Who uses hydro to grow there meds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yepe3cyUbUs

thats my RDWC. I had problems with water temps so I went back to dirt. someday when i can get a dedicated space, Ill go back to hydro, you cant beat the growth

Looks good J of C what type of nutes and do you use RO water? Thanks

bubble jugs was sweet to start. A dwc was cool too but the real one I use is soil based soilless mix with fox farms nutes. I like vacations and not having to trust somebody to help out so with that and the buffering I can't find a reason to change. I am reading the TLO and will try it but I don't see it beating this system for a while. of course what you know you're best at so it takes time with the TLO I bet. we'll see 1 try at a time.

i was going to try hydro but am really intimidated by changing everything over. i think I'm going to try those blumat ceramic cones at some point, from my experiences, soil that is dialed in grows like a mother fucker

After doing hours of research, I've chosen to only pursue hydroponics. I haven't decided yet how I want to control water temps, but I picked up some 10" net-pot lids for 5Gal buckets, and will figure out the rest once I finally get a place to grow. I'm really tempted to turn my DWC plans into an RDWC, but I like the idea of individual pots for each plant. I think of it more like a continuous science project, so treat each subject/sample as it's own and not risk "contaminating" the whole system. I can't say I know what I'm doing, so even in my most ideal setup, it would be a 6 & 6 setup. I'm starting small though, I want to start with 3-4 total, and work my way up to 6 & 6.

djwimbo said:

After doing hours of research, I've chosen to only pursue hydroponics. I haven't decided yet how I want to control water temps, but I picked up some 10" net-pot lids for 5Gal buckets, and will figure out the rest once I finally get a place to grow. I'm really tempted to turn my DWC plans into an RDWC, but I like the idea of individual pots for each plant. I think of it more like a continuous science project, so treat each subject/sample as it's own and not risk "contaminating" the whole system. I can't say I know what I'm doing, so even in my most ideal setup, it would be a 6 & 6 setup. I'm starting small though, I want to start with 3-4 total, and work my way up to 6 & 6.

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10" pots are a bit large IMO. I think you'd be a lot happier with a 6" pot, let alone all of the hydroton you would save yourself from picking through at the end. 6" net pots are big enough to grow just about any size indoor plant and the plants tend to want to fall over more when you have large pots full of hydroton. Just my 2 cents

Cory and trevor said:

bubble jugs was sweet to start. A dwc was cool too but the real one I use is soil based soilless mix with fox farms nutes. I like vacations and not having to trust somebody to help out so with that and the buffering I can't find a reason to change. I am reading the TLO and will try it but I don't see it beating this system for a while. of course what you know you're best at so it takes time with the TLO I bet. we'll see 1 try at a time.

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Is that TLO book from Rev?? I read alot of skunk mag and that guy would make love to TLO (and maybe does) if he could... no but the guy is a walking almanac on TLO... if ur lookin into it im sure his name has already popped up but if not check him out... The Rev

Motorbuds said:

10" pots are a bit large IMO. I think you'd be a lot happier with a 6" pot, let alone all of the hydroton you would save yourself from picking through at the end. 6" net pots are big enough to grow just about any size indoor plant and the plants tend to want to fall over more when you have large pots full of hydroton. Just my 2 cents

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I completely agree! I'll even take it a step further and say that 3-4" net pots will be as big as you will ever need.

we did a side by side with full buckets of hydroton vs 10" rings. continous recycling drip...full buckets out produced. hands down.

shaymuny said:

Is that TLO book from Rev?? I read alot of skunk mag and that guy would make love to TLO (and maybe does) if he could... no but the guy is a walking almanac on TLO... if ur lookin into it im sure his name has already popped up but if not check him out... The Rev

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the one and only

Motorbuds said:

10" pots are a bit large IMO. I think you'd be a lot happier with a 6" pot, let alone all of the hydroton you would save yourself from picking through at the end. 6" net pots are big enough to grow just about any size indoor plant and the plants tend to want to fall over more when you have large pots full of hydroton. Just my 2 cents

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I always appreciate constructive criticism.

