anything beyond that is voter fraud.

so with you and beardo both down for the ron paul cause, we can make a new bumper sticker:

"fraudsters & lying thieves for ron paul!"
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
Sexual orientation legislation
Same-sex adoption
On 1999 House appropriations bill H.R. 2587, for the government of the District of Columbia, Paul voted for four different amendments to prohibit federal funding.[185] Of these, Amendment 356 would have prevented federal money appropriated in the bill (money "for a Federal payment to the District of Columbia to create incentives to promote the adoption of children in the District of Columbia foster care system") from being spent on "the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage," whether same-sex or opposite-sex.[186][187][188][189]
Same-sex unions
Paul opposes all federal efforts to define marriage, whether defined as a union between one man and one woman, or defined as including anything else as well. He believes that recognizing or legislating marriages should be left to the states, and not subjected to "judicial activism".[190] For this reason, Paul voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004.
In 2004, he spoke in support of the Defense of Marriage Act, passed in 1996. This act allows a state to decline to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries, although a state will usually recognize legal marriages performed outside of its own jurisdiction. The Defense of Marriage Act also prohibits the U.S. government from recognizing same-sex marriages, even if a state recognizes the marriage. Paul co-sponsored the Marriage Protection Act, which would have barred federal judges from hearing cases pertaining to the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act.[190][191]
Paul has said that recognizing same-sex marriage at the federal level would be "an act of social engineering profoundly hostile to liberty."[192] Paul stated, "Americans understandably fear that if gay marriage is legalized in one state, all other states will be forced to accept such marriages."[193] He says that in a best case scenario, governments would enforce contracts and grant divorces but otherwise have no say in marriage.[194] Paul has also stated he doesn't want to interfere in the free association of two individuals in a social, sexual, and religious sense.[195][196] Additionally, when asked if he was supportive of gay marriage Paul responded "I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want."[195]
In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed from the jurisdiction of federal courts "any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction" and "any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation."[144] If made law, these provisions would remove sexual practices, and particularly same-sex unions, from federal jurisdiction.
Same-sex marriage
In a 2007 interview with John Stossel, Paul stated that he supported the right of gay couples to marry, so long as they didn't "impose" their relationship on anyone else, on the grounds of supporting voluntary associations.
Don't ask, don't tell
In the third Republican debate on June 5, 2007, Paul said about the U.S. military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy:
I think the current policy is a decent policy. And the problem that we have with dealing with this subject is we see people as groups, as they belong to certain groups and that they derive their rights as belonging to groups. We don't get our rights because we're gays or women or minorities. We get our rights from our Creator as individuals. So every individual should be treated the same way. So if there is homosexual behavior in the military that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. But if there's heterosexual behavior that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. So it isn't the issue of homosexuality. It's the concept and the understanding of individual rights. If we understood that, we would not be dealing with this very important problem.[196]
Paul elaborated his position in a 65-minute interview at Google, stating that he would not discharge troops for being homosexual if their behavior was not disruptive.[195]
Ultimately, Paul voted in the affirmative for HR 5136, an amendment that leads to a full repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," on May 27, 2010.[197] He subsequently voted for the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 on December 18, 2010.
Paul has been a critic of the Supreme Court's decision on the Lawrence v. Texas case in which sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional under the Fourteenth Amendment. In an essay posted to the Lew Rockwell website he described his opposition to "ridiculous" sodomy laws, but his fear that federal courts were grossly violating their role of strictly interpreting the constitution, and setting a dangerous precedent of legislating from the bench, by declaring "sodomy" a constitutional right.
Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment "right to privacy". Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution. There are, however, states’ rights – rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards.[198]
American Community Survey
He views the new American Community Survey questions as “both ludicrous and insulting”, believing that the information is simply none of the government's business.[199]


Ron paul believes in limited powers of government, as such he believes in only voting yes for things that are within the power of the federal government to do, this means he has voted against the federal government funding things that the federal government has no right funding, does this make him racist no, nor does it make him a bigot, the federal government has no right defining marriage, therefore the feds should have no say in gay marriage gay adoption etc etc etc.
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
You see some people stick to their guns in the case of ron paul that has been voting within the limits of the federal powers granted by the constitution.
 
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