The 10" pots are somewhat of an experiment. I have a local grower that, like every grower, some tricks he was willing to share. I want to do a few comparisons as well, and I have yet to start my own initial grow. Dude had recommended the 10", but I will be getting smaller ones as well (they're cheap anyways). I have been noticing that pretty much everybody else uses 3-6" nets. I give credit where it's due, but my local "mentor" is yielding 10-16oz per plant, on a good schedule. Some of you guys I've been following and have been very impressed by as well. I figured with the main stalk size getting as thick as the ones I've seen here(and in person), the larger net would give it more of a foot hold, and a bit more of a buffer. But that also means more area that I have to cover while the roots develop, so they don't get light.

HomeLessBeans said:

we did a side by side with full buckets of hydroton vs 10" rings. continous recycling drip...full buckets out produced. hands down.

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out produced by what factor? I'm not discrediting you, I'm honestly curious.

Does anyone believe it makes a difference to the plant whether its roots are dangling there like a pony tail or if they
are supported with a medium (Like hydroton, coco, dirt, rockwool, etc.)

I haven't thought about that aspect of it, till just now or I would have done it, cuz I like to see shit for myself.
Many of us know that supporting branches makes a huge difference.

Over and over people constantly refer to what is cheaper and easier. That is why I end up doing so many
experiments myself is because cheaper and easier usually is inferior to a little more work and a few more bucks.

I dont think so. NASA grew potatoes in space without hydroton. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/everydaylife/spacespuds.html

without hydroton and without gravity.

HomeLessBeans said:

we did a side by side with full buckets of hydroton vs 10" rings. continous recycling drip...full buckets out produced. hands down.

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Recycling drip and DWC are quite different, i was strictly referring to DWC. I've seen other people pull 20+ zips out of a 6" net pot in their journals here in Michigan and admit they could've done better. I don't know how much else you could look for indoors unless you have unlimited space.

Motorbuds said:

Recycling drip and DWC are quite different, i was strictly referring to DWC. I've seen other people pull 20+ zips out of a 6" net pot in their journals here in Michigan and admit they could've done better. I don't know how much else you could look for indoors unless you have unlimited space.

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ok...............

gladstoned said:

Does anyone believe it makes a difference to the plant whether its roots are dangling there like a pony tail or if they
are supported with a medium (Like hydroton, coco, dirt, rockwool, etc.)

I haven't thought about that aspect of it, till just now or I would have done it, cuz I like to see shit for myself.
Many of us know that supporting branches makes a huge difference.

Over and over people constantly refer to what is cheaper and easier. That is why I end up doing so many
experiments myself is because cheaper and easier usually is inferior to a little more work and a few more bucks.

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Cheap and easy isn't always good, at least that's my outlook.

Local guy runs nute-free soil in his net, and hydroton below the net(fills up the space in the bucket on top of two air stones). When he's done the root ball has grown to the point that it takes two people to separate the bucket from the net-lid. I like results, and he's a local guy that's willing to share ... information that is.

I don't think this is a dumb question, but if you start from a small chunk of rockwool(suspended in hydroton), does it just break apart once the plant grows beyond rooting? It seems like once the plant out grows it's small cube, it will just keep pushing roots beyond, and removing the clone/rooted plant from the rockwool would damage it, right?

HomeLessBeans said:

ok...............

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If you don't believe it all you have to do is look for yourself, they're public. One was like 24 oz from docs Iranian g13 and the other was like 23 oz from the grape champagne cut of his regular g13. Actually doc himself chimed in and said the OP could've done better. I don't really care to argue though, i don't care if you believe it or not.

Motorbuds said:

If you don't believe it all you have to do is look for yourself, they're public. One was like 24 oz from docs Iranian g13 and the other was like 23 oz from the grape champagne cut of his regular g13. Actually doc himself chimed in and said the OP could've done better. I don't really care to argue though, i don't care if you believe it or not.

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Again.... Ok.

Not sure what any of that had to do with my post. Which was the point you missed wantin to be all offended. In the first place. I give first hand info and you try to school me about the differences between DWC and drip. Lol

djwimbo said:

Cheap and easy isn't always good, at least that's my outlook.

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I've been drinking, but I am pretty sure that is what I said. If that isn't what I said, that's what I meant, and how I roll.



I was in a few hydro shops today, asked the guy at Northern Hydro in marquette what he thought. He said
he wasn't sure, but he thinks the larger one would take in more oxygen. Hmmm.